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What should be done in response to Russia's recent suppression of gay rights and right to assemble?

Move the Olympics to a different country
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19%
Boycott the Olympics
96
12%
Create the most fabulous Olympics ever
205
27%
Economic and trade sanctions until the crackdown on rights ends
97
13%
Go to war with Russia
39
5%
Nothing - Russia has the right to crack down on gay rights and right to assembly if they so choose
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Total votes : 769

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Postby Agorya » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:46 pm

The rise of neo-Nazis should be seen as a dysfunction is society brought upon by rapid globalization for some countries, particularly in Eastern Europe where the breakdown of the Soviet Union and adoption of neo-liberalism could be seen as frightening for some.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:06 pm

Meryuma wrote:
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Or you could combine Bolsheviks and Nazis into "National Bolsheviks". Russia has those too.

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Postby Pacifornia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:17 pm

Meryuma I'm very glad that we live in relatively liberal areas. I'm from Southern California btw 8)
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:11 pm

Geilinor wrote:
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Russian Nazis.
RUSSIAN NAZIS.
RUSSIAN NAZIS.
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WTF.

Siberia is too good for those people. No, wait, not people, overgrown roundworms posing as people.

I know, it's ridiculous. Neo-Nazis are spreading everywhere.

I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:23 pm

Risottia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I know, it's ridiculous. Neo-Nazis are spreading everywhere.

I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D
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Postby Demo-Periculum » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:25 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Risottia wrote:I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D

Sounds good to me. Get Putin while you're at it.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:53 pm

Demo-Periculum wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D

Sounds good to me. Get Putin while you're at it.


Neh, Putin does more good than harm. That said, if he doesn't catch their whole pathetic organization within eleven months, he's going under that T-34 for ineptitude :P
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Postby Demo-Periculum » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:09 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Demo-Periculum wrote:Sounds good to me. Get Putin while you're at it.


Neh, Putin does more good than harm. That said, if he doesn't catch their whole pathetic organization within eleven months, he's going under that T-34 for ineptitude :P


Well, I'd argue with the "more good than harm" (by the way, I'm also Russian.) but so long as he goes under the tank we're agreed.
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Postby Jamjai » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:16 pm

Risottia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I know, it's ridiculous. Neo-Nazis are spreading everywhere.

I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


He had plans for everything. My life would be different if I was living in Hitler's New World Order
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Postby Blakk Metal » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:13 pm

Pacifornia wrote:Meryuma I'm very glad that we live in relatively liberal areas. I'm from Southern California btw 8)

Isn't Southern California conservative?

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:14 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:Meryuma I'm very glad that we live in relatively liberal areas. I'm from Southern California btw 8)

Isn't Southern California conservative?

From what I understand (myself being a dyed-in-the-wool Western Washington liberal), SoCal has both left and right extremes.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:30 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Isn't Southern California conservative?

From what I understand (myself being a dyed-in-the-wool Western Washington liberal), SoCal has both left and right extremes.

The thing with California is that both the liberals and conseratives are far more extreme than the national average.
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:28 pm

Demo-Periculum wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Neh, Putin does more good than harm. That said, if he doesn't catch their whole pathetic organization within eleven months, he's going under that T-34 for ineptitude :P


Well, I'd argue with the "more good than harm" (by the way, I'm also Russian.) but so long as he goes under the tank we're agreed.


Eh, not if he doesn't deserve it. If Putin's Civil Rights Programs were as good as his Stabilization Programs, he'd be the most popular modern leader on NSG.


Jamjai wrote:
Risottia wrote:I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


He had plans for everything. My life would be different if I was living in Hitler's New World Order


I'd either be in the Resistance, or dead, so yeah, mine too would be drastically different :hug:


Blakk Metal wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:Meryuma I'm very glad that we live in relatively liberal areas. I'm from Southern California btw 8)

Isn't Southern California conservative?


Depends on the area. SoCal is extremely diverse. Which, I think, is awesome :D
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Postby Mirkana » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:43 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Risottia wrote:I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D


Fuck yeah. Excellent machine.
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Postby The Carlisle » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:55 pm

Mirkana wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D


Fuck yeah. Excellent machine.

I like the classics, but I like what they have going now. The T-90 is an excellent tank.
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Postby Pacifornia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:24 pm

Demo-Periculum wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D

Sounds good to me. Get Putin while you're at it.


T-55 and make the scared runners get hell rained down on them with a Hind, courtesy of Soviet Russia :lol:
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Postby Pacifornia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:28 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Demo-Periculum wrote:
Well, I'd argue with the "more good than harm" (by the way, I'm also Russian.) but so long as he goes under the tank we're agreed.


