PDOX Games VIII: Communism Will Win

[Bralia]

DOZZO RONO BOGGO MAGGO

KAYAYANAKAKANAYAYAYAKANAKANANAYABATMAN

[The Huskar Social Union]

Through careful and strategic planning and manoeuvring i have set the stage for my family's take over of the Riverlands and ascension to lord Paramount.

And by careful and strategic planning and manoeuvering i mean i killed a fuck ton of soldiers, almost got killed by a dragon, had my castle sacked and sacked harrenhal.

Good times were had by all, bar the thousands dead.

Also having sex with people, decent bit of that as well cuz a targaryen is in charge of the riverlands, here husband and daughter are of my line, fantastic stuff.

[Serrus]

So I started as 1279 Bulgaria. HOUSE LETTUCE, yay.
They were Sunni for a few minutes. Weird. He's also a relative of In-khan-prehensible, Ghengis himself.
And here we see the Swoley Roman Empire. These guys are terrifying.
I went from having an underage queen, to having a much improved underage queen. Then I managed to matrilineally snag a Piast, so my kids get the bloodline!
Also for whatever reason...Crusader States happened.

[The Imperial Reach]

So I tried another America game and holy fuck, I really hate Britain. These guys just won't mind their own fucking business. I mean, it's bad enough I get spammed with messages about the bullshit drama they're starting on the other end of the planet but good Lord they're trying to muscle in on everything. I can't get shit done in the Americas because Britain keeps sticking it's fat nose everywhere on the continents. Talk about frustrating.

This game has been more eventful though, I will say that much. I got Texas again, avoided the Civil War again with ease, and got to colonize quite a bit of British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. I don't know how, but Russia ended up stomping Britain in a war for their holdings in British Columbia so naturally they tried to take mine next - dragging France into the war with them. It was them and Krakow (lol) against me, Liberia, the USCA, and Colombia but Colombia pussied out because France was kicking it's ass. The worst part is I had literally detached an army to help them it, but immediately after I destroyed the French army they backed out of the war. Fucking useless cowards.

France also occupied Liberia, with Russia adding an additional wargoal to obtain Liberia as a result, so I had to go get them out. Beat the French Navy and Army at every battle and ended up occupying their two territories in West Africa. Then I marched my army across the Sahara to occupy Tunisia. The shocking part is it worked, somehow, even though all logic suggests I should've lost my army to attrition.

At any rate, I also seized all of Russia's holdings in North America. I was just about to starting invading Siberia and sending a unit to help the UCSA against some troubling French troops until Russia started suing for a white peace. White Peace. Like, really? Literally the first thing in the war I did was destroy the Russian Army in Vancouver and occupy all their North American territories - denying them their primary objective, because France was occupying shit in Liberia and Colombia this somehow meant that Russia & Co. had achieved "total victory" and so the game was encouraging me to surrender.

B R U H ?

Then I start kicking France's ass, but that's only enough for a White Peace? Come on. That's bullshit. Against my better judgement I agreed just so I could end the war and get back to more important shit because this conflict was time-consuming and dragging on forever. I'm still pissed at Colombia for sucking and then wimping out.

Oh, and now I'm pissed at Britain because they're fucking up my relations with Mexico, the UCSA, and Brazil. With Mexico I don't care because I'm about to try and Manifest Destiny them again, and if Britain gets involved again I swear... Only thing I really have to worry about is Colombia and the UCSA backing them, as they're both allied with Mexico. Of course Colombia is also allied with me so they could go either way.

I gotta say even though I like the game, the way it handles Warfare and Diplomacy leaves much to be desired.

[Dawetid]

While customizing my eu4 game via console commands I accidentally gave the mesoamericans all institutions. In 1462.

......oops.

S U N S E T I N V A S I O N

[The Batavia]

While customizing my eu4 game via console commands I accidentally gave the mesoamericans all institutions. In 1462.

......oops.

S U N S E T I N V A S I O N

Oh hey look at the sea, there are wierd ships coming to shore. Man, the people on the ship look wierd, they're half naked and covered with leafs or some shit.

Oh god oh fuck, why are they killing people and ripping their hearts out?

[The Huskar Social Union]

S U N S E T I N V A S I O N

Oh hey look at the sea, there are wierd ships coming to shore. Man, the people on the ship look wierd, they're half naked and covered with leafs or some shit.

Oh god oh fuck, why are they killing people and ripping their hearts out?

https://www.chapelcomic.com/27/

[Impaled Nazarene]

Oh hey look at the sea, there are wierd ships coming to shore. Man, the people on the ship look wierd, they're half naked and covered with leafs or some shit.

