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Should your country require everyone who can receive a COVID-19 vaccine to actually receive it?

YES
159
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YES, BUT there should also be exceptions for philosophical and religious reasons
20
7%
NO, BUT EMPLOYERS SHOULD DO SO THEMSELVES
15
5%
NO, BUT people should be incentivised towards taking, and/or away from not taking, a COVID-19 vaccine (perhaps through lotteries, vaccine passports, etc.)
41
14%
NO
67
22%
 
Total votes : 302

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Postby Page » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:48 am

San Lumen wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scraps-public-viewing-of-olympics/a-57964417

Olympics to be held without any spectators in the stands.


Not unexpected. As long as they aren't making the athletes wear masks while they're competing.


Are they? I honestly don't know.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:50 am

Page wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scraps-public-viewing-of-olympics/a-57964417

Olympics to be held without any spectators in the stands.


Not unexpected. As long as they aren't making the athletes wear masks while they're competing.


Are they? I honestly don't know.


I haven't heard anything that they will. Seems like it would be a bit difficult and uncomfortable to do certain competitions such as swimming while having a mask on.

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Postby Torisakia » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:50 am

Page wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scraps-public-viewing-of-olympics/a-57964417

Olympics to be held without any spectators in the stands.


Not unexpected. As long as they aren't making the athletes wear masks while they're competing.


Are they? I honestly don't know.

Don't know how effective wearing a mask would be while playing water polo. Can the virus even spread through water? Was that the answer this whole time?
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Postby Fedel » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:17 pm

AsianBoss interview of native Japanese on their thoughts about whether or not they should hold the Olympics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ8Z_7Ul5Do
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:20 pm

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Galloism wrote:It'll pass. Just get some sleep and drink a bunch of water.

Yup, got a huge bottle of water by my side. ^^

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Thanks! Please take care of yourselves as well - vaxxed or not. :hug:

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I actually feel so much better now - it's pretty quick.

From a super hot fever, to actually being back to my hyperactive self. :3 The 2 tabs of Paracetamol definitely helped.
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I know it must be frustrating. Who would have thought a 20ish year old marine in peak condition would die from your visit?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:32 pm

Torisakia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://www.dw.com/en/covid-tokyo-scraps-public-viewing-of-olympics/a-57964417

Olympics to be held without any spectators in the stands.

Don't know why they're so hell-bent on holding the Olympics, especially with the situation in Japan not improving that much, from what I've been told.

Money?
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:33 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Torisakia wrote:Don't know why they're so hell-bent on holding the Olympics, especially with the situation in Japan not improving that much, from what I've been told.

Money?

canceling it would be financially devastating to Japan.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Money?

canceling it would be financially devastating to Japan.

So that's a yes.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Money?

canceling it would be financially devastating to Japan.


Not really. A large economy can afford to spaff £20-30 billion without any real impact.

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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:00 pm

Kowani wrote:US accused of preventing Venezuela from making payments to COVAX-which prevents them from getting vaccines

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez on Thursday accused the U.S.-backed international financial system of blocking the country's access to Covid-19 vaccines under the COVAX program, even though Venezuela has paid all but $10 million of the $120 million it owes. Appearing in a televised address, Rodríguez said Venezuela was unable to pay the remaining $10 million because it was being blocked from transferring funds to the Switzerland-based GAVI Vaccine Alliance, which directs COVAX.

"The financial system that also hides behind the U.S. lobby has the power to block resources that can be used to immunize the population of Venezuela," she said.

Venezuelan Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza tweeted a letter from COVAX stating that it "received notification from UBS Bank" that four payments, totaling just over $4.6 million, were "blocked and under investigation."

Arreaza said that "Venezuela has paid all of its commitments," adding that "the bank has arbitrarily blocked" the country's final payments and calling the situation "a crime."

The vice president and foreign minister's remarks follow accusations from Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro last week that "organizations of U.S. imperialism" are engaged in an effort to stop vaccine producers from selling doses to the country.

"Venezuela might be the only country in the world that is subject to a persecution against its right to freely purchase vaccines," said Maduro, according to Venezuelanalysis. "Venezuela is besieged so that it cannot buy vaccines."

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This thing with the Delta variant is concerning me. Especially it’s high transmissibility.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This thing with the Delta variant is concerning me. Especially it’s high transmissibility.


And it's disregard for the vaccination treaty.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:36 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This thing with the Delta variant is concerning me. Especially it’s high transmissibility.


And it's disregard for the vaccination treaty.


It used vanishing ink, the asshat.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:38 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
And it's disregard for the vaccination treaty.


It used vanishing ink, the asshat.


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It used vanishing ink, the asshat.


we fell for the oldest trick in the book


Shame on us. ;_;

I wonder if the booster shoot I’ve heard about is supposed to help with that or what.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:41 pm

Tanzania's covid denialism streak comes to an end

Tanzania has asked to join the COVAX global vaccine sharing facility and start its first coronavirus immunization campaign - more than 15 months after the start of the pandemic.

The new policy is a major departure from the policies of late president John Magufuli, who denied coronavirus existed in Tanzania and dismissed the vaccines as dangerous.

In a news conference Thursday, the World Health Organization’s (WHO) regional director in Africa, Matshidiso Moeti, said Tanzania is now formally working to join the COVAX facility. Speaking with the BBC, Tanzanian government spokesperson Gerson Msigwa neither denied nor confirmed the information but added the government will release an official statement on vaccines at the appropriate time. Rights activists Tito Magoti said this is a good first step towards fighting the pandemic.