Eh, not if he doesn't deserve it. If Putin's Civil Rights Programs were as good as his Stabilization Programs, he'd be the most popular modern leader on NSG.


Jamjai wrote:
He had plans for everything. My life would be different if I was living in Hitler's New World Order


I'd either be in the Resistance, or dead, so yeah, mine too would be drastically different :hug:


Blakk Metal wrote:Isn't Southern California conservative?


Depends on the area. SoCal is extremely diverse. Which, I think, is awesome :D


Well in my experience, the people I've met can be pretty liberal to mildly conservative. Of course, I've read news and reports that there is a sizable and scary presence of neo-nazis scattered around my area. At least they only rear their ugly heads during rallys. Where I live, people are pretty damn tolerant even though this a red county :meh:
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Postby Shofercia » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:19 pm

The Carlisle wrote:
Mirkana wrote:
Fuck yeah. Excellent machine.

I like the classics, but I like what they have going now. The T-90 is an excellent tank.


Indeed it is: http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/3-2002/ac/raowdsmcc/

The use of T-90S tanks in Dagestan deserves mention. A group of these vehicles consisting of 8 to 12 units according to different sources was supposed to be delivered to India. Fol­lowing a sharp aggravation of the situation in the Cauca­sus, however, the tanks were transferred to Dagestan. In the Kadari zone one T-90 was hit by seven RPG anti-tank rockets but remained in action. This indicates that with regular equip­ment T-90S is the best protected Russian tank, especially if Shtora and Arena defensive protection systems are integrated in it.



Pacifornia wrote:
Demo-Periculum wrote:Sounds good to me. Get Putin while you're at it.


T-55 and make the scared runners get hell rained down on them with a Hind, courtesy of Soviet Russia :lol:


It's always nice to place Neo-Nazis on their Hind legs :P


Pacifornia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Depends on the area. SoCal is extremely diverse. Which, I think, is awesome :D


Well in my experience, the people I've met can be pretty liberal to mildly conservative. Of course, I've read news and reports that there is a sizable and scary presence of neo-nazis scattered around my area. At least they only rear their ugly heads during rallys. Where I live, people are pretty damn tolerant even though this a red county :meh:


Same here. Our Republicans and Reds are really decent, with a few exceptions.
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Postby Murray land » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:06 pm

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Vareiln wrote:Nazis being cowardly?
Like that isn't the truth about all Nazis and authoritarians.


Yeah, like Communist and democrats are so much braver and smarter. :roll:

No they are much worse democrats almost define cowards. Communists I've found can be pretty ballsy at the very least.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:22 am

Shofercia wrote:
Risottia wrote:I wonder if I can spread them even better by using, instead of a butter knife, the tracks of a T-80.


I'd prefer the T-34. Brings back good memories :D


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Postby Risottia » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:24 am

Murray land wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Yeah, like Communist and democrats are so much braver and smarter. :roll:

No they are much worse democrats almost define cowards. Communists I've found can be pretty ballsy at the very least.

I don't remember Thälmann killing himself with cyanide in his bunker, or Togliatti trying to run to Switzerland disguised as a foreign soldier. :lol:
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:30 am

Rhodesi wrote:I would like to remind people that these groups are vigilantes, not backed by the Russian government.


These groups have existed in Russia for years, and have been doing this for much longer than since the laws were introduced... and these groups have been linked to the Kremlin in the past.
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Postby Argentina Leone » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:45 am

I am not surprised. Russian society is very homophobic and open hostility towards LGBT people is now government policy. While the United States and many other countries are moving forward in LGBT rights, Russia is moving backwards. I personally wouldn't be surprised if the Russian government criminalizes homosexual sex within three years.

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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:51 am

Argentina Leone wrote:I am not surprised. Russian society is very homophobic and open hostility towards LGBT people is now government policy. While the United States and many other countries are moving forward in LGBT rights, Russia is moving backwards. I personally wouldn't be surprised if the Russian government criminalizes homosexual sex within three years.


And we're talking about the country that 10 years ago gave us lesbian pop singers who kissed during their performances.
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Postby Argentina Leone » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:00 am

Kingsley Bedford wrote:
Argentina Leone wrote:I am not surprised. Russian society is very homophobic and open hostility towards LGBT people is now government policy. While the United States and many other countries are moving forward in LGBT rights, Russia is moving backwards. I personally wouldn't be surprised if the Russian government criminalizes homosexual sex within three years.


And we're talking about the country that 10 years ago gave us lesbian pop singers who kissed during their performances.


Which is why I said that Russia is moving backwards in regards to LGBT rights. Before replying to a post, you need to make sure to thoroughly read it.

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