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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:31 pm

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See, I fucking knew it.

The creators of Girls und Panzer don't have no cojones, meng.

Or they realize that most people who watch cute girls doing cute things show aren't looking for a gore fest and that such a thing would alienate most of the fanbase while also not selling.


Worth it.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:35 pm

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See, I fucking knew it.

The creators of Girls und Panzer don't have no cojones, meng.

Or they realize that most people who watch cute girls doing cute things show aren't looking for a gore fest and that such a thing would alienate most of the fanbase while also not selling.

I wasn't going into that show for CGDCT. I was expecting tank fights. And I never got them.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:37 pm

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The Corparation wrote:Or they realize that most people who watch cute girls doing cute things show aren't looking for a gore fest and that such a thing would alienate most of the fanbase while also not selling.

I wasn't going into that show for CGDCT. I was expecting tank fights. And I never got them.


Why even fucking bother with the pretense.

It's like they tried to be edgelords but then they shaved down the edge until it was blunt.

If you're going to be an edgelord, go full edgelord. Go Death Note.

Girls und Panzer is just a gimmick.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:46 pm

I don't think they were ever trying to be edge lords. Tanks aren't edgy.
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Postby 2nd Palmeran Republic » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:46 pm

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The Corparation wrote:Or they realize that most people who watch cute girls doing cute things show aren't looking for a gore fest and that such a thing would alienate most of the fanbase while also not selling.


Worth it.


Eh, CGDCT and minors with military hardware is weird like that if you think too hard about it. Unless you wanna use minors like King Hamdo or the Arume. Oh and Italy's Social Welfare Agency.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:50 pm

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Worth it.


Eh, CGDCT and minors with military hardware is weird like that if you think too hard about it. Unless you wanna use minors like King Hamdo or the Arume. Oh and Italy's Social Welfare Agency.


Child soldiers are an every day occurrence, sadly, and you really don't see those narratives very often, especially not in anime, and especially not in historical ways.

The loss or absence of family, the success or failure in finding an artificial family, the false father and mother figures, killing like it's a game.

G&P is just flaccid, gratuitous violence teasing. It doesn't feel sincere or relatable at all.

What was that anime called... Gunslinger School? The "Italian Social Welfare" one.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:02 pm

The Rich Port wrote:What was that anime called... Gunslinger School? The "Italian Social Welfare" one.


Gunslinger Girl. The anime is mediocre; season 1 copies the style and feel real good but it only covers the characters' introductions. Season 2 is more loyal to a story arc but it sacrifices the manga's more realistic style for something more generic and moé.

The manga is a favorite of mine though, it really does build up on the tragedy of the characters' circumstances and makes a bittersweet ending for at least one of them...in some posthumous way.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:06 pm

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The Corparation wrote:Or they realize that most people who watch cute girls doing cute things show aren't looking for a gore fest and that such a thing would alienate most of the fanbase while also not selling.

I wasn't going into that show for CGDCT. I was expecting tank fights. And I never got them.

I came for the Tanks and Girls in that order. I stayed for the cute girls drifting the tanks.


The Rich Port wrote:G&P is just flaccid, gratuitous violence teasing. It doesn't feel sincere or relatable at all.

How the fuck is G&P " flaccid, gratuitous violence teasing?" If you strip it down to the core, it's literally just a simple cute girls sports anime and I think it's biggest strength is that it has never tried to be anything else. They've never really teased violence. Having tanks isn't teasing violence. You can strip the tanks out of Girls und Panzer and replace them with Baseball or any other team sport and you'd be able to have the same characters and story although It wouldn't be anywhere near as fun.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:07 pm

I dunno I just really wanna see General Butt Naked's Little Girls.

I would fucking join the Italian Social Welfare, dress in a dumb schoolgirl uniform, and assassinate multiple implied pedophiles to ensure that gets done.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:10 pm

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it's literally just a simple cute girls sports anime and I think it's biggest strength is that it has never tried to be anything else. They've never really teased violence. Having tanks isn't teasing violence. You can strip the tanks out of Girls und Panzer and replace them with Baseball or any other team sport and you'd be able to have the same characters and story although It wouldn't be anywhere near as fun


... Which, yeah, that is all exactly why I don't like it.

I wanna watch a sports anime, I'll watch a sports anime.

Well actually I won't watch a sports anime cuz they're fuckin' boring, but maybe I'll watch a sports anime where the little girls have to take steroids to stay relevant and then one of the little girls has CTE and murders her senpai, gets away with it because she's a cute girl, and is indicted for multiple animal abuse charges later on down the line.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:13 pm

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The Corparation wrote:it's literally just a simple cute girls sports anime and I think it's biggest strength is that it has never tried to be anything else. They've never really teased violence. Having tanks isn't teasing violence. You can strip the tanks out of Girls und Panzer and replace them with Baseball or any other team sport and you'd be able to have the same characters and story although It wouldn't be anywhere near as fun.


... Which, yeah, that is all exactly why I don't like it.

I wanna watch a sports anime, I'll watch a sports anime.

