US Midterm Election 2018 Megathread- It's Kavanaugh

[San Lumen]

Yet they are not. And those trade polices will hurt rural voters. My aunt and uncle up in rural New York said they will probably not vote Republican in November as the tariffs are harming farms in their small town.

Yet, Trump’s talk of economic nationalism and protectionism brought rural voters to the polls on mass. Democrats need lefties to show up this election, even those skeptical Bernie supporters that did not vote, voted for Jill Stein or even voted for Trump as a protest vote.

and if you look at state legislative special elections they have lost almost every one held in urban or suburban area. And Virginia and New Jersey could be a precursor of whats to come as they mirror the country demographically quite well.

And if you look nationwide in the off year election Republicans were throughly rejected. In the two states with statewide elections Democrats came out in high numbers whereas Republicans did not.

That being said being still have to vote if there is to be a blue wave.

[Purpelia]

Is it just me or is your entire system designed so that the government can't do anything because it's constantly in an election cycle?

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Is it just me or is your entire system designed so that the government can't do anything because it's constantly in an election cycle?

Making term limits longer or having a longer period between elections is a horrible idea. In fact, we should institute term limits of the House and the Senate. Prolonged time in political office breeds corruption.

[San Lumen]

Is it just me or is your entire system designed so that the government can't do anything because it's constantly in an election cycle?

Making term limits longer or having a longer period between elections is a horrible idea. In fact, we should institute term limits of the House and the Senate. Prolonged time in political office breeds corruption.

We have term limits they are called elections

[Purpelia]

Is it just me or is your entire system designed so that the government can't do anything because it's constantly in an election cycle?

Making term limits longer or having a longer period between elections is a horrible idea. In fact, we should institute term limits of the House and the Senate. Prolonged time in political office breeds corruption.

I was thinking of something more along the lines of holding all the elections at once so that the government can actually run instead of constantly having one branch or the other on the campaign trail.

[Shrillland]

All that's needed to prevent school shootings are everyone in school packing an arsenal.

Yes lets make gun ownership compulsory or anyone to own whatever guns they want. That will cut down on shootings.

Well....actually...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennesaw,_Georgia#Gun_law

On the topic of rural voters, there are two major reasons that they tend as conservative as they do. First, the morality factor. Church plays such an enormous role in rural communities like mine, and a lot of these people are...not necessarily God-fearing, but they are kind of religious because of how the community is set up. The second is the simple philosophy of wanting to be left alone and not have the government in their business. Are there racists and deplorables? Honestly, yes, I've known plenty of people around here that fit the category. Even if we remove that, however, religion and the ideals of self-reliance play a bigger role in the creation of rural conservatism.

[The Lone Alliance]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

[Petrasylvania]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

But it's okay to propose "Abolish Obamacare" bills because of loyalty testing.

[Morgantown West Virginia]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

But it's okay to propose "Abolish Obamacare" bills because of loyalty testing.

It is not really loyalty testing because it supports the majority party's platform and it could actually pass.

[The Lone Alliance]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

But it's okay to propose "Abolish Obamacare" bills because of loyalty testing.

You mean something that most of the Republican party supported where as around half of the Democratic party think Abolishing ICE is a bad idea?

Yeah I can't see this being a winning strategy for the midterms, let's support a policy that 3/4 of the country think is stupid.

Or I know let the Republicans agree and replace ICE with Homeland Security directly, then watch as we ship the illegals off to Gitmo! Yeah so much better. /s

[San Lumen]

But it's okay to propose "Abolish Obamacare" bills because of loyalty testing.

You mean something that most of the Republican party supported where as around half of the Democratic party think Abolishing ICE is a bad idea?

Yeah I can't see this being a winning strategy for the midterms, let's support a policy that 3/4 of the country think is stupid.

Or I know let the Republicans agree and replace ICE with Homeland Security directly, then watch as we ship the illegals off to Gitmo! Yeah so much better. /s

Considering how ICE has adopted Gestapo like policies I dont have issue with abolishing them as long as there is replacement agency in place or simply merging it with something else.

[Shrillland]

You mean something that most of the Republican party supported where as around half of the Democratic party think Abolishing ICE is a bad idea?

Yeah I can't see this being a winning strategy for the midterms, let's support a policy that 3/4 of the country think is stupid.

Or I know let the Republicans agree and replace ICE with Homeland Security directly, then watch as we ship the illegals off to Gitmo! Yeah so much better. /s

Considering how ICE has adopted Gestapo like policies I dont have issue with abolishing them as long as there is replacement agency in place or simply merging it with something else.

I've no issue with it myself, but it won't happen as long as Trump is at the top.

[Grinning Dragon]

To ensure the government couldn't restrict the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The founders were deeply distrustful of a normal standing army under the control of the federal government and wished to ensure the citizenry was well armed to defend themselves from invasion or the federal government if necessary, see the Federalist Papers for more details because there's several that deal with the topic.

You conveniently leave out a well regulated militia nesscary to the security of a free state. Those militias are now the National Guard. Where in in the 2nd amendment does it give you a right to any and all firearms. back then all you had was muskets and other very slow loading guns not AR-15s, shotguns and AK-47s.

