Gambling

[2p Prussia]

If gambling was legalised, then what would the government do about the death rates increasing?
You never know what kind of person your opponent is. Plus, it would be much worst when with alcohol.

[Terra Sector Union]

Probably so, but alcohol shouldn't have a place in society.

quadruple facepalm.

Goddammit dude you're a leftist you should be toking daily or whatever

Never thought of myself as a leftist but okay. That's how you interpret my views. I thought I was a right-wing moralist.

[Ifreann]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

[Katganistan]

Gambling is something I would like to be banned, but it isn't necessarily as bad as acoholism. I think a good way to regulate gambling (for the US) is to have 1 casino per state, and you have to have a license to gamble which will be hard to obtain. A citizen would have to go through psychological evaluation tests before obtaining one. Lottery ticket machines you see in stores should also require an ID before purchasing.

I think a citizen should also have to get a license to eat, because some don't do it in a healthful way. All citizens should be subjected to a barrage of psychological tests, made to watch cooking shows, and travel to the single supermarket in their state which only stocks raw foods: live animals, vegetables, and grains. They should have to process their own wheat for pasta and bread to make sure there's no preservatives in them, and slaughter their own meat.

[Katganistan]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

The only winner is the casino. Hence, why I don't gamble.

[Terra Sector Union]

Gambling is something I would like to be banned, but it isn't necessarily as bad as acoholism. I think a good way to regulate gambling (for the US) is to have 1 casino per state, and you have to have a license to gamble which will be hard to obtain. A citizen would have to go through psychological evaluation tests before obtaining one. Lottery ticket machines you see in stores should also require an ID before purchasing.

I think a citizen should also have to get a license to eat, because some don't do it in a healthful way. All citizens should be subjected to a barrage of psychological tests, made to watch cooking shows, and travel to the single supermarket in their state which only stocks raw foods: live animals, vegetables, and grains. They should have to process their own wheat for pasta and bread to make sure there's no preservatives in them, and slaughter their own meat.

You might as well mock how we have a license to drive an automobile. It's like needing a license to ride a bicycle or walk.

[Ifreann]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

The only winner is the casino. Hence, why I don't gamble.

In the long term. More specifically casinos have set things up such that their inevitable losses will tend to be mitigated and recouped.

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I think a citizen should also have to get a license to eat, because some don't do it in a healthful way. All citizens should be subjected to a barrage of psychological tests, made to watch cooking shows, and travel to the single supermarket in their state which only stocks raw foods: live animals, vegetables, and grains. They should have to process their own wheat for pasta and bread to make sure there's no preservatives in them, and slaughter their own meat.

You might as well mock how we have a license to drive an automobile. It's like needing a license to ride a bicycle or walk.

It's not, though.

[Lordieth]

The only winner is the casino. Hence, why I don't gamble.

In the long term. More specifically casinos have set things up such that their inevitable losses will tend to be mitigated and recouped.

Yes, the house will always have the edge. They wouldn't stay in business, otherwise. However, different games will have different odds, and so people think they can play the system and beat it. This is where you end up with Gamblers Fallacy (where you think that if you keep gambling, your odds of winning go up).

Or someone thinks they've stumbled on a sure fire way to beat the odds, which invariably just turns out to a variation on the Martingale strategy. Which has also become rather popular in binary stock trading now, too. Which is just gambling dressed up as something else.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

quadruple facepalm.

Goddammit dude you're a leftist you should be toking daily or whatever

Never thought of myself as a leftist but okay. That's how you interpret my views. I thought I was a right-wing moralist.

your name has terra and union in it

you flag is red with yellow

whatever nvm

[Terra Sector Union]

Never thought of myself as a leftist but okay. That's how you interpret my views. I thought I was a right-wing moralist.

your name has terra and union in it

you flag is red with yellow

whatever nvm

Well I'm no communist. But I support World Government and the unity of Man.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

I love this idea that BDSM is harmless. How do you pleasure without pain?

[Ifreann]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

I love this idea that BDSM is harmless. How do you pleasure without pain?