Well actually I won't watch a sports anime cuz they're fuckin' boring, but maybe I'll watch a sports anime where the little girls have to take steroids to stay relevant and then one of the little girls has CTE and murders her senpai, gets away with it because she's a cute girl, and is indicted for multiple animal abuse charges later on down the line.

I get that. It's fine to not want to watch a sports anime. What I don't understand is your fascination with wanting a sports anime with girls getting brained by tank shells.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:13 pm

The Rich Port wrote:I would fucking join the Italian Social Welfare, dress in a dumb schoolgirl uniform, and assassinate multiple implied pedophiles to ensure that gets done.


I thought the premise of the series was stupid until I read about the "Anni di Piombo" for a seminar on the Cold War. In some way or another, it's Rainbow Six or Munich but with lolis.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:28 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:I would fucking join the Italian Social Welfare, dress in a dumb schoolgirl uniform, and assassinate multiple implied pedophiles to ensure that gets done.


I thought the premise of the series was stupid until I read about the "Anni di Piombo" for a seminar on the Cold War. In some way or another, it's Rainbow Six or Munich but with lolis.


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... Which, yeah, that is all exactly why I don't like it.

I wanna watch a sports anime, I'll watch a sports anime.

Well actually I won't watch a sports anime cuz they're fuckin' boring, but maybe I'll watch a sports anime where the little girls have to take steroids to stay relevant and then one of the little girls has CTE and murders her senpai, gets away with it because she's a cute girl, and is indicted for multiple animal abuse charges later on down the line.

I get that. It's fine to not want to watch a sports anime. What I don't understand is your fascination with wanting a sports anime with girls getting brained by tank shells.


Because then the sports anime wouldn't be fuckin' boring, obviously. It would have stakes. It would have conflict. INTERESTING conflict.

Explain this to me: what are the stakes in G&P?

All of the danger I saw was implied and usually waved off as the tanks being fitted with safety measures. When the tanks fall in the water, the girls don't drown. Even in a gigantic explosion that should disintegrate the tanks and the people inside them, they survive. Even when a girl sticks her head out of the tank, it doesn't get taken off by a fuckin' low bridge.

I'm not bloodthirsty for the sake of being bloodthirsty. They don't all have to die, but one of them dying would add some much needed pathos and reality checks to the anime that would make it mean something beyond it being Lucky Star with tanks because tank aficionados want to see them.

Compare G&P with Initial D, shitty as some people think it is (I personally think it's fine). Sure, a lot of people like it for the cars, but the story also has a lot of weight to it. People who watched the anime when it first came out sincerely wondered if the protagonist was going to die, because racing is an indeed dangerous and ILLEGAL sport. On top of that, the characters have their own personal issues. One of the characters commits suicide because her boyfriend considered her a trophy he won in a race from the protagonist, for example. I'm pretty sure some people died on screen but I haven't seen the whole thing. It's also way closer to life and more relatable than tanks. Nobody has a tank. Everyone has a car.

It also has better music, but that's neither here nor there.
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:36 pm

The stakes in G&P are simple. If they lose the sports tournament, their school closes. It doesn't need higher stakes and is the sort of show which would suffer from higher stakes. Not every show needs to be or should be about matters of life and death.
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Postby Las Palmeras » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:39 pm

The Corparation wrote:The stakes in G&P are simple. If they lose the sports tournament, their school closes. It doesn't need higher stakes and is the sort of show which would suffer from higher stakes. Not every show needs to be or should be about matters of life and death.


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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:47 pm

The Corparation wrote:The stakes in G&P are simple. If they lose the sports tournament, their school closes. It doesn't need higher stakes and is the sort of show which would suffer from higher stakes. Not every show needs to be or should be about matters of life and death.


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No, it definitely needs more stakes.

If I were the fucking Secretary of Education and they were fucking just genociding money on this dumb bullshit I would close this fuckin' retarded school too. Gymnastics at least lets people SEE the panty shots unless they have upskirt cameras in-universe installed in the tanks.

It's not even like this dumb tank shit is going to matter in the future unless they're training the girls for war, in which case, you enjoying a spectacle of war is even more insidious and contrary to your point.
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Postby Lubyak » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:33 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Corparation wrote:The stakes in G&P are simple. If they lose the sports tournament, their school closes. It doesn't need higher stakes and is the sort of show which would suffer from higher stakes. Not every show needs to be or should be about matters of life and death.


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No, it definitely needs more stakes.

If I were the fucking Secretary of Education and they were fucking just genociding money on this dumb bullshit I would close this fuckin' retarded school too. Gymnastics at least lets people SEE the panty shots unless they have upskirt cameras in-universe installed in the tanks.

It's not even like this dumb tank shit is going to matter in the future unless they're training the girls for war, in which case, you enjoying a spectacle of war is even more insidious and contrary to your point.


I'm not entirely convinced this isn't an April Fool's Joke carried on far too long.

Like, fine you don't like the show, but fundamentally it seems you want the show to be something it's absolutely not. It's like complaining that Evangelion doesn't spend enough time fighting giant monsters, or that K-On! doesn't delve into the horrors of teen drug use. Girls und Panzer is exactly what it presents itself as: a CGDCT sports anime where the gimmick is the sport is tank fighting. That's all it ever presented itself as being and it gave me what I wanted.

