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Who wins the AL-2 GOP Runoff on July 17th?

Rep. Martha Roby
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Bobby Bright
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Total votes : 38

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Postby Valgora » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:06 am

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Valgora wrote:And that doesn't change the fact that Democrats ignore rural areas.
But you're fine with ignoring them and their concerns because you are a partisan hack and only give a shit about the Democrats winning.


I would say that the GOP has a stronghold on rural areas and they will so for quite sometime. This is due to Trump giving them mental masterbation by telling them he is going to make America like 1950 again, and bring back the coal mines/steel mills/auto plants. Plus, the Democratic Party is moving further left on social issues, mainly on guns, which will cost them even more rural support.


The Democrats could certainly take some rural areas.
But they have to do a few things in order to do so. Which includes stop ignoring rural areas and actually helping the working class.

But the biggest thing they could do is to drop gun control. According to something Telconi said, that would really help the Democrats to gain some or even a large amount of working class votes.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:16 am

Valgora wrote:But the biggest thing they could do is to drop gun control. According to something Telconi said, that would really help the Democrats to gain some or even a large amount of working class votes.

Dropping gun control and emphasizing their solutions to poverty and unemployment would benefit them a lot in rural areas, though they might still have a tough time wresting votes away from conservatives. It's definitely not impossible. Carter wasn't a conservative by any means and managed to do well in rural areas when he was elected. Being a farmer and understanding rural issues certainly didn't hurt.

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:25 am

Valgora wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
I would say that the GOP has a stronghold on rural areas and they will so for quite sometime. This is due to Trump giving them mental masterbation by telling them he is going to make America like 1950 again, and bring back the coal mines/steel mills/auto plants. Plus, the Democratic Party is moving further left on social issues, mainly on guns, which will cost them even more rural support.


The Democrats could certainly take some rural areas.
But they have to do a few things in order to do so. Which includes stop ignoring rural areas and actually helping the working class.

But the biggest thing they could do is to drop gun control. According to something Telconi said, that would really help the Democrats to gain some or even a large amount of working class votes.


There's a decent amount of voters that vote solely on the basis of guns so, it could help them although, with how the party is trending, that seems unlikely. They rely heavily on urban areas, which tend to be "liberal". If Republicans made an attempt to attract urban voters, I think then you would see Democrats aim for rural areas.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:33 am

Zurkerx wrote:There's a decent amount of voters that vote solely on the basis of guns so, it could help them although, with how the party is trending, that seems unlikely. They rely heavily on urban areas, which tend to be "liberal". If Republicans made an attempt to attract urban voters, I think then you would see Democrats aim for rural areas.

I'd like to see both parties vying for voters in the other's bastions. It'd make election season a touch more interesting. Not to mention that whoever won would better represent a cross-section of the total American electorate. I've been wanting Republicans to discuss institutions within minority communities for a long time for example. Lots of votes to be had.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:34 am

Fahran wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:There's a decent amount of voters that vote solely on the basis of guns so, it could help them although, with how the party is trending, that seems unlikely. They rely heavily on urban areas, which tend to be "liberal". If Republicans made an attempt to attract urban voters, I think then you would see Democrats aim for rural areas.

I'd like to see both parties vying for voters in the other's bastions. It'd make election season a touch more interesting. Not to mention that whoever won would better represent a cross-section of the total American electorate. I've been wanting Republicans to discuss institutions within minority communities for a long time for example. Lots of votes to be had.


It would be interesting to witness, certainly. But that would be gambling too much of their donors' money for an uncertain return on their investment.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:37 am

Shrillland wrote:It would be interesting to witness, certainly. But that would be gambling too much of their donors' money for an uncertain return on their investment.

You're probably right. It would take a candidate with Trump-like or Sanders-like appeal to accomplish something like that. It's not impossible. I just don't see it happening given present leadership.

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Postby Zurkerx » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:53 am

Fahran wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:There's a decent amount of voters that vote solely on the basis of guns so, it could help them although, with how the party is trending, that seems unlikely. They rely heavily on urban areas, which tend to be "liberal". If Republicans made an attempt to attract urban voters, I think then you would see Democrats aim for rural areas.

I'd like to see both parties vying for voters in the other's bastions. It'd make election season a touch more interesting. Not to mention that whoever won would better represent a cross-section of the total American electorate. I've been wanting Republicans to discuss institutions within minority communities for a long time for example. Lots of votes to be had.


I do agree, however, with how the electoral college works (which I think is a reason why they don't lecture to these groups) and their opposition to changing their platforms significantly without getting tear apart by their base, that it'll take people believing in actual change to accomplish that. We both seen Trump and Sanders do it but, it's going to take more and ideally, with ideals that fit my crusade :p
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Postby Thuzbekistan » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:54 am

Fahran wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:There's a decent amount of voters that vote solely on the basis of guns so, it could help them although, with how the party is trending, that seems unlikely. They rely heavily on urban areas, which tend to be "liberal". If Republicans made an attempt to attract urban voters, I think then you would see Democrats aim for rural areas.

I'd like to see both parties vying for voters in the other's bastions. It'd make election season a touch more interesting. Not to mention that whoever won would better represent a cross-section of the total American electorate. I've been wanting Republicans to discuss institutions within minority communities for a long time for example. Lots of votes to be had.