Well, you're maybe trying to make a joke, but no, BDSM isn't harmless. Obviously it depends what exactly you're doing, but whacking someone with a paddle and the like is harmful. But if those involved are consenting adults, and if they establish and adhere to sensible standards and rules about what they're doing, then any harm will be minimal. Similarly, losing money is obviously a bad thing for anyone, but if you're sensible about only gambling money you can afford to lose without going hungry or getting put out on the street or what have you, then any harm will be minimal.

[Tagmatium]

I think a citizen should also have to get a license to eat, because some don't do it in a healthful way. All citizens should be subjected to a barrage of psychological tests, made to watch cooking shows, and travel to the single supermarket in their state which only stocks raw foods: live animals, vegetables, and grains. They should have to process their own wheat for pasta and bread to make sure there's no preservatives in them, and slaughter their own meat.

You might as well mock how we have a license to drive an automobile. It's like needing a license to ride a bicycle or walk.

I'm actually quite in favour of some sort of license to ride a bicycle, primarily because I'm absolutely sick of the amount of times cyclists ignore road laws that apply to them.

A good proportion of cyclists - seemingly regardless of age, gender or ethnicity - seem to assume that they can basically pick and choose which parts of the law apply to them.

[Alexanda]

Personally, I do not really like gambling, but it should not been made illegal. People should be warned of the dangers, however, and be informed that asking for help to combat addictions is okay. As mentioned in previous posts, I have been to Monte Carlo, Las Vegas etc, etc, and find it quite silly that whole cities/places can be dedicated to gambling. An odd casino here and there would be okay, and perhaps a bar with some sort of gambling system, but one finds it quite awful when whole streets are dedicated to casinos. Remembering my trip to Las Vegas, children are often not allowed in the buildings, and even more so in Monte Carlo, which is a blessing.

However, I think it would be quite a good idea if, when bars have mini-casinos (if that is the correct name?), that they be kept separate from the main bar (as some are) so younger people are allowed at least to enjoy a drink with their parents without being banned simply because of a few blackjack tables.

[Manisdog]

Gambling is not a drug, you really don't get addicted to gambling

I've worked at 2 Native American casinos here in the US, and I can confidently say that statement is wrong. I've seen people show up day in, day out chasing that 1 big win. The problem is, they end up losing their rent/mortgage money in the process. I've watched people feed stacks of 100 dollar bills into a slot machine, and get upset when they don't win anywhere near as much as they put in. I've heard stories about people that have lost businesses because they can't stop going to the casinos.

I've also worked at convenience stores, and watched the same people spend tens, if not hundreds of dollars A DAY on instant scratch off tickets and tickets for drawings. There was one person that would come in regularly and buy an entire book of $20-$30 instant scratch off tickets (25 tickets of the $20 ones for a total of $500, and 20 tickets for the $30 ones for a total of $600). There was another woman (who worked at one of the casinos) that would buy several tickets, scratch them off in her car, come back in, buy more, tell me she was done for the night, and proceed to bother me several more times before she was ACTUALLY done for the night.

Altough most of my friends don't gamble in crores of rupees but what you said could be possibly happening, I would like to thank you for your insight.

[Dakini]

So long as the stock market exists, a ban on gambling is absurdly hypocritical. That said, the government really shouldn't be in the business of providing an outlet for gambling (lottery).

As much as I despise stock markets for trying to ruin the Hindu undivided families, I don't think stock markets are gambling, they are a legitimate way of earning money and pure luck does not come into the picture

Poker isn't pure luck either, but if you play it for money, it's still gambling.

Gambling should be legal and winnings should be taxed with at least some of the funds raised by taxes going into rehabilitation programs for gambling addiction. Even though gambling can be bad for some individuals who play beyond their means, the same can be said of just about anything and others are able to gamble responsibly.

[Manisdog]

As much as I despise stock markets for trying to ruin the Hindu undivided families, I don't think stock markets are gambling, they are a legitimate way of earning money and pure luck does not come into the picture

Poker isn't pure luck either, but if you play it for money, it's still gambling.

