Jedi Council wrote:New haven america wrote:It's funny how they say I'm incapable of providing constructive or valid criticism when I've honestly almost never been able to get people who claim to like the shows to explain what they actually like about the shows other than it has the ST name attached and having STD/STP is better than nothing. What do you like about the characters? Motives? Settings? Plot structure? Themes? Effects and sound? Etc...
I'm open to hearing about it. Seriously. It'd be nice to hear an actual explanation other than "It's ST so just shut up and like it!". I'll start, I liked Pike in STD s2 because he was a strong, capable, and humble leader who generally made the show much nicer all around whenever he was on screen with his pleasant yet simultaneously commanding demeanor.
1. I literally posted around three or four paragraph of why I like Discovery and Picard. You may disagree but that does not invalidate others opinions.
2. But as others have said, I have a distinct feeling that nothing will satisfy you except everyone agreeing with you so I will stop trying
1. No, you did not, you presented subjective ideas as if they were fact and no where in your paragraph long posts did I see "I like X because of Y."
2. Having an actually good ST show not made by idiots like Kurtzman, Goldsman, or Chabon might work. I liked ST Beyond for example, and that was silly and fun and I liked it because you could tell the people working on it actually liked ST and understood what ST was about at its core.