eragon

by **Politicallyincorrects** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:49 pm

everyone knows or at least should know that the kid was only 17 when he wrote the first novel but i still think it's a knock off from several different novels including harry potter, and lotr.

by **The Corparation** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:52 pm

Not really a knock off of Hairy potter much. Story is much different then LotRs. Its an original unique creation, but its source material shows. For such a young author to have written such a series is actually quite good. He's good at it, and he'll only get better.

by **Conserative Morality** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:16 pm

Star Wars in Generic Fantasyland.

As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

by **Greater Tezdrian** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:22 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

Paolini is a lesson for us all.

Last.fm · by **Cosumar** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:57 am

The Corparation wrote:Not really a knock off of Hairy potter much. Story is much different then LotRs. Its an original unique creation, but its source material shows. For such a young author to have written such a series is actually quite good. He's good at it, and he'll only get better.

Essentially, this. He created an incredibly unique and detailed world, and at such a young age, although it's influences aren't hard to guess.

by **Eaglleia** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:05 am

The Corparation wrote:Not really a knock off of Hairy potter much. Story is much different then LotRs. Its an original unique creation, but its source material shows. For such a young author to have written such a series is actually quite good. He's good at it, and he'll only get better.

So its a little similar to LOTR. But that doesn't make it a knock off. And Harry Potter? Hardly. Therefore; This. ^

by **Buffett and Colbert** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:44 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

That's a fact, since Eragon was crap.

by **Nimzonia** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:55 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Star Wars in Generic Fantasyland.

As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

I don't think it did get published the traditional way (i.e. actually being good enough to convince an editor). He self-published it, and then marketed it aggressively. It only got picked up by a mainstream publisher later.

To be fair, the likes of Hickman/Weis, R. A. Salvatore, and David Eddings are equally crap. As long as you superficially imitate Tolkien, it doesn't seem to matter how bad your writing is.

by **Weylara** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:03 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

That's a fact, since Eragon was crap.

I thought the book was alright. That movie, however, is a complete departure and a sack...well, words cannot describe. Eloquently, that is.

by **Zavea** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:03 pm

probably one of the best fantasy series i've read since ASOIAF and the harry potter books. i still can't believe how he got the first book published as a teenager -- it's pretty impressive.

i think that's what generated some of the negative criticism that everyone throws at him, though. it really revived the whole "child prodigy author" craze since once the franchise really went mainstream a lot of hype was generated towards him and his books.

i also find it quite funny to learn that there were so many people who had a lot of negative things to say about it. i think there's even a LJ group that was once devoted to dissecting the series and why it "sucked". (that has since expanded to cover a lot of other books toted as "great")

by **Canada Remnants** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:07 pm

Movie sucks

Only the book is good because of lots of detail and good quality character setting.
I wish the author can finish up with the fourth book I'm waiting forever for that release.....

by **Ashlak** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:48 pm

The books were decent and entertaining, but the movie was just pure, utter shit.

Last.fm · by **Cosumar** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:13 pm

Canada Remnants wrote:I wish the author can finish up with the fourth book I'm waiting forever for that release.....

I know! It's been what, 3 years? It better be pretty damn epic.

by **Serrland** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:33 pm

Eragon, like the others in the series, was piss poor but annoyingly readable. Not terribly original, but a good way to enter Fantasy as a genre for a young reader.

by **Ngelmish** » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:54 pm

The problem with the myth of Eragon is primarily located in two places: One, he was not 17 when he wrote the damn thing. That was when he started writing it, not when he finished. Secondarily, it's worth noting that he didn't actually get the initial run published in the traditional way. His parents paid for the initial publication and it was only after taking off in terms of sales that he got a "proper" deal.

Aside from all of that it's terribly derivative, not clever and easy to work out. It's main virtue? Readability.

by **Meryuma** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:00 am

It's a generic fantasy novel that's seen as better then it is because of ageist double standards in society.

Also Paolini sucks at conlanging. The Ancient Language (what a name!) is just English with Old Norse vocabulary and some minor syntactic changes.

by **Funk4ever** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:04 am

Cosumar wrote:
Canada Remnants wrote:I wish the author can finish up with the fourth book I'm waiting forever for that release.....

I know! It's been what, 3 years? It better be pretty damn epic.

I have given up waiting. Though if he does release it, I'll have a massive amount of catching up to do since I've forgotten most of what happened in the first three books.

by **Hathradic States** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:10 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Star Wars in Generic Fantasyland.

As an aspiring writer, Eragon encourages me: if he can get published, I can certainly get published.

^that, all the way.

In fact, Eragon inspired me to start writing, because I was ashamed that the only commercially successful book with a dragon in it was a giant knock-off.

by **Trolling Trolls** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:11 am

Weylara wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:That's a fact, since Eragon was crap.

I thought the book was alright. That movie, however, is a complete departure and a sack...well, words cannot describe. Eloquently, that is.

I agree with this guy.

by **Hassett** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:12 am

He ripped us all off, he promised a trilogy and it wasn't.

by **Novograd IV** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:12 am

Politicallyincorrects wrote:everyone knows or at least should know that the kid was only 17 when he wrote the first novel but i still think it's a knock off from several different novels including harry potter, and lotr.

I saw the movie.

Something along the lines of:

"only masters with years of training can ride this dragon, you're only eig-"
"wheeeeeeee! fly faster mr.Dragon!"
"well you don't have dragon-vision^TM, that's a true master ski-"
"Oh wow, I can see through the dragon's eyes"
.... timeskip ....
"this battle is imposs-"
"I killed them all, moar plx?"

by **Litresha** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:18 am

The only problem I had with this book was that it was... too long. He goes into so much detail sometimes that I found myself getting pretty bored. However, I thought it was well written and I liked the book in the end. Paolini says that the fourth book will be the most action packed of the series; he'd better be right.

by **Azerzia** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:18 am

My major complaint with the series is that the 'foreshadowing' is more like 'so guys this is whats going to happen next time', like

Everyone saw that coming, or at least I did. I haven't seen the movie but according to everyone that is a blessing

by **Ramalet** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:22 am

I guess its pretty difficult to write a fantasy novel with completely original ideas. You can't really judge a book as being a rip-off because it uses magic and has dragons in it.

So that aside I liked it as they are really easy books to just sit and read and not get bored. I also liked how for part of the books it wasn't all about the major hero's (dragon riders and rebel armies) but some villagers who were trying to protect their own.

Like many others have said... The movie was a poor representation of the book.

by **Hathradic States** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:27 am

Meryuma wrote:It's a generic fantasy novel that's seen as better then it is because of ageist double standards in society.

Also Paolini sucks at conlanging. The Ancient Language (what a name!) is just English with Old Norse vocabulary and some minor syntactic changes.

Woefully unoriginal, as was a majority of his storylining. My own Draconic language is much more original. (My story line probably is, though my history is parallel to IRL)

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