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by **Linux and the X** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:00 pm

It's quite unfortunate that people don't know who Lady Christina de Souza is.

by **Britannic Realms** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:05 am

Fedeledland wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:I'm losing faith in Doctor Who. The plots are getting worse and worse and more and more anti-climatic. I blame Steven Moffat.

You blame Moffat for bad writing and anti-climatic endings? Could you please re-watch the last 15 minutes of Last of the Time Lords and tell that to me again?

The quality of episodes has gone more and more downhill since Russel T Davies left. Instead of being original plots with decent aliens they've just taken films and turned them into crappy remakes.

I suppose it doesn't help that the actors they've got these days are pretty bad.
I used to watch Doctor Who every Saturday. All of the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's stories.

by **AETEN II** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:37 am

Ende wrote:I'm watching Dinosaurs on a Spaceship now.

That was some pretty impressive exposition they had there.

Rory's dad is awesome, and almost redeems the shitty plots we've been getting.

by **Dimoniquid** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:36 am

http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-peter-jackson/

I just found this while wandering around the tubez. I don't really think you can measure up to fifty years of epicness just by grabbing a flash-director (Peter Jackson, FTW) and making a series. What do you guys think?

by **AETEN II** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:58 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-peter-jackson/

I just found this while wandering around the tubez. I don't really think you can measure up to fifty years of epicness just by grabbing a flash-director (Peter Jackson, FTW) and making a series. What do you guys think?

I want a movie, not an episode. Then again, if Peter Jackson did a Doctor Who movie, the world would likely be destroyed by its epicness.

by **Nationstatelandsville** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:44 pm

Dimoniquid wrote:http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-peter-jackson/

I just found this while wandering around the tubez. I don't really think you can measure up to fifty years of epicness just by grabbing a flash-director (Peter Jackson, FTW) and making a series. What do you guys think?

If Jackson can write a decent plot, it would be good.

Problem is that I doubt he and Moffat can co-operate, given what has already come of this "relationship".

by **Fedeledland** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:13 pm

Britannic Realms wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
You blame Moffat for bad writing and anti-climatic endings? Could you please re-watch the last 15 minutes of Last of the Time Lords and tell that to me again?

The quality of episodes has gone more and more downhill since Russel T Davies left. Instead of being original plots with decent aliens they've just taken films and turned them into crappy remakes.
And the cube one was bloody awful. Small black cubes which give people heart attacks? Really? And then he went aboard the ship had a talk with a hologram and instantly solved everything. How is that climatic?

I suppose it doesn't help that the actors they've got these days are pretty bad.
I used to watch Doctor Who every Saturday. All of the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's stories.

Once again, can you kindly rewatch the "Jesus Doctor" scene? Or, for that matter, Love and Monsters? God, the writing hasn't gotten worse; Doctor Who always has some bad episodes.

by **Wisconsin9** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:18 pm

Fedeledland wrote:
Britannic Realms wrote:
The quality of episodes has gone more and more downhill since Russel T Davies left. Instead of being original plots with decent aliens they've just taken films and turned them into crappy remakes.
And the cube one was bloody awful. Small black cubes which give people heart attacks? Really? And then he went aboard the ship had a talk with a hologram and instantly solved everything. How is that climatic?

I suppose it doesn't help that the actors they've got these days are pretty bad.
I used to watch Doctor Who every Saturday. All of the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's stories.

Once again, can you kindly rewatch the "Jesus Doctor" scene? Or, for that matter, Love and Monsters? God, the writing hasn't gotten worse; Doctor Who always has some bad episodes.

Love and Monsters wasn't that bad. If you want a truly terrible episode, then I recommend The Next Doctor.

by **Nationstatelandsville** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:23 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
Once again, can you kindly rewatch the "Jesus Doctor" scene? Or, for that matter, Love and Monsters? God, the writing hasn't gotten worse; Doctor Who always has some bad episodes.
Love and Monsters wasn't that bad. If you want a truly terrible episode, then I recommend The Next Doctor.

Love and Monsters existed solely to make the viewer uncomfortable.

The Next Doctor existed as a prequel to the day when Davies leads the armies of Hell and destroys Heaven.

by **DesAnges** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:28 pm

I have no more to say about it.

by **Astrolinium** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:30 pm

Fedeledland wrote:Love and Monsters

I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

by **Nationstatelandsville** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:38 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:Love and Monsters

I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

by **Fedeledland** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:43 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Love and Monsters wasn't that bad. If you want a truly terrible episode, then I recommend The Next Doctor.

Love and Monsters existed solely to make the viewer uncomfortable.

The Next Doctor existed as a prequel to the day when Davies leads the armies of Hell and destroys Heaven.