Oh god oh fuck, why are they killing people and ripping their hearts out?

https://www.chapelcomic.com/27/

I quit before DOOM was a thing so I always thought this was from Sunset Invasion and mislabeled.

[United Muscovite Nations]

[Ostroeuropa]

So I tried another America game and holy fuck, I really hate Britain. These guys just won't mind their own fucking business. I mean, it's bad enough I get spammed with messages about the bullshit drama they're starting on the other end of the planet but good Lord they're trying to muscle in on everything. I can't get shit done in the Americas because Britain keeps sticking it's fat nose everywhere on the continents. Talk about frustrating.

This game has been more eventful though, I will say that much. I got Texas again, avoided the Civil War again with ease, and got to colonize quite a bit of British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. I don't know how, but Russia ended up stomping Britain in a war for their holdings in British Columbia so naturally they tried to take mine next - dragging France into the war with them. It was them and Krakow (lol) against me, Liberia, the USCA, and Colombia but Colombia pussied out because France was kicking it's ass. The worst part is I had literally detached an army to help them it, but immediately after I destroyed the French army they backed out of the war. Fucking useless cowards.

France also occupied Liberia, with Russia adding an additional wargoal to obtain Liberia as a result, so I had to go get them out. Beat the French Navy and Army at every battle and ended up occupying their two territories in West Africa. Then I marched my army across the Sahara to occupy Tunisia. The shocking part is it worked, somehow, even though all logic suggests I should've lost my army to attrition.

At any rate, I also seized all of Russia's holdings in North America. I was just about to starting invading Siberia and sending a unit to help the UCSA against some troubling French troops until Russia started suing for a white peace. White Peace. Like, really? Literally the first thing in the war I did was destroy the Russian Army in Vancouver and occupy all their North American territories - denying them their primary objective, because France was occupying shit in Liberia and Colombia this somehow meant that Russia & Co. had achieved "total victory" and so the game was encouraging me to surrender.

B R U H ?

Then I start kicking France's ass, but that's only enough for a White Peace? Come on. That's bullshit. Against my better judgement I agreed just so I could end the war and get back to more important shit because this conflict was time-consuming and dragging on forever. I'm still pissed at Colombia for sucking and then wimping out.

Oh, and now I'm pissed at Britain because they're fucking up my relations with Mexico, the UCSA, and Brazil. With Mexico I don't care because I'm about to try and Manifest Destiny them again, and if Britain gets involved again I swear... Only thing I really have to worry about is Colombia and the UCSA backing them, as they're both allied with Mexico. Of course Colombia is also allied with me so they could go either way.

I gotta say even though I like the game, the way it handles Warfare and Diplomacy leaves much to be desired.

Investing in countries means you can influence them far easier. The New World will usually not have anyone bothering with it until the rest of the world is handled, so after pumping the US full of railroads you can develop the rest of the americas and then usually nobody can touch you on influence as your modifier from investing Vs them not investing will mean you curbstomp them.

It might also be worth allying with the UK and focusing on southern expansionism until the UK gets itself caught up in a major international conflict, then taking advantage of it by invading canada.

[Ostroeuropa]

Byzantium game having the usual opening.

3 city of Byzantion VS Seleucids, Macedon, Egypt, Thrace, Aetolia.

I have 15,000 troops VS their 200,000ish. (Thrace is the wargoal).

But i've occupied my wargoal, so it's a matter of sitting and waiting and hoping they come to me one army at a time. 5000 archers, 5000 heavy infantry, 5000 heavy cavalry.

Even if forced to white peace the war has been good, because I have been pillaging Thrace and sending slaves back to Byzantion, so next war they'll be even weaker.

I learned the hard way from my Saxony game that this game is a lot less reliant on simply spamming troops to overwhelm someone. This is a war I might actually win.

You just need a good commander, defensive terrain, good tactics, and so on. My Saxony game I threw about 80,000 troops at a 6,000 troop but he stomped me. Hoping to do the same here and bring Byzantion onto the map properly

If I can successfully push to make it a province large (Europa province), the game will get muuuuuuch easier.

[The Imperial Reach]

So I tried another America game and holy fuck, I really hate Britain. These guys just won't mind their own fucking business. I mean, it's bad enough I get spammed with messages about the bullshit drama they're starting on the other end of the planet but good Lord they're trying to muscle in on everything. I can't get shit done in the Americas because Britain keeps sticking it's fat nose everywhere on the continents. Talk about frustrating.

This game has been more eventful though, I will say that much. I got Texas again, avoided the Civil War again with ease, and got to colonize quite a bit of British Columbia, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. I don't know how, but Russia ended up stomping Britain in a war for their holdings in British Columbia so naturally they tried to take mine next - dragging France into the war with them. It was them and Krakow (lol) against me, Liberia, the USCA, and Colombia but Colombia pussied out because France was kicking it's ass. The worst part is I had literally detached an army to help them it, but immediately after I destroyed the French army they backed out of the war. Fucking useless cowards.

