2020 US General Election Thread IX: One Month and Counting

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Radio covers more than one district. Near borders it covers more than one state. If there's Republican radio advertising influencing districts (and border areas) then some Democrats ads to balance them will make a difference.

The way you keep advocating for the Democrats to do the worst thing politically makes it plain to me you want them to lose.

Alternatively you just don't understand American politics very well.

Yesterday you called me a fool for having an opinion. But at least you provided a rebuttal.

Today it's just an insult with nothing else attached.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Alternatively you just don't understand American politics very well.

Yesterday you called me a fool for having an opinion. But at least you provided a rebuttal.

Today it's just an insult with nothing else attached.

It's only an insult if you take it as such.

Going after rural populations is a losing battle for the Dems, it's not gonna make any noteworthy inroads. They're much better off targeting workers in things like the auto industry in the Rust Belt and continually trying to nail Trump on healthcare to lock down the suburban vote.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Trump was doing good on economy before corona but is divisive and has no credibility, Biden would be good for less violence and division with liberal social economy and climate change

I see you are a new fellow nation, welcome to NS. oops, you have a population of 999 million and only 2 posts, my bad lol.

For which he is not responsible for the virus crisis, the virus that kills persons is responsible for the virus crisis. But the Leftist Liberal Democrats and anti Trump Persons on NS, Biden and the Democrats love to blame on Trump.

Trump wasn't even doing that good on the economy. The economic stimulus that was supposed to come from tax cuts, was weak, and the main effect was that corporations had so much money they couldn't find anything better to do with it than to buy back their own stock (this is absolutely a bad thing, as it strengthens the control of CEO's and boards at the expense of all small shareholders).

In your list of great Republican policies earlier, you had three kinds of tax cuts (including capital gains!) and increased spending. Isn't that what Republicans used to HATE about Democrats: bigger and bigger deficits?

[Greater Miami Shores]

Or get better margins than Clinton perhaps even win a few rural counties. It could be very helpful in state legislatures.

Beating Clinton shouldn't be hard

But yes, doing a little better in a deep-red county could make the difference in a State or Federal District.

It could even make a difference in the Presidential result: deep-colored county/district in a swing state.

7-2 is better than 6-3.

Doubly so given that Robert's is about as reliable as the busted old pickup I drove in high school.

Why have justices at all, if exercising their judgement isn't desirable to you?

The nation currently has an official 4 to 4 even political divide ratio of Conservative Republican and Leftist Liberal Democrat US Supreme Court Justices, this does not work, the justices need a tie breaker vote, on most issues not all issues, but the court cant work with a 4 to 4 even political balance. A good logical reason for President Trump to do so.

The court worked with a 4/4 balance in 2016 ... for a year. Now it would only have to do so for 3-4 months.

Also "conservative Justices and liberal Justices" is how they're referred to, unless you're blatantly politicizing justices who have sat on the court for years. If you're going to say "Democrat Justices" then you should also say "Republican Justices."

I have an email address that I use for things that I know are gonna send tons of messages.
I’m still not sure how Biden got it, because unlike Bernie, I didn’t sign up for that shit

Did you ever make a donation? You might have missed an opt-out.

bleh bleh bleh

They should stop that.

Opt-in is OK, providing it's easy to see. Perhaps they also roll over the 2016 or 2018 email list ... they probably shouldn't.

Yes. And end police immunity too. Barrett is against qualified immunity

That would be the first good thing I've heard about Barrett. A source would be nice.

Those two things together (the Mob having machine guns, and ending QI) would get police well off-side. Barrett would be a risky pick.

He doesn't even need the votes. If he continues to stall the House spending bill until next week, it can be done as a recess appointment while the government's shut down.

I don't think a recess appointment would solve anything. It still has to be confirmed sometime doesn't it?

Except that the republicans have a built in advantage in the senate because red states are smaller than blue states. Creating a climate where "fuck you, we have 51 votes" is the rule is much better for them in the long term than for dems.
This is also why I don't take democrats talking about court packing or abolishing the filibuster seriously- it works for them as a measure to restrain republicans much more than it works for republicans.

Court appointments are only one of the Senate's roles. They also pass legislation, in agreement with the house.

Since the election of Reagan (the line of 'modernity' which most suits Republicans), Democrats have controlled the Senate for 15 terms, while Republicans have controlled it for 11 terms.

Seems the "small state advantage" is not a silver bullet.

Hmmm? So if you have a young President who makes decisions which are stupid down the line; what are you going to do about it?

That ex-President will be doing fine with board appointments and paid speaking engagements. That's if the Presidential pension is not enough for 'em.

Shit with the way medicine is going she could be there for 40+. RBG was 87 after all.

And Scalia was 79. Average life expectancy.

I usually say Conservative Republican Justices and Leftist Liberal Democrat Justices.

I think I saw an article on Yahoo, saying we have a 5 to 3 Conservative Republican to Leftist Liberal Democrat balance, I was going to post something about the article, but I have lost the article, but that 5 to 3 math doesn't make sense to me.

