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Favorite intermediate cartridge?

5.56 NATO
129
44%
5.45
17
6%
7.62x39
63
22%
.30 Carbine
23
8%
.30-30 WCF
14
5%
Other
45
15%
 
Total votes : 291

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Hurtful Thoughts
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:58 pm

A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:01 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.

Ping is love, ping is life.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:43 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.

Ping is love, ping is life.

We must invent AR-15 that go ping.

Like a Mini-14, but an M1 with 20 rd en-blocks of .223.

*brief pause*

I wonder how many .223 would fit in a standard M1 En-block... No point re-inventing the ping.

A few moments later...

It'll hold ten rounds if you crimped it a bit. kinda like a .273 pederson that way.
Last edited by Hurtful Thoughts on Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:49 pm, edited 6 times in total.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
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The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Corporate Collective Salvation » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:30 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.

Yes.
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Postby The Chuck » Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:11 am

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.


What are we going up against? Depending on the ammo, the Garand for smacking through plate and the AR for knocking down 9 pins
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:23 am

The Chuck wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:A game of "would you rather?"

M1 garand with 480 rounds on en-blocs

OR

AR-15 with a single 40rd P-mag and some 800 rds on stripper-clips.


What are we going up against? Depending on the ammo, the Garand for smacking through plate and the AR for knocking down 9 pins

I was aiming more towards which'd be able to expend all their allotted ammo with the resources provided first.

Kinda seeing the value of en-blocks over a single detachable magazine.

Still would be neat if Ruger made a Mini-14 that went *ping*.

But, knowing Ruger, they'd probably ask like $20 per en-bloc and $3k for the rifle.
Last edited by Hurtful Thoughts on Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:43 am, edited 4 times in total.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:35 am

I feel like Glock is missing an opportunity by not making an en-bloc clip and calling it the en-Glock...
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:44 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:I feel like Glock is missing an opportunity by not making an en-bloc clip and calling it the en-Glock...

YD-9

Yeetus-deleatus, "the 9mm that goes ping"

sounds more like a Kel-Tec.
Last edited by Hurtful Thoughts on Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby The Chuck » Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:14 am

A guy in the Daewoo community is making 1:7/1:8 twist barrels in custom lengths. This will allow replacement of the old 1:12 most DR-200s have for modern ammo use so key hole city isn't happening with anything above 55 grain.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:30 pm

Welp, I can this as the next thing the jackboots are gonna try and ban.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:42 pm

So what's everybody's thoughts on running a red-dot in place of a front-post BUIS and a cheap ($100/salvaged [sighted to another upper]) LPVO optic behind it as a 1-4x magnifier?

I also have a 4x32 that lost its reticle due to recoil.
Last edited by Hurtful Thoughts on Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:55 pm, edited 5 times in total.
Factbook and general referance thread.
HOI <- Storefront (WiP)
Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:54 pm

Got to hold some pretty neat guns for my wedding anniversary. AKs are heavy. At least for me. But it was fun.
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Postby The Chuck » Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:39 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Got to hold some pretty neat guns for my wedding anniversary. AKs are heavy. At least for me. But it was fun.


There are kids in >insert third world country here, who can use AKs without a problem, no wonder they sit near you in the waiting lounge, Nana... ;) :p
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Postby Kernen » Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:47 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:So what's everybody's thoughts on running a red-dot in place of a front-post BUIS and a cheap ($100/salvaged [sighted to another upper]) LPVO optic behind it as a 1-4x magnifier?

I also have a 4x32 that lost its reticle due to recoil.


I think you'd have a heavier and shittier magnifier than if you got a magnifier.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:27 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Got to hold some pretty neat guns for my wedding anniversary. AKs are heavy. At least for me. But it was fun.


There are kids in >insert third world country here, who can use AKs without a problem, no wonder they sit near you in the waiting lounge, Nana... ;) :p


Listen you Missourian from heck… I know where you live and I will find you. :twisted:

You know, I do wish I could use them better because after a day at the range, I feel very relaxed. However, my trigger finger issue has affected not just my right hand’s fingers, but I’ve developed it on my left’s. It has caused weakness in them. ;_;

I think I’ll just need to concentrate on my S&W and small revolvers.
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Postby Juansonia » Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:19 pm

How stupid an idea is this?:

AR-15 upper, but with an AK-style Dovetail rail for optics.
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Postby Kernen » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:59 am

Juansonia wrote:How stupid an idea is this?:

AR-15 upper, but with an AK-style Dovetail rail for optics.


Profoundly.

There's a reason everybody adopted pic rail style mounts.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:46 pm

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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:27 am

Bought a new pistol over the weekend, a cz.52. $400 with 2 magazines, a holster, and a cleaning rod for the nice piece.

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Germanic Templars wrote:Bought a new pistol over the weekend, a cz.52. $400 with 2 magazines, a holster, and a cleaning rod for the nice piece.

Why anybody chooses to get something in Tokarev cartridges in this climate is beyond me.
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Postby Confederate States 0f America » Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:42 am

Kernen wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Bought a new pistol over the weekend, a cz.52. $400 with 2 magazines, a holster, and a cleaning rod for the nice piece.

Why anybody chooses to get something in Tokarev cartridges in this climate is beyond me.



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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:03 pm

Kernen wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:Bought a new pistol over the weekend, a cz.52. $400 with 2 magazines, a holster, and a cleaning rod for the nice piece.

Why anybody chooses to get something in Tokarev cartridges in this climate is beyond me.

Because my vz.58 was lonely and I wanted another Czech firearm.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:56 pm

Anyone here know of anything I can use to pull the trigger of a S&W EZ9 without much pain? My fingers hurt a lot due to trigger finger syndrome, but I do enjoy going to the range to target practice.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:58 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Anyone here know of anything I can use to pull the trigger of a S&W EZ9 without much pain? My fingers hurt a lot due to trigger finger syndrome, but I do enjoy going to the range to target practice.

Get you a firearm that has a lot of aftermarket options. You,
may be able to get a real light trigger pull with an upgraded trigger bar.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:58 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Kernen wrote:Why anybody chooses to get something in Tokarev cartridges in this climate is beyond me.

Because my vz.58 was lonely and I wanted another Czech firearm.
Confederate States 0f America wrote:
Kernen wrote:Why anybody chooses to get something in Tokarev cartridges in this climate is beyond me.



*Silently stores my CZ 52, PPSC clone, and my three different Tokarev variants in the back of my safe and hide them behind my makarovs.*


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