Computer General Discussion Thread

[Nordengrund]

Okay, I can’t get Internet on my laptop. The network I’m supposed to connect is not showing up, but my phone is currently connected to it. Is there anything I can do.?

I don’t use an Ethernet cable or anything like that.

Have you tried running Windows Network Diagnostics (if you're on Windows)? This sometimes happens to me and WND fixes the problem, which is an invalid IP configuration. It resets the adapter, which is easy enough without using it, but it's slightly more convenient that way.
If that doesn't work, try running cmd as admin and enter "netsh winsock reset" and reboot.

I have, though I’ve attempted it one more time to make sure. I’m thinking about trying a Metwork Reset, though. I’ll use the cmd as a last resort.

[Valentine Z]

YAS!

New keyboard part arrived ahead of schedule. It also lights up, which was missing from the built-in KB that came with my laptop.

Note to self - when playing Overwatch or some game, use an external keyboard as much as possible.

[Minoa]

YAS!

New keyboard part arrived ahead of schedule. It also lights up, which was missing from the built-in KB that came with my laptop.

Note to self - when playing Overwatch or some game, use an external keyboard as much as possible.

I would be content with a keyboard that lights up like that of a MacBook Pro, rather than a one that makes me look like a Dubstep mixer or something.

[Alanis Star]

YAS!

New keyboard part arrived ahead of schedule. It also lights up, which was missing from the built-in KB that came with my laptop.

Note to self - when playing Overwatch or some game, use an external keyboard as much as possible.

I would be content with a keyboard that lights up like that of a MacBook Pro, rather than a one that makes me look like a Dubstep mixer or something.

Ah, yep, it does light up like a MacBook, with just the white light itself. Has 2 adjustable brightness.

[Industrial Republics]

I would be content with a keyboard that lights up like that of a MacBook Pro, rather than a one that makes me look like a Dubstep mixer or something.

Ah, yep, it does light up like a MacBook, with just the white light itself. Has 2 adjustable brightness.

Ain't nothing wrong with a RGB keyboard.

[Saiwania]

Choosing PC parts should be a challenge and choosing an OS should have been a breeze, but now it is the other way round. I use apps (like Max) that work only on Windows in general, but there is little to no justification for me to go for Windows 10 when there are so many bugs and privacy scares. On the other hand, the venerable Windows 7 is not supported on Intel Core i7-8700K, and will be retired in 2020.

The harsh truth is that after 2020, you'll probably have no choice but to get Windows 10 and do your own configurations and workarounds or accept the OS as is. That is just what is going to be having future support. If Windows 10 is bad, it isn't bad by design but primarily because of what decisions Microsoft is making with regards to it.

The only alternatives will be migrating to the Apple or Linux world. With both you'd need to put up with not using common or popular software which is made for Windows. With Apple you get a closed system with Apple software, that runs on Apple products or hardware. With Linux nearly everything is open source. Consequently, there are too many flavors of Linux to choose from. If you opt for Linux, there is even more of a steep learning curve; but it can be done. Nothing better for servers.

[Minoa]

Choosing PC parts should be a challenge and choosing an OS should have been a breeze, but now it is the other way round. I use apps (like Max) that work only on Windows in general, but there is little to no justification for me to go for Windows 10 when there are so many bugs and privacy scares. On the other hand, the venerable Windows 7 is not supported on Intel Core i7-8700K, and will be retired in 2020.

The harsh truth is that after 2020, you'll probably have no choice but to get Windows 10 and do your own configurations and workarounds or accept the OS as is. That is just what is going to be having future support. If Windows 10 is bad, it isn't bad by design but primarily because of what decisions Microsoft is making with regards to it.

The only alternatives will be migrating to the Apple or Linux world. With both you'd need to put up with not using common or popular software which is made for Windows. With Apple you get a closed system with Apple software, that runs on Apple products or hardware. With Linux nearly everything is open source. Consequently, there are too many flavors of Linux to choose from. If you opt for Linux, there is even more of a steep learning curve; but it can be done. Nothing better for servers.

I am looking at Windows 10 LTSC 2019, which comes with 10 years of support and full Group Policy capabilities, and will take care of most of the privacy issues. It is not what Microsoft wants us to use, but tough luck for them.

Fortunately, macOS is my main operating system for my laptop, and Linux Ubuntu is the planned operating system for my planned map server,* because OpenStreetMap uses Ubuntu for their servers.

* If I make it past March 2019, that is.

[Corrian]

For those who keep up with things, do any of you see any indication that 1080 ti's will get much cheaper for a while? I know prices seemed like they were coming down, but it seems like the opposite is happening now.

I was pondering getting one, but I'm not that big on spending $1,000 for a graphics card. Even $600 is a lot for me but I'm more willing for that range.

