The Doctor Who Discussion Thread and Fan Club

[Nationstatelandsville]

Well, the writing staff changes all the time.

Truthfully, though, a lot more of Tennant's episodes were absolute shit than Smith's.

I guess. The end of Series 3 *shudders*

But then he also had some absolutely exemplary episodes to work with, which I don't think Smith has gotten. He's had some decent to alright ones, a lot of mediocre ones and more than a few absolute rubbish ones.

The tone of the writing style has gotten darker but the age of the writing has gotten younger, for me.

I think, overall, Moffat-era episodes have been good with a few great and a few mediocre ones.

I prefer that to the wild fluctuating between blow-your-mind fantastic and horrendous (mainly horrendous) that was rampant in the Davies-era, many of those really bad ones supplied by Davies himself.

[DesAnges]

I guess. The end of Series 3 *shudders*

But then he also had some absolutely exemplary episodes to work with, which I don't think Smith has gotten. He's had some decent to alright ones, a lot of mediocre ones and more than a few absolute rubbish ones.

The tone of the writing style has gotten darker but the age of the writing has gotten younger, for me.

I think, overall, Moffat-era episodes have been good with a few great and a few mediocre ones.

I prefer that to the wild fluctuating between blow-your-mind fantastic and horrendous (mainly horrendous) that was rampant in the Davies-era, many of those really bad ones supplied by Davies himself.

I try and forget the shite RTD ones.

Who wrote Father's Day? More like that, please. And let Moffat write something truly scary again, Empty Child-style.

Some Impossible Planet stuff wouldn't go amiss either.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I think, overall, Moffat-era episodes have been good with a few great and a few mediocre ones.

I prefer that to the wild fluctuating between blow-your-mind fantastic and horrendous (mainly horrendous) that was rampant in the Davies-era, many of those really bad ones supplied by Davies himself.

I try and forget the shite RTD ones.

Who wrote Father's Day? More like that, please. And let Moffat write something truly scary again, Empty Child-style.

Some Impossible Planet stuff wouldn't go amiss either.

I wasn't really impressed with either Father's Day or Impossible Planet, actually.

[DesAnges]

I try and forget the shite RTD ones.

Who wrote Father's Day? More like that, please. And let Moffat write something truly scary again, Empty Child-style.

Some Impossible Planet stuff wouldn't go amiss either.

I wasn't really impressed with either Father's Day or Impossible Planet, actually.

Fair enough. Opinions, gotta love 'em

But I really just want some more Eccleston. Some Claude-from-Heroes Eccleston...

[Wisconsin9]

I guess. The end of Series 3 *shudders*

The End of Series 3 In A Nutshell:

"Oh, hey, wow, this is awesome, wow, this is cool, wait, time-lord killing gun, that's weird, enh, I'll go with it, oh, hey, this is cool WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ARE YOU SERIOUS"

I thought that the series 3 finale was awesome, and then they threw in telepathic Doctor God and it completely fucking ruined it. I mean, three episodes of build-up for a crappy deus ex machina.

Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

[Nationstatelandsville]

I wasn't really impressed with either Father's Day or Impossible Planet, actually.

Fair enough. Opinions, gotta love 'em

But I really just want some more Eccleston. Some Claude-from-Heroes Eccleston...

Never saw Heroes, but more Eccleston is always good.

I just felt that Impossible Planet was incredibly formulaic. They really dropped the ball with the Devil, too - showing him was a massive mistake.

Father's Day was sweet, I guess, but incredibly predictable and had a completely tensionless plot. I also felt that the bit where the TARDIS was just a phone booth was incredibly over-dramatic. It was written by Paul Cornell, by the way, who also wrote Human Nature/Family of Blood, another episode I wasn't quite pleased with.

[DesAnges]

The End of Series 3 In A Nutshell:

"Oh, hey, wow, this is awesome, wow, this is cool, wait, time-lord killing gun, that's weird, enh, I'll go with it, oh, hey, this is cool WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ARE YOU SERIOUS"

I thought that the series 3 finale was awesome, and then they threw in telepathic Doctor God and it completely fucking ruined it. I mean, three episodes of build-up for a crappy deus ex machina.

Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

Exactly what I meant.

[Nationstatelandsville]

The End of Series 3 In A Nutshell:

"Oh, hey, wow, this is awesome, wow, this is cool, wait, time-lord killing gun, that's weird, enh, I'll go with it, oh, hey, this is cool WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ARE YOU SERIOUS"

I thought that the series 3 finale was awesome, and then they threw in telepathic Doctor God and it completely fucking ruined it. I mean, three episodes of build-up for a crappy deus ex machina.

Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

To be fair, he wrote himself into a corner.