France also occupied Liberia, with Russia adding an additional wargoal to obtain Liberia as a result, so I had to go get them out. Beat the French Navy and Army at every battle and ended up occupying their two territories in West Africa. Then I marched my army across the Sahara to occupy Tunisia. The shocking part is it worked, somehow, even though all logic suggests I should've lost my army to attrition.

At any rate, I also seized all of Russia's holdings in North America. I was just about to starting invading Siberia and sending a unit to help the UCSA against some troubling French troops until Russia started suing for a white peace. White Peace. Like, really? Literally the first thing in the war I did was destroy the Russian Army in Vancouver and occupy all their North American territories - denying them their primary objective, because France was occupying shit in Liberia and Colombia this somehow meant that Russia & Co. had achieved "total victory" and so the game was encouraging me to surrender.

B R U H ?

Then I start kicking France's ass, but that's only enough for a White Peace? Come on. That's bullshit. Against my better judgement I agreed just so I could end the war and get back to more important shit because this conflict was time-consuming and dragging on forever. I'm still pissed at Colombia for sucking and then wimping out.

Oh, and now I'm pissed at Britain because they're fucking up my relations with Mexico, the UCSA, and Brazil. With Mexico I don't care because I'm about to try and Manifest Destiny them again, and if Britain gets involved again I swear... Only thing I really have to worry about is Colombia and the UCSA backing them, as they're both allied with Mexico. Of course Colombia is also allied with me so they could go either way.

I gotta say even though I like the game, the way it handles Warfare and Diplomacy leaves much to be desired.

Investing in countries means you can influence them far easier. The New World will usually not have anyone bothering with it until the rest of the world is handled, so after pumping the US full of railroads you can develop the rest of the americas and then usually nobody can touch you on influence as your modifier from investing Vs them not investing will mean you curbstomp them.

It might also be worth allying with the UK and focusing on southern expansionism until the UK gets itself caught up in a major international conflict, then taking advantage of it by invading canada.

When you say "invest" you mean like build railroads and factories in their countries? I was wondering what the point of that was.

[North German Realm]

Investing in countries means you can influence them far easier. The New World will usually not have anyone bothering with it until the rest of the world is handled, so after pumping the US full of railroads you can develop the rest of the americas and then usually nobody can touch you on influence as your modifier from investing Vs them not investing will mean you curbstomp them.

It might also be worth allying with the UK and focusing on southern expansionism until the UK gets itself caught up in a major international conflict, then taking advantage of it by invading canada.

When you say "invest" you mean like build railroads and factories in their countries? I was wondering what the point of that was.

It has two points, actually: One is that you can influence them easier, which means better economy and prestige for you, and -in certain situations- better supply lines when you wanna move troops through them.
The other is that if (and when) you invade them, the newly-acquired land will be developed and you'll not have to wait for a factory to be built there then. In certain scenarios, those will inevitably join you without conflict (like all of German states with Prussia or AUstria, or California and Texas with the US, or all of Italy with Piedmont or Sicily.)

[Bralia]

I think my favorite takeaway from this I:R Dev Diary is that you can stab pigs a lot more. Like . . . a lot more. You can just keep on stabbing. All the time. Fucking pigs deserve it.

But to be more descriptive and helpful, this is legitimately one of the most interesting Dev Diaries I've ever read. They're finally changing things that we've taken for granted in Paradox games. The button-click and all of your problems go away methodology is finally being shot in the face and left to die. Paradox understands the break in immersion that those actions are and pulling a clear 180 against insta-mana clicks. I think the reception towards I:R would have been a lot warmer if they'd shipped the game with these kinds of changes, would've made people think it looks and feels a lot less like EUIV.

[Purpelia]

I think my favorite takeaway from this I:R Dev Diary is that you can stab pigs a lot more. Like . . . a lot more. You can just keep on stabbing. All the time. Fucking pigs deserve it.

But to be more descriptive and helpful, this is legitimately one of the most interesting Dev Diaries I've ever read. They're finally changing things that we've taken for granted in Paradox games. The button-click and all of your problems go away methodology is finally being shot in the face and left to die. Paradox understands the break in immersion that those actions are and pulling a clear 180 against insta-mana clicks. I think the reception towards I:R would have been a lot warmer if they'd shipped the game with these kinds of changes, would've made people think it looks and feels a lot less like EUIV.

Bet you any money this was not supposed to be a "free" patch but half of the first DLC. And they just went into panic mode and published what ever they had finished as free to appease the crowd.

