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What is your favorite Skyrim hold?

Whiterun
78
25%
Hjaalmarch (Morthal)
10
3%
Falkreath
31
10%
The Pale (Dawnstar)
8
3%
The Reach (Markarth)
42
14%
Haafingar (Solitude)
47
15%
Eastmarch (Windhelm)
19
6%
Winterhold
20
6%
The Rift (Riften)
55
18%
 
Total votes : 310

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Postby Ism » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:29 pm

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Ism wrote:Whatever our opinion on elves, we can all agree that Argonians are sexy sneks yes?

Also:



Damn Stormcloak traitor!

Whatever you say, Crassius Curio.


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Postby Atheris » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:35 pm

Ism wrote:
Atheris wrote:Anyone else here a diehard Stormcloak?


Damn Stormcloak traitor!

Damn heretical puppet!
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:39 pm

Atheris wrote:
Ism wrote:

Damn Stormcloak traitor!

Damn heretical puppet!

Damm Bethesda for not allowing me to pick the third option and taking over Skyrim myself!
I do be tired


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The first Galactic Republic
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:36 pm

Reject modernity.

Embrace the Forsworn
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:45 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:Reject modernity.

Embrace the Forsworn


You can tell it's fake because Forsworn don't use warhammers.

:ugeek:
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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:32 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:Reject modernity.

Embrace the Forsworn

The Reachmen honestly don't deserve to live. Don't @ me.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:35 pm

Atheris wrote:Anyone else here a diehard Stormcloak?


Does "I hate being called a soldier and all the faux soldier talk and so have a pathological hatred for the Imperial Legion." Count?

It's the same reason why I can't do Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:37 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Atheris wrote:Anyone else here a diehard Stormcloak?


Does "I hate being called a soldier and all the faux soldier talk and so have a pathological hatred for the Imperial Legion." Count?

It's the same reason why I can't do Brotherhood of Steel in Fallout 4.

Hey, as long as you hate the False Empire, you're fine in my book.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:24 am

I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.

The Imperial Reach wrote:Fixed that for you. ;)

And yes, Huskar, we all murder Thalmor patrols. That's normal for every Skyrim player.

Nah Niranye is where its at : D
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The Imperial Reach
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Postby The Imperial Reach » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:38 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.

The Imperial Reach wrote:Fixed that for you. ;)

And yes, Huskar, we all murder Thalmor patrols. That's normal for every Skyrim player.

Nah Niranye is where its at : D


Niranye is a snobbish fence for the Thieves Guild who wears too much makeup. Nenya all the way.

Anyway, yeah it's obvious the Empire is in a far better position to take on the Dominion than a hypothetical independent Skyrim. The Stormcloaks tearing apart Skyrim and killing more Nords than anything else only weakens Skyrim and the Empire as a whole. The Thalmor directly benefit from the rebellion and admit as much in their own dossier on Ulfric. Hell, even Ulfric admits the rebellion was a mistake in Sovngarde though for admittedly different reasons.
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The Imperial Reach wrote:I've encountered this event maybe 4 times and I've never lost - not even once. Even the one time when I had no skill-related options, I still won.

Stop giving me more reasons to hate you
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:39 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.

The Imperial Reach wrote:Fixed that for you. ;)

And yes, Huskar, we all murder Thalmor patrols. That's normal for every Skyrim player.

Nah Niranye is where its at : D

Hopefully they give clear answers to several of the quest lines.

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Postby Andsed » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:42 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.


Nah Niranye is where its at : D


Niranye is a snobbish fence for the Thieves Guild who wears too much makeup. Nenya all the way.

Anyway, yeah it's obvious the Empire is in a far better position to take on the Dominion than a hypothetical independent Skyrim. The Stormcloaks tearing apart Skyrim and killing more Nords than anything else only weakens Skyrim and the Empire as a whole. The Thalmor directly benefit from the rebellion and admit as much in their own dossier on Ulfric. Hell, even Ulfric admits the rebellion was a mistake in Sovngarde though for admittedly different reasons.

This. While an independent Skyrim could fight off the Thalmor chances would be far better with a united empire. The Stormcloaks are to hotblooded and impulsive. Their rebellion is why the Thalmor has been cracking down on Talos worship so hard. Before all this the Empire did not really enforce the ban and people tended to just worship in secret. Killing the High King and starting a rebellion did nothing but make the Thalmor crack down harder and kill thousands.
I do be tired


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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:45 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.


But the Empire won't attack their puppetmasters. The Elves would've lost if the Empire had the gaul to keep pushing forward; elves reproduce much slower, too, so any power that can make even two or three nations in Tamriel fight them off is powerful enough to eventually make the Empire do something worthwhile (for once).

And yes, Huskar, we all murder Thalmor patrols. That's normal for every Skyrim player.

Nah Niranye is where its at : D


Thalmor traitor.

Belethor's the good shit.
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The Islands of Versilia
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:46 am

The Imperial Reach wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.


Nah Niranye is where its at : D


Niranye is a snobbish fence for the Thieves Guild who wears too much makeup. Nenya all the way.

Anyway, yeah it's obvious the Empire is in a far better position to take on the Dominion than a hypothetical independent Skyrim. The Stormcloaks tearing apart Skyrim and killing more Nords than anything else only weakens Skyrim and the Empire as a whole. The Thalmor directly benefit from the rebellion and admit as much in their own dossier on Ulfric. Hell, even Ulfric admits the rebellion was a mistake in Sovngarde though for admittedly different reasons.