Gambling should be legal and winnings should be taxed with at least some of the funds raised by taxes going into rehabilitation programs for gambling addiction. Even though gambling can be bad for some individuals who play beyond their means, the same can be said of just about anything and others are able to gamble responsibly.

Well poker requires some skill but not the same amount of skill and technical knowledge like those who work in the stock market, similiary betting on horses requires some kind of knowledge but it is still gambling

[Dakini]

Poker isn't pure luck either, but if you play it for money, it's still gambling.

Gambling should be legal and winnings should be taxed with at least some of the funds raised by taxes going into rehabilitation programs for gambling addiction. Even though gambling can be bad for some individuals who play beyond their means, the same can be said of just about anything and others are able to gamble responsibly.

Well poker requires some skill but not the same amount of skill and technical knowledge like those who work in the stock market, similiary betting on horses requires some kind of knowledge but it is still gambling

I disagree, I think that doing well at poker actually requires more skill and practice than doing well on the stock market. Especially if one plays in person as opposed to online.

[Flipline]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

Me too LOL

[Reploid Productions]

Gambling should be legal and winnings should be taxed with at least some of the funds raised by taxes going into rehabilitation programs for gambling addiction. Even though gambling can be bad for some individuals who play beyond their means, the same can be said of just about anything and others are able to gamble responsibly.

Actually, winnings are already taxable income, at least in the US. It's basically another part of your income, they've got forms and stuff for it on your tax return. Hell, to a limited extent, provided you've got tons of bookkeeping on your gambling activities, some losses are even deductible.

Granted, from what I've seen/heard, odds are generally pretty good that the IRS isn't liable to care about unreported winnings below a certain amount. Like, say you win $200 on a weekend trip to Vegas, that's such small change that the IRS isn't likely to bother auditing over it. The guy that wins $20,000, on the other hand...

[Pope Joan]

It isn't exactly totally harmless, but regardless I don't see why it shouldn't be legalized.

Niagara Falls, ON used to be a lovely place, full of gardens, boutiques, inns, promenades, and now it is seedy and grim and you dare not walk abroad at night.

Witness the fruits of the coveted Casino.

Atlantic City, three blocks off the boardwalk, is filthy, decrepit, and a hive of scum and villainy.

This is what gambling does to a city.

It also ruins lives.

Let the Native Americans use it as a tool to punish the Europeans, and otherwise let's shun it.

[Maurepas]

Legalized gambling has done a lot of good stuff down here. It moved it out of the black market(though a proud tradition on the Coast, lol) and into the mainstream where it created jobs and tax revenue, and generally improved the lot of the cities down here.

I'd imagine that's probably the case with most legalization of vice/victimless crimes, like drugs and alcohol and whatnot.

[Scomagia]

Holy shit dude.

Some people can't control their drinking addiction. Best to have certified drunks than irresponsible ones then??

Probably so, but alcohol shouldn't have a place in society.

It's not like it has a fuckton of health benefits or anything.

[Maurepas]

I love this idea that gambling is harmless. How do you gamble without someone losing?

The only winner is the casino. Hence, why I don't gamble.

I'd say the idea that gambling is "harmless" is meant to convey that there is no victim or collateral damage or anything. It's just you as a consenting adult deciding to wager your own funds. From a legal perspective, even if one personally wouldn't gamble because the House always wins, it isn't anyone's place to get in the way of that with regard to someone who would.

[Scomagia]

The only winner is the casino. Hence, why I don't gamble.

I'd say the idea that gambling is "harmless" is meant to convey that there is no victim or collateral damage or anything. It's just you as a consenting adult deciding to wager your own funds. From a legal perspective, even if one personally wouldn't gamble because the House always wins, it isn't anyone's place to get in the way of that with regard to someone who would.

As a side note, "The House Always Wins" really only applies to certain games like slot machines and Roulette. Certain games have roughly even odds between player and house.