Also to be fair, only an idiot does that.

[DesAnges]

Fair enough. Opinions, gotta love 'em

But I really just want some more Eccleston. Some Claude-from-Heroes Eccleston...

Never saw Heroes, but more Eccleston is always good.

I just felt that Impossible Planet was incredibly formulaic. They really dropped the ball with the Devil, too - showing him was a massive mistake.

Father's Day was sweet, I guess, but incredibly predictable and had a completely tensionless plot. I also felt that the bit where the TARDIS was just a phone booth was incredibly over-dramatic. It was written by Paul Cornell, by the way, who also wrote Human Nature/Family of Blood, another episode I wasn't quite pleased with.

Watch the first series, accept shit happens in between, watch the 4th series. Done.

That series needed a bit of actual sweetness (as opposed to saccharine), given it was going up against the cheesiness of Harkness and the brooding darkness of the Doctor. Besides, only truly noble action by any character other than the Doctor in the whole series (from memory, feel free to correct me).

Family of Blood was better than Human Nature, Human Nature had too much of that irritating twat sniffing.

Impossible Planet, good. The second part of that story, bad. *nods*

[Wisconsin9]

I thought that the series 3 finale was awesome, and then they threw in telepathic Doctor God and it completely fucking ruined it. I mean, three episodes of build-up for a crappy deus ex machina.

Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

To be fair, he wrote himself into a corner.

Also to be fair, only an idiot does that.

To be honest, I would have preferred if there actually had been the gun in four parts. It would still be bullshit, but it would at least be halfway decent and somewhat plausible bullshit. Better yet, there should have been some kind of rebellion.

[Nationstatelandsville]

To be fair, he wrote himself into a corner.

Also to be fair, only an idiot does that.

To be honest, I would have preferred if there actually had been the gun in four parts. It would still be bullshit, but it would at least be halfway decent and somewhat plausible bullshit. Better yet, there should have been some kind of rebellion.

Or the gun was still a trap, but they used to lure the Master into the Paradox Machine or something, holding him hostage by threatening to overload it. A good half-hour could be spent on the Master trying to psyche Martha out, all while the Doctor reverses the incredibly stupid aging thing the Master did to him.

That would have been awesome.

[DesAnges]

To be fair, he wrote himself into a corner.

Also to be fair, only an idiot does that.

To be honest, I would have preferred if there actually had been the gun in four parts. It would still be bullshit, but it would at least be halfway decent and somewhat plausible bullshit. Better yet, there should have been some kind of rebellion.

A rebellion, led by the Torchwood team. That would have been plausible, and a better chance for a crossover.[/color]

[Wisconsin9]

To be honest, I would have preferred if there actually had been the gun in four parts. It would still be bullshit, but it would at least be halfway decent and somewhat plausible bullshit. Better yet, there should have been some kind of rebellion.

A rebellion, led by the Torchwood team. That would have been plausible, and a better chance for a crossover.[/color]

Oh, yes. T'would have been epic.

And you know, there's something I've been wondering about the whole "Turn Left" thing. The Doctor was killed when he should have met Donna, and Martha died at the hospital on the moon, which means neither the Doctor nor Martha could go back in time and stop the Carrionites from destroying humankind during the Elizabethan era, which would have caused a paradox in that the Doctor would have had no need to stop the Racnoss and get killed while doing so.

[DesAnges]

A rebellion, led by the Torchwood team. That would have been plausible, and a better chance for a crossover.[/color]

Oh, yes. T'would have been epic.

And you know, there's something I've been wondering about the whole "Turn Left" thing. The Doctor was killed when he should have met Donna, and Martha died at the hospital on the moon, which means neither the Doctor nor Martha could go back in time and stop the Carrionites from destroying humankind during the Elizabethan era, which would have caused a paradox in that the Doctor would have had no need to stop the Racnoss and get killed while doing so.

'Turn Left' was just a bad idea all round really.

[Nationstatelandsville]

A rebellion, led by the Torchwood team. That would have been plausible, and a better chance for a crossover.[/color]

Oh, yes. T'would have been epic.

And you know, there's something I've been wondering about the whole "Turn Left" thing. The Doctor was killed when he should have met Donna, and Martha died at the hospital on the moon, which means neither the Doctor nor Martha could go back in time and stop the Carrionites from destroying humankind during the Elizabethan era, which would have caused a paradox in that the Doctor would have had no need to stop the Racnoss and get killed while doing so.

Shakespeare saved the day all by himself, because fuck you.

