I don't want to look rude so please take this discussion as in fact a discussion, I think these things are alr covered by authoritarianism
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by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:26 am
Lipizia wrote:Thenium wrote:at the moment I have Authoritarianism what stats would change from it?Concentrated executive power with little tolerance for dissent.
Beh it would have even less civil rights, even less political freedom, few economic freedom anyway and little governement.
Probably also traditionalist.

by Lipizia » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:30 am
Thenium wrote:Lipizia wrote:Beh it would have even less civil rights, even less political freedom, few economic freedom anyway and little governement.
Probably also traditionalist.
I don't want to look rude so please take this discussion as in fact a discussion, I think these things are alr covered by authoritarianism

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:31 am
Bagong Timog Mindanao wrote:I have a question regarding to the website. Why is State Atheism classified as an "ideology"? Auth-left to be exact?
And in the world census explorer, why is law enforcement not in the safety and security category?


by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:35 am
Lipizia wrote:Thenium wrote:I don't want to look rude so please take this discussion as in fact a discussion, I think these things are alr covered by authoritarianism
Ok ok but you should create authoritarian communism so. Because only "Communism" in a total dictatorship is not correct, at least for me.

by Kuromistan » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:37 am
Thenium wrote:Lipizia wrote:Ok ok but you should create authoritarian communism so. Because only "Communism" in a total dictatorship is not correct, at least for me.
Yup indeed, Puff Mains also noted this, I'm gonna wait for her/his/their response on the matter since it looked like he/she/they knew better than me, I'd also like to note my site is politically neutral, if you think that one ideology has a too "straw-manned" description suggest another one and I'll probably change it.

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:41 am
Kuromistan wrote:Thenium wrote:Yup indeed, Puff Mains also noted this, I'm gonna wait for her/his/their response on the matter since it looked like he/she/they knew better than me, I'd also like to note my site is politically neutral, if you think that one ideology has a too "straw-manned" description suggest another one and I'll probably change it.
You might need to have a team of people to consult with regarding proper (and perhaps more) nation classifications, but PLEASE DON'T SCRAP IT!!!

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:43 am

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by Kuromistan » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:46 am
The Republic of the United Marble Tribes wrote:cool website
https://nationstates-dossier-explorer.vercel.app/
My ideology is religious socialism. (HOW?)
Also, my people are called Marblelanians, you may want to correct on that. Thank you!

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 1:47 am
Kuromistan wrote:The Republic of the United Marble Tribes wrote:cool website
https://nationstates-dossier-explorer.vercel.app/
My ideology is religious socialism. (HOW?)
Also, my people are called Marblelanians, you may want to correct on that. Thank you!
Yeah, the demonym field seems to not get fetched

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by Lipizia » Mon Sep 07, 2026 5:06 am
Lipizia wrote:Thenium wrote:Anarcho-Primitism
Guys this would be the third time I try to fix Anarcho-Primitism, Puff Mains suggested taking into account the ban on cars and airplanes, while this suggetion would pretty much fix the entire issue it looks like NS doesn't store this information so A-P would never appear in the ideological history of your nation, I'm open to some suggestions on what stats to consider for A-P, and what expected traditionalism for it would you suggest? Rn it is at 44/100 — Mixed which I think could even be lowered but umh I'm gonna wait for you to tell me what to change reguarding this ideology.
For me personally, anarcho-primitism is ok how it's now. Maybe in effect it should be only for nation with at least... 20? (In the Big Number Scale)

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by Fhaengshia » Mon Sep 07, 2026 5:36 am

by Meraud » Mon Sep 07, 2026 5:39 am
Fhaengshia wrote:"and a whopping 92.5% tax rate. Quite the opposite of the stateless capitalism of ancap."

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by Kuromistan » Mon Sep 07, 2026 6:35 am
Enimero wrote:Oooooooh!!! This site is very nice
I did get Social Liberalism! Though I'd much prefer a more progressive type than just 'liberalism'.

by Grenartia » Mon Sep 07, 2026 7:27 am
Thenium wrote:Anarcho-Primitism
Guys this would be the third time I try to fix Anarcho-Primitism, Puff Mains suggested taking into account the ban on cars and airplanes, while this suggetion would pretty much fix the entire issue it looks like NS doesn't store this information so A-P would never appear in the ideological history of your nation, I'm open to some suggestions on what stats to consider for A-P, and what expected traditionalism for it would you suggest? Rn it is at 44/100 — Mixed which I think could even be lowered but umh I'm gonna wait for you to tell me what to change reguarding this ideology.

by Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio » Mon Sep 07, 2026 7:39 am

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 8:06 am
Fhaengshia wrote:I know my nation is weird, and even NS doesn't get anarchies quite right, but I was surprised to find my nation described as having an Anarcho-Capitalism ideology.
I am aiming for pure 100/100 scores in each of the freedoms (Civil rights, Political freedom, Economic freedom) which is the extreme point of anarchies on NS, but my nation has extremely robust civil services and a whopping 92.5% tax rate. Quite the opposite of the stateless capitalism of ancap.
Is it possible to take taxation, government size, or something else into account or is my setup just too niche?
by King Sam of House of Buca » Mon Sep 07, 2026 8:07 am
Thenium wrote:Fhaengshia wrote:I know my nation is weird, and even NS doesn't get anarchies quite right, but I was surprised to find my nation described as having an Anarcho-Capitalism ideology.
I am aiming for pure 100/100 scores in each of the freedoms (Civil rights, Political freedom, Economic freedom) which is the extreme point of anarchies on NS, but my nation has extremely robust civil services and a whopping 92.5% tax rate. Quite the opposite of the stateless capitalism of ancap.
Is it possible to take taxation, government size, or something else into account or is my setup just too niche?
I'm pushing a BIG update on the compass yo may want to check it again in a few hours

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 8:33 am

by Thenium » Mon Sep 07, 2026 8:39 am
Thenium wrote:BIG UPDATE TO THE COMPASS
It almost certainly still needs some adjustments,
Now there are 60 ideologies not 63
Guild Socialism merged into Market Socialism
Techno-Utopianism merged into Ecomodernism
Radical Centrism was remove
(These ideologies were too niche)
Maoism is now defined by agrarian economy + mobilised, politicised society + extreme radicality.
Trotskyism is defined as far-left economics under libertarian conditions with maximal radicality.
Monarchy labels are now directly anchored to the game's official category. (Absolute monarchism, unfortunately NS doesn't store past categories)
New Statistics Used by the Classifier
It now fetchs 28 census scales per classification (up from 21).Previous scales retained: Civil Rights, Economy, Political Freedom, Social Conservatism, Government Size, Welfare, Public Healthcare, Religiousness, Income Equality, Ideological Radicality, Defence Forces, Pacifism, Economic Freedom, Authoritarianism, Weaponization, Secularism, Primitiveness, Scientific Advancement, Public Education, Patriotism, and Economic Output.
Eight new scales added:Agriculture : Grounds Maoism's peasant-centred focus.
Intelligence : Acts as a hard gate for Technocracy.
Political Apathy : Provides mobilisation evidence for Maoism, Jacobinism, Trotskyism, Luxemburgism, and both Populisms.
Taxation : Grounds Fiscal Conservatism (low-tax requirement).
Youth Rebelliousness : Evidence of a revolutionary generation (Jacobinism, Trotskyism).
Average Income : Powers the Degrowth per-capita check.
Compliance & Safety : Fetched for law-and-order corroboration.
Two New Evidence Channels
Government budget shares (GOVT shard): Spirituality gates Theocracy/Clerical Fascism (requiring actual state funding for religion); Defence grounds Neoconservatism; Environment supports the green family; Welfare/Healthcare anchor Social Democracy; Administration supports Technocracy and State Capitalism; Commerce grounds Plutocracy.
Game category: Serves as the sole authority on the head of state. Constitutional and Absolute Monarchism now strictly require their matching game category, catching details census numbers miss.
What "— (Definitional label only)" Means
In "how the data is calculated", the Census requirement column highlights mandatory traits an ideology demands (for example, Anarcho-Pacifism must actually have pacifism).
Most ideologies do not have these hard requirements since I couldn't think of what NS stat to use; their labels are defined purely by their compass position and expected traditionalism or radicality.
To make this clear, the column now reads — (definitional label only).
Hard gates: Only 12 ideologies carry strict census requirements.
Definitional labels: The other 48 simply define a region of the map (the compass), with softer supporting evidence found in the neighbouring "Preferred profile" column.
Big thanks to Puff Mains, most of this update is inspired to the things he/she/they noted (what pronouns do you go by Puff?), mainly how there aren't ways of making sure the ideological description actually reflects a nation, from now it is specified if there is no way we can calculate via NS if that description fits your nation. (look in how the data is calculated)
The example nations are almost all wrong for a bit it should fix itself with time.
I still haven't fixed the denonym bug have patience please <3
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