This is incorrect. Since the Dick Act of 1903 repealed the Militia Law of 1792. The Nat'l Guard is a dual enlistment, otherwise Guard units wouldn't be allowed to be sent overseas. In 1912 the Attorney General ruled that NG units could not be sent outside the US, because they were part of (note "part of") the militia, and the Constitution allows the militia to be called up only for domestic purposes.

[The Lone Alliance]

You mean something that most of the Republican party supported where as around half of the Democratic party think Abolishing ICE is a bad idea?

Yeah I can't see this being a winning strategy for the midterms, let's support a policy that 3/4 of the country think is stupid.

Or I know let the Republicans agree and replace ICE with Homeland Security directly, then watch as we ship the illegals off to Gitmo! Yeah so much better. /s

Considering how ICE has adopted Gestapo like policies I dont have issue with abolishing them as long as there is replacement agency in place or simply merging it with something else.

It'll be merged with Homeland Security, which is pretty much still Gestapo. I'm sure you're one of those people who are part of the "No one is Illegal" mindset but that's not the reality at hand, getting rid of ICE wouldn't end the policies. It might make things even worse because the chaotic fallout would leave less oversight while they rework the chain of command...

And I'm looking into it more, apparently the very people who wrote it actually didn't want the bill to pass but it was a protest thing, however the Republicans are deliberately trying to bring it to vote in order to try and trick Democrats into signing it... and the people who wrote the bill are swiftly backtracking and saying "No we're not going to vote on it, we will however use this to complain about the Zero tolerance policy!"

Okay that's a little sanier.

[San Lumen]

You conveniently leave out a well regulated militia nesscary to the security of a free state. Those militias are now the National Guard. Where in in the 2nd amendment does it give you a right to any and all firearms. back then all you had was muskets and other very slow loading guns not AR-15s, shotguns and AK-47s.

This is incorrect. Since the Dick Act of 1903 repealed the Militia Law of 1792. The Nat'l Guard is a dual enlistment, otherwise Guard units wouldn't be allowed to be sent overseas. In 1912 the Attorney General ruled that NG units could not be sent outside the US, because they were part of (note "part of") the militia, and the Constitution allows the militia to be called up only for domestic purposes.

The what act?

[The Lone Alliance]

This is incorrect. Since the Dick Act of 1903 repealed the Militia Law of 1792. The Nat'l Guard is a dual enlistment, otherwise Guard units wouldn't be allowed to be sent overseas. In 1912 the Attorney General ruled that NG units could not be sent outside the US, because they were part of (note "part of") the militia, and the Constitution allows the militia to be called up only for domestic purposes.

The what act?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903

[Tobleste]

Considering how ICE has adopted Gestapo like policies I dont have issue with abolishing them as long as there is replacement agency in place or simply merging it with something else.

I've no issue with it myself, but it won't happen as long as Trump is at the top.

Yeah it could be a good idea if it has a proper replacement which can only happen with a dem house, Senate and executive.

[Zeganas]

As a leftist myself personally I don't agree with abolishing ice. It should be reformed big time though.

[Chernoslavia]

To ensure the government couldn't restrict the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The founders were deeply distrustful of a normal standing army under the control of the federal government and wished to ensure the citizenry was well armed to defend themselves from invasion or the federal government if necessary, see the Federalist Papers for more details because there's several that deal with the topic.

You conveniently leave out a well regulated militia nesscary to the security of a free state. Those militias are now the National Guard. Where in in the 2nd amendment does it give you a right to any and all firearms. back then all you had was muskets and other very slow loading guns not AR-15s, shotguns and AK-47s.

Dumbest argument I've ever heard, By your logic since people wrote on quilts and paper back then, the 1st Amendment shouldn't apply to the internet.

[The Black Forrest]

You conveniently leave out a well regulated militia nesscary to the security of a free state. Those militias are now the National Guard. Where in in the 2nd amendment does it give you a right to any and all firearms. back then all you had was muskets and other very slow loading guns not AR-15s, shotguns and AK-47s.

Dumbest argument I've ever heard, By your logic since people wrote on quilts and paper back then, the 1st Amendment shouldn't apply to the internet.

When it comes to the Net; some times I think the 1st amendment mind set is a bad idea.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

The Democratic Party is embracing the hard and far-left after their 2016 defeat. This example is a microcosm of them throwing a bone to the hard and far-left

[The Lone Alliance]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

The Democratic Party is embracing the hard and far-left after their 2016 defeat. This example is a microcosm of them throwing a bone to the hard and far-left

Well I realized that the bill itself was more an attempt to signal to the hard left, they didn't actually have any intention of bringing it to vote because they know that, outside of the far and hard left, most of the country wouldn't support such a policy as is... and with a GOP congress there's no chance in hell of it passing, but then the Republicans, who have most of congress, decided to force the bill to vote anyway so they can trap the Democrats in an awkward position.

[Kramanica]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

The ones who drafted it now say they'll vote against it.

L M A O

[The Black Forrest]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

The ones who drafted it now say they'll vote against it.

L M A O

Fox LMAO....

[The Lone Alliance]

Really are some Democrats actually proposed an "Abolish ICE" bill despite the fact that it'll never go anywhere?

Why? Progressive Loyalty testing?

The ones who drafted it now say they'll vote against it.

L M A O

When virtue signalling backfires, I wonder did Republicans ever make similar screw ups?

As in write a protest bill in a congress hostile to them only for the congress to drag it to the floor?

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