[Fedeledland]

The End of Series 3 In A Nutshell:

"Oh, hey, wow, this is awesome, wow, this is cool, wait, time-lord killing gun, that's weird, enh, I'll go with it, oh, hey, this is cool WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ARE YOU SERIOUS"

I thought that the series 3 finale was awesome, and then they threw in telepathic Doctor God and it completely fucking ruined it. I mean, three episodes of build-up for a crappy deus ex machina.

Fuck you, RTD. Fuck you.

To be fair, RTD tends to have all of the episode be consistently awesome and then ruin the last 15 minutes in most bad episodes. It's not bad as some of the entirely inconsistent stories (most of which are RTD, mind you... I'm also seeing you, Next Doctor), since at least you're entertained over most of the episode.

Oh, yes. T'would have been epic.

And you know, there's something I've been wondering about the whole "Turn Left" thing. The Doctor was killed when he should have met Donna, and Martha died at the hospital on the moon, which means neither the Doctor nor Martha could go back in time and stop the Carrionites from destroying humankind during the Elizabethan era, which would have caused a paradox in that the Doctor would have had no need to stop the Racnoss and get killed while doing so.

'Turn Left' was just a bad idea all round really.

Turn Left was incredibly shortsighted, but it was a good episode.

To be honest, I would have preferred if there actually had been the gun in four parts. It would still be bullshit, but it would at least be halfway decent and somewhat plausible bullshit. Better yet, there should have been some kind of rebellion.

This. The rebellion would also have had an effect on the Doctor if it's led by Martha, since it could've had Martha directly into Torchwood, which would be far more awesome than working with shUNIT.

[Nagnarok]

Official Doctor Who crossover with Star Trek:

http://www.startrek.com/article/idws-tn ... due-in-may

MUATHFUACKING AWESOME!

Picard and the Doctor. Two of my favorite characters.

[Wisconsin9]

Official Doctor Who crossover with Star Trek:

http://www.startrek.com/article/idws-tn ... due-in-may

MUATHFUACKING AWESOME!

Picard and the Doctor. Two of my favorite characters.

You'd think that the Borg and the Cybermen would fight a war over who gets the honor of assimilating the unlucky mother-hubbard. Or maybe the Cybermen will take the humans and the Borg will get everything else.

[AETEN II]

MUATHFUACKING AWESOME!

Picard and the Doctor. Two of my favorite characters.

You'd think that the Borg and the Cybermen would fight a war over who gets the honor of assimilating the unlucky mother-hubbard. Or maybe the Cybermen will take the humans and the Borg will get everything else.

Cybermen would assimilate the Borg. Why? Because you can't kill a cyberman with a fucking sword.

[The Corparation]

You'd think that the Borg and the Cybermen would fight a war over who gets the honor of assimilating the unlucky mother-hubbard. Or maybe the Cybermen will take the humans and the Borg will get everything else.

Cybermen would assimilate the Borg. Why? Because you can't kill a cyberman with a fucking sword.

Borg Nanoprobes. They Assimilate much faster then Cybermen can.And while they can be stopped by a sword, a diffrent dron can easily reach out grab your sword arm and assimilate you on the spot as you swing at its fellow.

[AETEN II]

Cybermen would assimilate the Borg. Why? Because you can't kill a cyberman with a fucking sword.

Borg Nanoprobes. They Assimilate much faster then Cybermen can.And while they can be stopped by a sword, a diffrent dron can easily reach out grab your sword arm and assimilate you on the spot as you swing at its fellow.

This is why I would bring a pole-ax.

I've always found it hilarious that you could beat the Borg by teleporting Knights onto the Borg ships. Just use bows and arrows.

[Wisconsin9]

Just finished Mercy. Kind of meh episode. I like how it's moving away from the black-and-white morality of the earlier episodes—Daleks/Cybermen/Sontarans/other generic alien invaders are bad, humans are good—and I think that #11 is beginning to feel guilty about the Time War. I mean, I know he's already felt guilty about it as #9 and 10, but this is the first we're really starting to see it in this regeneration.

[The Corparation]

Borg Nanoprobes. They Assimilate much faster then Cybermen can.And while they can be stopped by a sword, a diffrent dron can easily reach out grab your sword arm and assimilate you on the spot as you swing at its fellow.

This is why I would bring a pole-ax.

I've always found it hilarious that you could beat the Borg by teleporting Knights onto the Borg ships. Just use bows and arrows.

Then they just fall back and destroy your ship. And teleporting a knight onto a Borg vessel would go badly. They'd juts swarm it until one of them could grab it and inject the nanoprobes.

[DesAnges]

Watching City Of Death from the Tom Baker years.

This is superb.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Watching City Of Death from the Tom Baker years.

This is superb.

Wonderful episode, once I became accustomed to Baker.

It took some adjustment to get used to his... Bakerness.