[Minoa]

For those who keep up with things, do any of you see any indication that 1080 ti's will get much cheaper for a while? I know prices seemed like they were coming down, but it seems like the opposite is happening now.

I was pondering getting one, but I'm not that big on spending $1,000 for a graphics card. Even $600 is a lot for me but I'm more willing for that range.

The RTX 2080 is actually very young, only two months old. Then, there are the builders opting for one generation behind, which creates demand for the GTX 1080 stock. So much so that some cards are going for more than what I paid for the RTX 2080 (£745).

Bear in mind that in the long term, the GPU prices will likely fall in real terms due to the cryptocurrency craze wearing thin. Bitcoin is currently trading at around €3,745 — a far, far, far, far cry from last year’s high of around €16,548. This means that miners who spend thousands on GPUs last year have to rely on transaction fees to stay in the black. In my case, I bought a RTX because I run games in virtual machines, and also 3D modelling.

[Corrian]

So my friend suggested I get a 1070 ti because it's not much different or very slightly better than a 1080 and around the same price if not a little cheaper. Seems tempting. But I'm curious what brands you guys think are best? My current one is a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060, but there are like ASUS, Zotac, Evga, and so on, and I'm not sure what ones best as I found a super cheap Zotac but I know nothing about their reliability.

[Cekoviu]

So my friend suggested I get a 1070 ti because it's not much different or very slightly better than a 1080 and around the same price if not a little cheaper. Seems tempting. But I'm curious what brands you guys think are best? My current one is a Gigabyte Nvidia GTX 1060, but there are like ASUS, Zotac, Evga, and so on, and I'm not sure what ones best as I found a super cheap Zotac but I know nothing about their reliability.

Gigabyte board quality seems to be top-notch based on my motherboard, but I don't know how they are with GPUs. EVGA is my brand of choice for graphics cards. Zotac doesn't seem terrible to my knowledge, but they're not as high-quality as EVGA.

[Tekania]

For those who keep up with things, do any of you see any indication that 1080 ti's will get much cheaper for a while? I know prices seemed like they were coming down, but it seems like the opposite is happening now.

I was pondering getting one, but I'm not that big on spending $1,000 for a graphics card. Even $600 is a lot for me but I'm more willing for that range.

There are no new chips being manufactured, and existing boards are just what is left of the tiny existing stock, as such you will not really see any new cheap 1080TI boards on the market. Though we are likely to see a flood of used mining hardware hit the market.

[Seraven]

For those who keep up with things, do any of you see any indication that 1080 ti's will get much cheaper for a while? I know prices seemed like they were coming down, but it seems like the opposite is happening now.

I was pondering getting one, but I'm not that big on spending $1,000 for a graphics card. Even $600 is a lot for me but I'm more willing for that range.

There are no new chips being manufactured, and existing boards are just what is left of the tiny existing stock, as such you will not really see any new cheap 1080TI boards on the market. Though we are likely to see a flood of used mining hardware hit the market.

Why there are no new chips being manufactured?

[Cekoviu]

There are no new chips being manufactured, and existing boards are just what is left of the tiny existing stock, as such you will not really see any new cheap 1080TI boards on the market. Though we are likely to see a flood of used mining hardware hit the market.

Why there are no new chips being manufactured?

They're on a new generation now and it's not very profitable to manufacture old chips.

[Tekania]

Why there are no new chips being manufactured?

They're on a new generation now and it's not very profitable to manufacture old chips.

Yep, while it is common to see previous generation cards still getting manufactured after the release of new generation, this is generally because the chip manufacturer typically has reserve stock of GPUs for those cards manufacturers... Not this time however with specifically 1080TI' simply because when nVidia shifted production in their lines for hte new GPU on the 2080's, there was no reserve stock of 104-400 and 410 GPUs used in the 1080TI cards to allow manufactured to keep making them.

It an unfortunate side effect of the GPU mining craze that happened. This lack of reserve stock is also what is keeping the 1080TI's prices up so high even as the other cards prices are dropping with the drop in the mining boom. You're better off thinking about a 2080 or 2070TI than a 1080TI in the near future as the former is likely to become more affordable.

[Industrial Republics]

They're on a new generation now and it's not very profitable to manufacture old chips.

Yep, while it is common to see previous generation cards still getting manufactured after the release of new generation, this is generally because the chip manufacturer typically has reserve stock of GPUs for those cards manufacturers... Not this time however with specifically 1080TI' simply because when nVidia shifted production in their lines for hte new GPU on the 2080's, there was no reserve stock of 104-400 and 410 GPUs used in the 1080TI cards to allow manufactured to keep making them.

It an unfortunate side effect of the GPU mining craze that happened. This lack of reserve stock is also what is keeping the 1080TI's prices up so high even as the other cards prices are dropping with the drop in the mining boom. You're better off thinking about a 2080 or 2070TI than a 1080TI in the near future as the former is likely to become more affordable.