The 3 most conservative Justices including Amy Coney Barrett would be, Thomas, Barrett and Kavanaugh.

Gorsuch and Roberts would be like swing votes in a 5 to 4 balance.

Who are the 4 leftist Liberal Democrat Justices if this math is correct?

[Washington Resistance Army]

The 3 most conservative Justices including Amy Coney Barrett would be, Thomas, Barrett and Kavanaugh.

Not even. Alito is a lot more conservative than Kavanaugh.

[Shrillland]

I see you are a new fellow nation, welcome to NS. oops, you have a population of 999 million and only 2 posts, my bad lol.

For which he is not responsible for the virus crisis, the virus that kills persons is responsible for the virus crisis. But the Leftist Liberal Democrats and anti Trump Persons on NS, Biden and the Democrats love to blame on Trump.

Trump wasn't even doing that good on the economy. The economic stimulus that was supposed to come from tax cuts, was weak, and the main effect was that corporations had so much money they couldn't find anything better to do with it than to buy back their own stock (this is absolutely a bad thing, as it strengthens the control of CEO's and boards at the expense of all small shareholders).

In your list of great Republican policies earlier, you had three kinds of tax cuts (including capital gains!) and increased spending. Isn't that what Republicans used to HATE about Democrats: bigger and bigger deficits?

Aye, but Republicans still believe in Supply-Side Economics despite being a concept as dead as the magic amulet industry. They honestly believe that cutting taxes can ultimately lead to increased revenue because people will spend more money and prop up more businesses leading to more taxpayers as more people are hired.

[San Lumen]

Yesterday you called me a fool for having an opinion. But at least you provided a rebuttal.

Today it's just an insult with nothing else attached.

It's only an insult if you take it as such.

Going after rural populations is a losing battle for the Dems, it's not gonna make any noteworthy inroads. They're much better off targeting workers in things like the auto industry in the Rust Belt and continually trying to nail Trump on healthcare to lock down the suburban vote.

Why not? No area should be written off. If you ignore an area why should they vote for you. Republicans like to whine about urban areas and how bad they are but do they make any effort to win there? The answer is no.

[Shrillland]

It's only an insult if you take it as such.

Going after rural populations is a losing battle for the Dems, it's not gonna make any noteworthy inroads. They're much better off targeting workers in things like the auto industry in the Rust Belt and continually trying to nail Trump on healthcare to lock down the suburban vote.

Why not? No area should be written off. If you ignore an area why should they vote for you. Republicans like to whine about urban areas and how bad they are but do they make any effort to win there? The answer is no.

They don't need to, however. They've already got a lot of the old guard labourite Democrats voting for him after they lost faith in the Democratic Party.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's only an insult if you take it as such.

Going after rural populations is a losing battle for the Dems, it's not gonna make any noteworthy inroads. They're much better off targeting workers in things like the auto industry in the Rust Belt and continually trying to nail Trump on healthcare to lock down the suburban vote.

Why not? No area should be written off. If you ignore an area why should they vote for you. Republicans like to whine about urban areas and how bad they are but do they make any effort to win there? The answer is no.

Because deeply rural areas are never going to break for Biden over Trump because of culture war issues. He'd had to do a full 180 pivot and go against tons of Democratic policy to win those areas. It's wasted money, which isn't exactly the worst thing cuz they have more than Trump, but it's still a mistake.

[Bombadil]

Trump wasn't even doing that good on the economy. The economic stimulus that was supposed to come from tax cuts, was weak, and the main effect was that corporations had so much money they couldn't find anything better to do with it than to buy back their own stock (this is absolutely a bad thing, as it strengthens the control of CEO's and boards at the expense of all small shareholders).

In your list of great Republican policies earlier, you had three kinds of tax cuts (including capital gains!) and increased spending. Isn't that what Republicans used to HATE about Democrats: bigger and bigger deficits?

Aye, but Republicans still believe in Supply-Side Economics despite being a concept as dead as the magic amulet industry. They honestly believe that cutting taxes can ultimately lead to increased revenue because people will spend more money and prop up more businesses leading to more taxpayers as more people are hired.

No they don't, they believe it will help their major donors and it does, the tax cuts were for the rich. Studies show that in the US donors drive the agenda not the electorate. Campaign financing reform would fix so much in US politics. It can take up to a third of a Congressperson's time simply begging people for money.

[Shrillland]

Aye, but Republicans still believe in Supply-Side Economics despite being a concept as dead as the magic amulet industry. They honestly believe that cutting taxes can ultimately lead to increased revenue because people will spend more money and prop up more businesses leading to more taxpayers as more people are hired.

No they don't, they believe it will help their major donors and it does, the tax cuts were for the rich. Studies show that in the US donors drive the agenda not the electorate. Campaign financing reform would fix so much in US politics. It can take up to a third of a Congressperson's time simply begging people for money.

We tried it. Got struck down. Good luck getting an amendment passed when only one side sees a problem.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Aye, but Republicans still believe in Supply-Side Economics despite being a concept as dead as the magic amulet industry. They honestly believe that cutting taxes can ultimately lead to increased revenue because people will spend more money and prop up more businesses leading to more taxpayers as more people are hired.