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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:43 pm

Lubyak wrote: It's like complaining that Evangelion doesn't spend enough time fighting giant monsters.

Seeing as Eva is a show about kids piloting mecha to fight giant monsters I think this is a valid complaint. Yes the show is more complicated than that, but I've always felt that the fights with the angel's were the best part of Eva. And not just because of the action. I think all of my favorite character interactions and developments were in the fight scenes. That said, I think Eva did strike a good balance of fights to non-fights, I just don't think the non-fight bits were executed anywhere near as well as the fight scenes.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:39 pm

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No, it definitely needs more stakes.

If I were the fucking Secretary of Education and they were fucking just genociding money on this dumb bullshit I would close this fuckin' retarded school too. Gymnastics at least lets people SEE the panty shots unless they have upskirt cameras in-universe installed in the tanks.

It's not even like this dumb tank shit is going to matter in the future unless they're training the girls for war, in which case, you enjoying a spectacle of war is even more insidious and contrary to your point.

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Because then the sports anime wouldn't be fuckin' boring, obviously. It would have stakes. It would have conflict. INTERESTING conflict.

Explain this to me: what are the stakes in G&P?

All of the danger I saw was implied and usually waved off as the tanks being fitted with safety measures. When the tanks fall in the water, the girls don't drown. Even in a gigantic explosion that should disintegrate the tanks and the people inside them, they survive. Even when a girl sticks her head out of the tank, it doesn't get taken off by a fuckin' low bridge.

I'm not bloodthirsty for the sake of being bloodthirsty. They don't all have to die, but one of them dying would add some much needed pathos and reality checks to the anime that would make it mean something beyond it being Lucky Star with tanks because tank aficionados want to see them.

Compare G&P with Initial D, shitty as some people think it is (I personally think it's fine). Sure, a lot of people like it for the cars, but the story also has a lot of weight to it. People who watched the anime when it first came out sincerely wondered if the protagonist was going to die, because racing is an indeed dangerous and ILLEGAL sport. On top of that, the characters have their own personal issues. One of the characters commits suicide because her boyfriend considered her a trophy he won in a race from the protagonist, for example. I'm pretty sure some people died on screen but I haven't seen the whole thing. It's also way closer to life and more relatable than tanks. Nobody has a tank. Everyone has a car.

It also has better music, but that's neither here nor there.

The Rich Port wrote:Well actually I won't watch a sports anime cuz they're fuckin' boring, but maybe I'll watch a sports anime where the little girls have to take steroids to stay relevant and then one of the little girls has CTE and murders her senpai, gets away with it because she's a cute girl, and is indicted for multiple animal abuse charges later on down the line.

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Child soldiers are an every day occurrence, sadly, and you really don't see those narratives very often, especially not in anime, and especially not in historical ways.

The loss or absence of family, the success or failure in finding an artificial family, the false father and mother figures, killing like it's a game.

G&P is just flaccid, gratuitous violence teasing. It doesn't feel sincere or relatable at all.

What was that anime called... Gunslinger School? The "Italian Social Welfare" one.

The Rich Port wrote:Why even fucking bother with the pretense.

It's like they tried to be edgelords but then they shaved down the edge until it was blunt.

If you're going to be an edgelord, go full edgelord. Go Death Note.

Girls und Panzer is just a gimmick.

lol, I've never seen somebody so upset over an anime not being edgy garbage.

I'm sorry, but the problem isn't that it told a story you didn't want to hear. The problem is you think it should've told the story you wanted to hear.
Ameriganastan wrote:I wasn't going into that show for CGDCT. I was expecting tank fights. And I never got them.

>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:35 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I wasn't going into that show for CGDCT. I was expecting tank fights. And I never got them.

>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?

They probably wanted "realistic" tank fights.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:40 pm

The Corparation wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?

They probably wanted "realistic" tank fights.

I've got just the anime for that if that's what they want.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:59 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?

He. I am not a they.

And I saw no tank fights in the one episode I suffered through. It was false advertising.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:26 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?

He. I am not a they.

Don't bother, I'll probably forget by the end of the week.

And I saw no tank fights in the one episode I suffered through. It was false advertising.

Seriously? You're saying there are no tank fights based on a single episode?

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Postby The Corparation » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:33 am

Ameriganastan wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>There's a tank fight like every other episode
>The movie ramps up the tank fights to ludicrous degrees
>"Where are the tank fights?"
What did they mean by this?

He. I am not a they.

And I saw no tank fights in the one episode I suffered through. It was false advertising.

The show literally starts with a short scene from a tank battle and while it doesn't get back to that scene till a few episodes later, the show needed the time to introduce the characters and set up the story.

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Corparation wrote:They probably wanted "realistic" tank fights.

I've got just the anime for that if that's what they want.

Not an anime, but here's Tigers in the Mud a manga by Miyazake about the exploits of German tank commander Otto Carius on the Eastern Front
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