And I'm sure NVIDIA is more than happy to keep the market shifted in favor of 20XXs, where they control the stock at the moment.

[Torisakia]

Don't know if this goes in this thread or the Gamers thread, but I've been wanting to (need to) upgrade my current system to AM4 and this is the parts list I've put together for it. I left out thing I already have like a case and a video card (which doesn't need immediate upgrade). Here's my current PC specs. Anyone tell me if my upgrade list is good or bad or whatever? Just ant to get some feedback before I buy anything.

[Industrial Republics]

Don't know if this goes in this thread or the Gamers thread, but I've been wanting to (need to) upgrade my current system to AM4 and this is the parts list I've put together for it. I left out thing I already have like a case and a video card (which doesn't need immediate upgrade). Here's my current PC specs. Anyone tell me if my upgrade list is good or bad or whatever? Just ant to get some feedback before I buy anything.

That's pretty much what I upgraded to except I have the 1600x, you're looking at around 50-60% faster processor.

If you want to be extra like I was when I upgraded get a board that supports NVMe and get a 120gb drive just for your OS. Then use the 2'5" SATA SSD for your favorite games, rest on the HDD.

[Corrian]

They're on a new generation now and it's not very profitable to manufacture old chips.

Yep, while it is common to see previous generation cards still getting manufactured after the release of new generation, this is generally because the chip manufacturer typically has reserve stock of GPUs for those cards manufacturers... Not this time however with specifically 1080TI' simply because when nVidia shifted production in their lines for hte new GPU on the 2080's, there was no reserve stock of 104-400 and 410 GPUs used in the 1080TI cards to allow manufactured to keep making them.

It an unfortunate side effect of the GPU mining craze that happened. This lack of reserve stock is also what is keeping the 1080TI's prices up so high even as the other cards prices are dropping with the drop in the mining boom. You're better off thinking about a 2080 or 2070TI than a 1080TI in the near future as the former is likely to become more affordable.

The 1070 ti was actually cheaper than the 1080 too and slightly better, interestingly enough.

[Torisakia]

Don't know if this goes in this thread or the Gamers thread, but I've been wanting to (need to) upgrade my current system to AM4 and this is the parts list I've put together for it. I left out thing I already have like a case and a video card (which doesn't need immediate upgrade). Here's my current PC specs. Anyone tell me if my upgrade list is good or bad or whatever? Just ant to get some feedback before I buy anything.

That's pretty much what I upgraded to except I have the 1600x, you're looking at around 50-60% faster processor.

If you want to be extra like I was when I upgraded get a board that supports NVMe and get a 120gb drive just for your OS. Then use the 2'5" SATA SSD for your favorite games, rest on the HDD.

I've looked into getting a 1600x, but it'll depend on how my budget looks. And I didn't think about the NVMe thing. I'll check it out.

[Salandriagado]

Don't know if this goes in this thread or the Gamers thread, but I've been wanting to (need to) upgrade my current system to AM4 and this is the parts list I've put together for it. I left out thing I already have like a case and a video card (which doesn't need immediate upgrade). Here's my current PC specs. Anyone tell me if my upgrade list is good or bad or whatever? Just ant to get some feedback before I buy anything.

That's pretty much what I upgraded to except I have the 1600x, you're looking at around 50-60% faster processor.

No you aren't. The 1600 and 1600X are identical silicon, so you can just overclock the 1600 to 1600X specs. You'll maybe get a few percent more out of an average 1600X due to silicon binning, but nothing even remotely close to 50%.

[Industrial Republics]

That's pretty much what I upgraded to except I have the 1600x, you're looking at around 50-60% faster processor.

No you aren't. The 1600 and 1600X are identical silicon, so you can just overclock the 1600 to 1600X specs. You'll maybe get a few percent more out of an average 1600X due to silicon binning, but nothing even remotely close to 50%.

Alright let me make it a little more clear for you, he asked if it was an upgrade for him. It is, he's looking at a 50-60% performance upgrade per benchmarks compared to his old processor. The 1600X was just an anecdote in that is what I ended up getting for my build.

[Corrian]

Hmm, I had one thought related to an "Ultra wide monitor" vs "Double or triple wide monitor". While an ultra wide monitor would be more seamless and nice in that regard, one of my original intents with a double or triple monitor was at times while, even just using the Internet, I could have on one screen this website, and on another, say, Spotify, or whatever. I doubt that is a concept on the ultra wide monitors.

[Corrian]

Hmm, I had one thought related to an "Ultra wide monitor" vs "Double or triple wide monitor". While an ultra wide monitor would be more seamless and nice in that regard, one of my original intents with a double or triple monitor was at times while, even just using the Internet, I could have on one screen this website, and on another, say, Spotify, or whatever. I doubt that is a concept on the ultra wide monitors.

[Libereco kaj Paco]

Death to Windows, long live Linux!