He says, it is a move that some of us Tanzanians we were demanding. We are now getting a chance to have peace of mind, because we have been given choices that we were not able to get due to the denial of the government on the issue he says.

Tito added it is high time now for the government to intensify the issue of coronavirus because there has not been transparency on the issue of updates and measures. It is difficult to gauge the clear extent of coronavirus in Tanzania as the country stopped reporting data in April 2020, after it had recorded 509 COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths.

But overcoming the late president’s claims that the virus did not exist in Tanzania, and that vaccines were ineffective, is still a challenge. Some citizens like Ummy Matinde are worried about the efficacy of the vaccines.

She says during the leadership of the late John Magufuli, he didn’t allow the vaccines because he said they had negative outcomes into the human body. Under the leadership of Samia Hassan, she says, they are allowing it but they didn’t give out proof that show whether the vaccines are good or not. While Tanzania awaits the vaccines, minister of Health Doroth Gwajima has insisted people take all necessary precautions against COVID-19 including wearing face masks.

You find people in a crowd and they don’t wear face masks, she says. I didn’t tell you to wear face masks when you are going on your farm or when you are in an area with good circulating air. She says there are areas that have limited air and a crowd, and there, people must wear facemasks.

Finance minister Mwigulu Nchemba says the government has entered talks with the International Monetary Fund for a $571 million loan to address the economic and social impact of COVID-19.

He says, President Samia Suluhu met Kristalina Georgieva, executive director of the International Monetary Fund, with a view to strengthening relations on economic and social issues including the issue of strategies to address the impact of COVID-19 he says.

But according to the IMF, for the loan to be approved, Tanzania needs to publish updated statistics on prevalence of COVID-19.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:46 pm

https://globalnews.ca/news/7961802/jaso ... g-stage-3/

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Postby -SARS- » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:49 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This thing with the Delta variant is concerning me. Especially it’s high transmissibility.


And it's disregard for the vaccination treaty.


What's a treaty? :blink:
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Postby Tarsonis » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:01 pm

-SARS- wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
And it's disregard for the vaccination treaty.


What's a treaty? :blink:


Don't worry about it. We didn't care about you and never made you sign one.
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Tarsonis wrote:
-SARS- wrote:
What's a treaty? :blink:


Don't worry about it. We didn't care about you and never made you sign one.


OK, but I don't think any of us coronaviruses know what a treaty is.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
we fell for the oldest trick in the book


Shame on us. ;_;

I wonder if the booster shoot I’ve heard about is supposed to help with that or what.

They will have to change it up to account for this variant, and then hope there are no worse ones before it hits the streets.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:15 pm

Kowani wrote:Tanzania's covid denialism streak comes to an end

Tanzania has asked to join the COVAX global vaccine sharing facility and start its first coronavirus immunization campaign - more than 15 months after the start of the pandemic.

The new policy is a major departure from the policies of late president John Magufuli, who denied coronavirus existed in Tanzania and dismissed the vaccines as dangerous.

In a news conference Thursday, the World Health Organization’s (WHO) regional director in Africa, Matshidiso Moeti, said Tanzania is now formally working to join the COVAX facility. Speaking with the BBC, Tanzanian government spokesperson Gerson Msigwa neither denied nor confirmed the information but added the government will release an official statement on vaccines at the appropriate time. Rights activists Tito Magoti said this is a good first step towards fighting the pandemic.

He says, it is a move that some of us Tanzanians we were demanding. We are now getting a chance to have peace of mind, because we have been given choices that we were not able to get due to the denial of the government on the issue he says.

Tito added it is high time now for the government to intensify the issue of coronavirus because there has not been transparency on the issue of updates and measures. It is difficult to gauge the clear extent of coronavirus in Tanzania as the country stopped reporting data in April 2020, after it had recorded 509 COVID-19 cases and 16 deaths.

But overcoming the late president’s claims that the virus did not exist in Tanzania, and that vaccines were ineffective, is still a challenge. Some citizens like Ummy Matinde are worried about the efficacy of the vaccines.

She says during the leadership of the late John Magufuli, he didn’t allow the vaccines because he said they had negative outcomes into the human body. Under the leadership of Samia Hassan, she says, they are allowing it but they didn’t give out proof that show whether the vaccines are good or not. While Tanzania awaits the vaccines, minister of Health Doroth Gwajima has insisted people take all necessary precautions against COVID-19 including wearing face masks.

You find people in a crowd and they don’t wear face masks, she says. I didn’t tell you to wear face masks when you are going on your farm or when you are in an area with good circulating air. She says there are areas that have limited air and a crowd, and there, people must wear facemasks.

Finance minister Mwigulu Nchemba says the government has entered talks with the International Monetary Fund for a $571 million loan to address the economic and social impact of COVID-19.

He says, President Samia Suluhu met Kristalina Georgieva, executive director of the International Monetary Fund, with a view to strengthening relations on economic and social issues including the issue of strategies to address the impact of COVID-19 he says.

But according to the IMF, for the loan to be approved, Tanzania needs to publish updated statistics on prevalence of COVID-19.

Friend of mine was living in Tanzania at the start of the pandemic. She was telling me that the hospitals there, the good private hospitals that the white foreigners working there go to, weren't giving out positive covid test results. They would either give you a negative result, or no result, so as to maintain the illusion that there was no war in Ba Sing Se 'rona in Tanzania.
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