[Bralia]

I think my favorite takeaway from this I:R Dev Diary is that you can stab pigs a lot more. Like . . . a lot more. You can just keep on stabbing. All the time. Fucking pigs deserve it.

But to be more descriptive and helpful, this is legitimately one of the most interesting Dev Diaries I've ever read. They're finally changing things that we've taken for granted in Paradox games. The button-click and all of your problems go away methodology is finally being shot in the face and left to die. Paradox understands the break in immersion that those actions are and pulling a clear 180 against insta-mana clicks. I think the reception towards I:R would have been a lot warmer if they'd shipped the game with these kinds of changes, would've made people think it looks and feels a lot less like EUIV.

Bet you any money this was not supposed to be a "free" patch but half of the first DLC. And they just went into panic mode and published what ever they had finished as free to appease the crowd.

You know what, I'm going to tell you to shut the fuck up, too. Here's something I shared in that Dev Diary:

I've had enough of the god-damn denigration and negativity on these forums. Everyone needs to shut the hell up and learn some positive reinforcement. When Paradox does something great like this, stop, think and CELEBRATE. Praise them! Praise Johan and the team for listening! This is one of the best Dev Diaries I've seen in years and I'm really overjoyed to celebrate this transition into a new style of thinking.

[Purpelia]

One should not celebrate and praise others for doing late and at gunpoint the things they should have done immediately and of their own free will.

[Alvecia]

One should not celebrate and praise others for doing late and at gunpoint the things they should have done immediately and of their own free will.

Allegedly

[Purpelia]

One should not celebrate and praise others for doing late and at gunpoint the things they should have done immediately and of their own free will.

Allegedly

Before we start a fight let me just give you my perspective:
1. I don't preorder games or get on hype trains. Instead I waited to see what actual letsplays and reviews of the game would tell me before picking it up.
2. I looked at those and have seen a game that even by Paradox standards is sparse at launch and generally just not as good a product as to allow it to compete with the ones I already owned, even in their launch state.
1 + 2 = I have refused to buy the game from them.

It really is that simple. If they wanted my money they would have had to include this free patch and a lot more in the original release. And if I don't tell them this fact openly and directly and they don't take it to heart than they won't be getting my money at all, ever. Not for this game or for any future one built on the same model. Bottom line is that I owe no love or allegiance to gaming companies. I do not owe them my money. If they can't produce a product I deem worth the asking price they ain't getting it. And if that means they go under so be it.

And we can both agree that this is not a happy outcome compared to actually getting good games worth the money.

[Alvecia]

Allegedly

Before we start a fight let me just give you my perspective:
1. I don't preorder games or get on hype trains. Instead I waited to see what actual letsplays and reviews of the game would tell me before picking it up.
2. I looked at those and have seen a game that even by Paradox standards is sparse at launch and generally just not as good a product as to allow it to compete with the ones I already owned, even in their launch state.
1 + 2 = I have refused to buy the game from them.

It really is that simple. If they wanted my money they would have had to include this free patch and a lot more in the original release. And if I don't tell them this fact openly and directly and they don't take it to heart than they won't be getting my money at all, ever. Not for this game or for any future one built on the same model. And as an actual fan of their games I do not want to see that happen.

I don't really care if and/or why you do or do not buy their games. It was the accusation of tomfoolery I was pointing out was merely alleged.

[Purpelia]

I don't really care if and/or why you do or do not buy their games. It was the accusation of tomfoolery I was pointing out was merely alleged.

It's less than a month after launch day and they have a massive game changing patch ready to go. As an actual software developer that works on games I can categorically tell you that thing was being worked on at least a month before launch date. So it's either cut content that was meant to be a DLC later or half a DLC that's being doled out too early.

[Alvecia]

I don't really care if and/or why you do or do not buy their games. It was the accusation of tomfoolery I was pointing out was merely alleged.

It's less than a month after launch day and they have a massive game changing patch ready to go. As an actual software developer that works on games I can categorically tell you that thing was being worked on at least a month before launch date. So it's either cut content that was meant to be a DLC later or half a DLC that's being doled out too early.

They had a functionally working game two months before release when the first Dev clash started, and a weeks worth of feedback from the content creators they gave review copies to.

[Bralia]

I should not say a daaaaaamn thing if I want to remain on this site. That's the level of hatred I have right now. Just so you're aware of how I feel about you as a person Purpelia. And here I thought I was losing my inhibitions in a positive way.

[The Huskar Social Union]

I should not say a daaaaaamn thing if I want to remain on this site. That's the level of hatred I have right now. Just so you're aware of how I feel about you as a person Purpelia. And here I thought I was losing my inhibitions in a positive way.

How about both of you then just fucking stick one another on ignore then?

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is a fucking overreaction if ive ever seen one. Calm down.