I’m personally pro Stormcloak, though not for ideological reasons - I’m definitely pro-Empire in that area. But I see the Empire like a dying thing that won’t be able to really stand up to the Dominion even with Skyrim back under control. I don’t like Ulfric, not at all, but an independent Skyrim that’s able to rebuild and focus its attention on fighting the Altmer is more desirable in my belief. Taking down something that’s practically dead and growing something new that’s stronger and isn’t hampered by the now Empire’s own problems, if you get what I mean.

Personally my ideal Skyrim is an independent Skyrim under a Dragonborn High King, or a new Dragonborn Empire. But that isn’t very likely nor realistic unless the lore’s being stretched IMO.
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Atheris
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
The Imperial Reach wrote:
Niranye is a snobbish fence for the Thieves Guild who wears too much makeup. Nenya all the way.

Anyway, yeah it's obvious the Empire is in a far better position to take on the Dominion than a hypothetical independent Skyrim. The Stormcloaks tearing apart Skyrim and killing more Nords than anything else only weakens Skyrim and the Empire as a whole. The Thalmor directly benefit from the rebellion and admit as much in their own dossier on Ulfric. Hell, even Ulfric admits the rebellion was a mistake in Sovngarde though for admittedly different reasons.


I’m personally pro Stormcloak, though not for ideological reasons - I’m definitely pro-Empire in that area. But I see the Empire like a dying thing that won’t be able to really stand up to the Dominion even with Skyrim back under control. I don’t like Ulfric, not at all, but an independent Skyrim that’s able to rebuild and focus its attention on fighting the Altmer is more desirable in my belief. Taking down something that’s practically dead and growing something new that’s stronger and isn’t hampered by the now Empire’s own problems, if you get what I mean.

Personally my ideal Skyrim is an independent Skyrim under a Dragonborn High King, or a new Dragonborn Empire. But that isn’t very likely nor realistic unless the lore’s being stretched IMO.

Honestly, I don't see how you can be anti-Stormcloak ideology but pro-Skyrim. They kinda cancel each other out.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:48 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was a diehard stormcloak first time i played, but nearly every time since then ive went pro imperial, and think overall the empire is a better choice for fighting the High Elves. Which sucks because i know ES VI is more than likely gona time jump after the next great war and we wont see it.


Nah Niranye is where its at : D

Hopefully they give clear answers to several of the quest lines.


I reckon they’re going to canonically leave it at a stalemate with the quest Season Unending, as that’s part of the main questline.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:50 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they give clear answers to several of the quest lines.


I reckon they’re going to canonically leave it at a stalemate with the quest Season Unending, as that’s part of the main questline.

Well, at least some part of Skyrim is independent...

I wonder where that would leave Whiterun. Would it be an independent city-state, or pro-Empire? Will they give up the empire and join the Stormcloaks? It's interesting to think about.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:51 am

Atheris wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
I’m personally pro Stormcloak, though not for ideological reasons - I’m definitely pro-Empire in that area. But I see the Empire like a dying thing that won’t be able to really stand up to the Dominion even with Skyrim back under control. I don’t like Ulfric, not at all, but an independent Skyrim that’s able to rebuild and focus its attention on fighting the Altmer is more desirable in my belief. Taking down something that’s practically dead and growing something new that’s stronger and isn’t hampered by the now Empire’s own problems, if you get what I mean.

Personally my ideal Skyrim is an independent Skyrim under a Dragonborn High King, or a new Dragonborn Empire. But that isn’t very likely nor realistic unless the lore’s being stretched IMO.

Honestly, I don't see how you can be anti-Stormcloak ideology but pro-Skyrim. They kinda cancel each other out.


The Stormcloaks are, at least on my view, too isolationist and treat the non-Nords far too unfairly for my liking - the Argonians and Dunmer in Windhelm, for example. Being pro-Skyrim just means you want the best for it, which would be as part of the Empire if said Empire wasn’t doomed to die.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:51 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Hopefully they give clear answers to several of the quest lines.


I reckon they’re going to canonically leave it at a stalemate with the quest Season Unending, as that’s part of the main questline.

That could work. I hope killing Paarthurnax isn't canon. I was so angry at The Blades when they gave me that quest. I was like the heck with you and wanted nothing more to do with them

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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:52 am

Atheris wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
I reckon they’re going to canonically leave it at a stalemate with the quest Season Unending, as that’s part of the main questline.

Well, at least some part of Skyrim is independent...

I wonder where that would leave Whiterun. Would it be an independent city-state, or pro-Empire? Will they give up the empire and join the Stormcloaks? It's interesting to think about.


I think it’s going to have the same status it did in Season Unending, if not an Imperial ally since Jarl Ballin’ is isn’t exactly on board with Ulfric.
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
I reckon they’re going to canonically leave it at a stalemate with the quest Season Unending, as that’s part of the main questline.

That could work. I hope killing Paarthurnax isn't canon. I was so angry at The Blades when they gave me that quest. I was like the heck with you and wanted nothing more to do with them


I doubt it would. The Blades questline was a side one, and at most they’re going to leave it ambiguous to maintain player choice to a degree.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:56 am

The Islands of Versilia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That could work. I hope killing Paarthurnax isn't canon. I was so angry at The Blades when they gave me that quest. I was like the heck with you and wanted nothing more to do with them


I doubt it would. The Blades questline was a side one, and at most they’re going to leave it ambiguous to maintain player choice to a degree.

How would be left ambiguous?

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
I doubt it would. The Blades questline was a side one, and at most they’re going to leave it ambiguous to maintain player choice to a degree.

How would be left ambiguous?

Dragon Break obviously.
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Postby Atheris » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:
I doubt it would. The Blades questline was a side one, and at most they’re going to leave it ambiguous to maintain player choice to a degree.

How would be left ambiguous?

Maybe Paarthurnax dies in some other way? Then the future books are like "oh we don't know if the dragonborn killed paarthurnax or if he died in some other way"
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