I absolutely forgot about Next Doctor. That's not a prequel, that's just the amount of horror and terrible writing that our human puny minds could watch. In reality, Next Doctor was a mirror of the Time War.

by **Astrolinium** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:43 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

That one wasn't quite as bad, if only because it didn't feel so horribly out-of-place.
Like, when I was watching Love and Monsters my mom walked out and saw the TV and said, "I knew you'd have to take a break from Doctor Who eventually!"

by **Nationstatelandsville** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:59 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

That one wasn't quite as bad, if only because it didn't feel so horribly out-of-place.
Like, when I was watching Love and Monsters my mom walked out and saw the TV and said, "I knew you'd have to take a break from Doctor Who eventually!"

Not to mention that the supporting cast (the lead wasn't too bad) were absolutely miserable.

Let's not even pretend the special effects department gave a shit that day.

by **Nationstatelandsville** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:22 pm

by **DesAnges** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:41 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
That one wasn't quite as bad, if only because it didn't feel so horribly out-of-place.
Like, when I was watching Love and Monsters my mom walked out and saw the TV and said, "I knew you'd have to take a break from Doctor Who eventually!"

Not to mention that the supporting cast (the lead wasn't too bad) were absolutely miserable.

Let's not even pretend the special effects department gave a shit that day.

Hey hey hey, leave Marc Warren out of this.

by **Wisconsin9** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:46 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

I sort of liked that one. Except for the paradox.

by **Fedeledland** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:00 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

I sort of liked that one. Except for the paradox.

I actually quite liked it.

Dimoniquid wrote:http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-peter-jackson/

I just found this while wandering around the tubez. I don't really think you can measure up to fifty years of epicness just by grabbing a flash-director (Peter Jackson, FTW) and making a series. What do you guys think?

...Woah, Sylvester McCoy is in The Hobbit?!

by **Astrolinium** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:01 pm

Fedeledland wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:http://www.themarysue.com/doctor-who-peter-jackson/

I just found this while wandering around the tubez. I don't really think you can measure up to fifty years of epicness just by grabbing a flash-director (Peter Jackson, FTW) and making a series. What do you guys think?

...Woah, Sylvester McCoy is in The Hobbit?!

As Radagast the Brown, isn't he?

by **Aqizithiuda** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:16 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
...Woah, Sylvester McCoy is in The Hobbit?!

As Radagast the Brown, isn't he?

Yep. He was also the second choice for Bilbo in the LoTR.

by **The Corparation** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:18 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Fedeledland wrote:
...Woah, Sylvester McCoy is in The Hobbit?!

As Radagast the Brown, isn't he?

A.K.A the slacker hippie Istari. The one who went off to live with the animals rather than do his job and help the Children of Ilúvatar. Honestly one of my favorite characters.

by **JuNii** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:40 pm

Nationstatelandsville wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
I may never willingly listen to ELO since I was subjected to Love and Monsters.
Which, admittedly, is not a huge loss, as the number of times I'd willingly listened to ELO before seeing that episode was 0.

Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

I beg to differ.. "blink" was awsome... and a wonderful way to introduce someone to the doctor.

Turn Left was a clip show trying not to be a clip show.

I hated 'Mercy'. when has the doctor ever tried to get someone killed. Christopher Eccleson's Dr was the one born of war and conflict and even he gave the 'bad guys' a second chance.

David Tennant offered his hand to Skarro...

and Mat SMith tries to kill a man trying to redeem his life.... WTF?!?!

by **Astrolinium** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:10 am

JuNii wrote:I beg to differ.. "blink" was awsome... and a wonderful way to introduce someone to the doctor.

I honestly didn't even notice that Blink was Doctor-lite while I was watching it. I was too busy noticing how awesome the Weeping Angels are.

by **Aqizithiuda** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:56 am

JuNii wrote:
Nationstatelandsville wrote:Honestly, the Doctor-lite episodes are universally god-awful - even Turn Left, which was so promising.

I beg to differ.. "blink" was awsome... and a wonderful way to introduce someone to the doctor.

Turn Left was a clip show trying not to be a clip show.

I hated 'Mercy'. when has the doctor ever tried to get someone killed. Christopher Eccleson's Dr was the one born of war and conflict and even he gave the 'bad guys' a second chance.

David Tennant offered his hand to Skarro...

and Mat SMith tries to kill a man trying to redeem his life.... WTF?!?!

No one, apart from the caveman whose head he attempted to bash in because it was in his way, the Ice Warriors he killed with a heat ray, the Ogron who was in his way/attempting to kill him (the first is what happened in the episode, the second what was meant to happen), Goth (in an absolutely brutal fight) and at least one guy who he managed to trick into committing suicide.

Also relevant: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=lzmnPs64 ... zmnPs64K74

Still, it is true that the current Doctor is acting a but out of character. I suspect that there's a reason for that, and that Oswin is somehow involved.

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