They do that in tennessee.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:09 pm

Thuzbekistan wrote:They do that in tennessee.

Now if only they had decent country music. :p

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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:00 pm

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Thuzbekistan wrote:They do that in tennessee.

Now if only they had decent country music. :p


That's an oxymoron, though.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:08 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Fahran wrote:Now if only they had decent country music. :p


That's an oxymoron, though.


Well, I actually do listen to some of the older stuff on occasion, but for most modern country I must agree.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:19 pm

Shrillland wrote:Well, I actually do listen to some of the older stuff on occasion, but for most modern country I must agree.

Red Dirt country often recalls the sound and themes of older country music. That was kinda the point of my joke.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:21 pm

Fahran wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Well, I actually do listen to some of the older stuff on occasion, but for most modern country I must agree.

Red Dirt country often recalls the sound and themes of older country music. That was kinda the point of my joke.


You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Fahran wrote:Red Dirt country often recalls the sound and themes of older country music. That was kinda the point of my joke.


You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOYZaiDZ7BM

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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

Actually, yes. And songs that don't mention pickup trucks and Bud Lite.

Anyhow, back to elections. I'm too easily distracted for this. Should we expect cringe-worthy and misunderstood election songs akin to Born in the USA this cycle? Or will our ears be spared?

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Postby Jerzylvania » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:27 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Fahran wrote:Red Dirt country often recalls the sound and themes of older country music. That was kinda the point of my joke.


You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

They're all about being such sorry ass victims. Matches their politics.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:28 pm

Fahran wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

Actually, yes. And songs that don't mention pickup trucks and Bud Lite.

Anyhow, back to elections. I'm too easily distracted for this. Should we expect cringe-worthy and misunderstood election songs akin to Born in the USA this cycle? Or will our ears be spared?


Nope. Let me give you an early start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UsGEyz_2rE
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

They're all about being such sorry ass victims. Matches their politics.


Their stance on rape is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OljUFBypUgk

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Had a drink about a hour ago
Sitting in a corner by herself, in a bar in downtown hell
She heard a noise and she looked through the door
And saw a man she'd never seen before
Light skin, light blue eyes, a double-chin and a plastic smile
Well, her heart raced as he walked in the door
And took an empty seat next to her at the bar
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How'd ya like to go for a ride?"
And she said "Wait a minute I have to think"
He said, "That's fine. May I please buy you a drink"
One drink turned into three or four and they left and got into his car
And they drove away someplace real far
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And she said "if we could only please be on our way, I will not run"
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If it wasn't for date rape I'd never get laid
He finished up and he started the car
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She picked up a rock, threw it at the car, hit him in the head, now he's got a big scar
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The next day she went to her drawer, look up her local attorney at law
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The judge knew that he was full of shit and he gave him twenty five years
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One night in jail it was getting late
He was butt-raped by a large inmate, and he screamed
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That's when things got out of control
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But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
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Even though he now takes it in the behind
But that's the way it had to be
They locked him up and threw away the key
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Even though he now takes it in the behind
Date rape!
She didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to, she didn't want to
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:They're all about being such sorry ass victims. Matches their politics.

You must be fun at parties. :roll:

There's so much salt in this comment that I could probably reestablish the Mali Empire.

Shofercia wrote:Nope. Let me give you an early start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UsGEyz_2rE

My name is Fahran, and I support this message. Still, we're getting off-topic a little bit. I was just trying to steer us back to the elections.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:29 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Fahran wrote:Red Dirt country often recalls the sound and themes of older country music. That was kinda the point of my joke.


You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

If you’ve been listening to country music written before 2015, yes. Admittedly much of modern country is trash, but older country is quality.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:33 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

They're all about being such sorry ass victims. Matches their politics.

Fun fact: despite having sung at Trump’s inauguration, Toby Keith is a Democrat.

Probably just did it because a.) he does love his country, unlike Trump, and b.) nobody else was doing it, except 3 Doors Down, I think.

Garth Brooks is also a Democrat, I think. Cheryl Wright and Tim McGraw as well.

So they’re not a monolith.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

Actually, yes. And songs that don't mention pickup trucks and Bud Lite.

Anyhow, back to elections. I'm too easily distracted for this. Should we expect cringe-worthy and misunderstood election songs akin to Born in the USA this cycle? Or will our ears be spared?

Should have elected Rubio so we could get a president who walks-up with Tupac in the background. :lol2:
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:36 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You mean there are songs without your dog dying or your woman leaving?

If you’ve been listening to country music written before 2015, yes. Admittedly much of modern country is trash, but older country is quality.


>Modern country

You mean hick pop?
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Postby Freezic Vast » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:38 pm

As much as I would love to debate on the quality or lack thereof in modern country music today and the artists in it, it is not the topic of this, nearly completed thread.
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Postby Shofercia » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:41 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Fahran wrote:Actually, yes. And songs that don't mention pickup trucks and Bud Lite.

Anyhow, back to elections. I'm too easily distracted for this. Should we expect cringe-worthy and misunderstood election songs akin to Born in the USA this cycle? Or will our ears be spared?

Should have elected Rubio so we could get a president who walks-up with Tupac in the background. :lol2:


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