No they don't, they believe it will help their major donors and it does, the tax cuts were for the rich. Studies show that in the US donors drive the agenda not the electorate. Campaign financing reform would fix so much in US politics. It can take up to a third of a Congressperson's time simply begging people for money.

Real campaign finance reform isn't possible without an amendment. It's one of those things that'll sadly never happen.

[San Lumen]

Why not? No area should be written off. If you ignore an area why should they vote for you. Republicans like to whine about urban areas and how bad they are but do they make any effort to win there? The answer is no.

Because deeply rural areas are never going to break for Biden over Trump because of culture war issues. He'd had to do a full 180 pivot and go against tons of Democratic policy to win those areas. It's wasted money, which isn't exactly the worst thing cuz they have more than Trump, but it's still a mistake.

It can't hurt to lower the margins a bit. Democrats made some gains in rural areas in 2018 why not try and build on that a little?

What are Republicans going to do if the suburban trend is a long term thing and their rural base can't carry them to victory anymore in Texas or Georgia? It already happened in Virginia.

[New haven america]

Alternatively you just don't understand American politics very well.

Yesterday you called me a fool for having an opinion. But at least you provided a rebuttal.

Today it's just an insult with nothing else attached.

Welcome to the WRA experience.

[Cisairse]

I got an email from Biden recently with a subject line that simply read "please" — including the lowercase "p." I thought that was almost funny but really unprofessional.

Directly from him?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because deeply rural areas are never going to break for Biden over Trump because of culture war issues. He'd had to do a full 180 pivot and go against tons of Democratic policy to win those areas. It's wasted money, which isn't exactly the worst thing cuz they have more than Trump, but it's still a mistake.

It can't hurt to lower the margins a bit. Democrats made some gains in rural areas in 2018 why not try and build on that a little?

What are Republicans going to do if the suburban trend is a long term thing and their rural base can't carry them to victory anymore in Texas or Georgia? It already happened in Virginia.

Virginia was caused by people moving into NoVa from DC. It's not indicative of nationwide trends for rather obvious reasons.

[San Lumen]

My email is flooded with Pro-Biden shit and I’ve been getting calls from different democrat organizations to donate

My email is full of pro-Biden and pro-Trump shit. I keep answering their surveys telling them I'm not voting for either of them.

enjoy the end of Democracy.

[San Lumen]

It can't hurt to lower the margins a bit. Democrats made some gains in rural areas in 2018 why not try and build on that a little?

What are Republicans going to do if the suburban trend is a long term thing and their rural base can't carry them to victory anymore in Texas or Georgia? It already happened in Virginia.

Virginia was caused by people moving into NoVa from DC. It's not indicative of nationwide trends for rather obvious reasons.

You have a source for that claim?

[Cisairse]

My email is full of pro-Biden and pro-Trump shit. I keep answering their surveys telling them I'm not voting for either of them.

enjoy the end of Democracy.

sounds like he is

[Shrillland]

My email is full of pro-Biden and pro-Trump shit. I keep answering their surveys telling them I'm not voting for either of them.

enjoy the end of Democracy.

Lumen, there's no crime in voting one's conscience.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Yesterday you called me a fool for having an opinion. But at least you provided a rebuttal.

Today it's just an insult with nothing else attached.

It's only an insult if you take it as such.

Being called a fool is an insult to anyone. Being told I don't know much about the subject I am currently arguing about, would be an insult too.

Hinting I should "not to take it as such" is just you claiming it's true. That would be 3 insults.

Going after rural populations is a losing battle for the Dems, it's not gonna make any noteworthy inroads. They're much better off targeting workers in things like the auto industry in the Rust Belt and continually trying to nail Trump on healthcare to lock down the suburban vote.

I'm not replying to that.
Letting you get away with calling me a fool was a mistake.
Any post of yours which begins with another insult will be ignored, or reported if that's justified.

[Geneviev]

My email is full of pro-Biden and pro-Trump shit. I keep answering their surveys telling them I'm not voting for either of them.

enjoy the end of Democracy.

It's not the end yet. If it comes to that point, people will stop it from happening.

[New haven america]

enjoy the end of Democracy.

sounds like he is

Don't you see, it's all part of the plan.

The country will devolve into nothing but civil war and strife only to be saved by the dream team, the ones and only, Bernie Sanders and Howie Hawkins.

I had a funnier joke in place but IDK if the mods would count that as political nicknaming or not.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Also, meant to post this earlier but forgot, Grassley was one of the last potential names being floated as someone who could break ranks over the SCOTUS issue but he's also joined the ranks of pushing it through.

[Cisairse]

sounds like he is

Don't you see, it's all part of the plan.

The country will devolve into nothing but civil war and strife only to be saved by the dream team, the ones and only, Bernie Sanders and Howie Hawkins.

I had a funnier joke in place but IDK if the mods would count that as political nicknaming or not.

Not sure if someone who thinks the federal government should confiscate all private firearms would be any use in a civil war