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What is the best overhaul/extension EU4 mod?

Extended Timeline Mod (ETT: From Rome to Modern day and into the future of the year 9999AD!)
51
53%
MEIOU and Taxes (Never played it myself, but its pretty damn popular, because it does stuff... and things.. stuff and thaaaaaaaaaaaangs, lots of stuff and thaaaaaangs)
11
11%
Imperiam Universalis (To the world of Antiquity! Greeks, Romans and Gauls Oh my!)
8
8%
Common Universalis (Large governance overhaul mod that also does stuff and thaaaangs in regards to how empires change and adapt as the game goes on)
5
5%
Mesoamerica Universalis (Overhaul mod set in the lands of central america during the hay day of the Aztecs and others before the spanish came over and went absolute ham with flags, swords, guns and god)
0
No votes
Shattered Europa (Say good bye to your BBB, the HRE and all the other blocs and super nations, welcome to a realm of fragmented nations!)
3
3%
Veritas et Fortitudo (Another large overhaul mod which extends the game from the mid 1300s to the mid 1800s with a lot of reworking to many different features of the game.... stuff and thaaa- if you have not noticed yet im not as familiar with EU4 mods as i am others)
6
6%
Voltaire's Nightmare (Large mod centred on the HRE in europe)
8
8%
Other
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4%
 
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Rannoria
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Postby Rannoria » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:57 am

Huge sale on humble bundle now on pdx games.

tryna choose between cities skylines w/ mass transit or ck2 w/ way of life
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Postby Renoa » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:05 pm

Rannoria wrote:Huge sale on humble bundle now on pdx games.

tryna choose between cities skylines w/ mass transit or ck2 w/ way of life

If you don't currently have CK2 with any of the expansions, I would say get Cities. While I've never played CK2 with no expansions, I feel like it would feel rather hollow and narrow as to who exactly you're allowed to play, while Cities is pretty great all on its own, though it doesn't have as much replay value.
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Postby Rannoria » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:06 pm

Renoa wrote:
Rannoria wrote:Huge sale on humble bundle now on pdx games.

tryna choose between cities skylines w/ mass transit or ck2 w/ way of life

If you don't currently have CK2 with any of the expansions, I would say get Cities. While I've never played CK2 with no expansions, I feel like it would feel rather hollow and narrow as to who exactly you're allowed to play, while Cities is pretty great all on its own, though it doesn't have as much replay value.

Hmm.

I don't have CK2 with any expansions rn, but that's why I intend to get way of life with it, but then again, Cities looks sick as well.

EDIT: Ck2 with way of life is cheaper btw, so that also is kept in mind.
It's only by like 2 eur tho.

EDIT EDIT: Might go for Cities, as I already have EU4 and HoI4, although they play differently.

The third alternative, actually, is just to buy rights of man for EU4. But is that really worth it as opposed to Cities w/ Mass Transit? or CK2 w/ Way of Life?
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Lol I'm part of the federation of allies or something

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Postby Kernan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:16 pm

Since my first question was probably drowned in our riveting discussion of purging heretics and the like how do you use claims effectively in CK2? Whenever I try it the claimants just go independent.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:20 pm

Kernan wrote:Since my first question was probably drowned in our riveting discussion of purging heretics and the like how do you use claims effectively in CK2? Whenever I try it the claimants just go independent.

How are you doing it?
Remember that the only times they DON'T become independent are if they are family of yours or they are already a landed vassal.

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Postby Kernan » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Kernan wrote:Since my first question was probably drowned in our riveting discussion of purging heretics and the like how do you use claims effectively in CK2? Whenever I try it the claimants just go independent.

How are you doing it?
Remember that the only times they DON'T become independent are if they are family of yours or they are already a landed vassal.

Id just see that a guy in my court had a claim and press it. Guess it makes sense why they would not be mine when I put it like that
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:24 pm

Kernan wrote:
Genivaria wrote:How are you doing it?
Remember that the only times they DON'T become independent are if they are family of yours or they are already a landed vassal.

Id just see that a guy in my court had a claim and press it. Guess it makes sense why they would not be mine when I put it like that

Yeah that wouldn't work if you want them to automatically join you.
The best claims to press are those of your family which you can then inherit.
For example. I'm the Emperor of the HRE, I married a daughter of the current King of England.
Later down the road the king dies and my English wife has a claim to the English throne, so I press the claim and my children will inherit the title.

You can also try replacing a ruler of a small county or duchy and then offer vassalization, remember that you have to be much stronger than them AND they can't be King rank.
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Postby Griffonian Order » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:26 pm

I stopped playing Paradox games a long while ego, I love their games to bits tho but the clausewitz engine doesn't really help on my gaming PC. So I stopped funding their games cause after 500 DLC's and many games with the same engine I just can't anymore.

I especially loved stellaris but the 1000 Star galaxy's is broken and my rig can't handle the 400 Ones even with a 1070 GTX X MSI card.
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Postby The Olog-Hai » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:53 pm

Just so you guys know, there's currently a dev version of Elder Kings that functions in 2.7.x. Link. It's not fully finished, and still a bit glitchy, but from what I've played the guilds have been incorporated into the Monks and Mystics style nicely, and artifacts galore...
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Postby Dakran » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:57 pm

Right so, in my Stellaris game the Prethoryn arrived. Figured it would be them because the event did say that they were travelling towards our galaxy. Because I'm Psionic I can talk to them, and I REALLY want the Hunter lore to be expanded upon. It says they're coming for our galaxy too, so I really have to wonder what they truly are.

EDIT: Also holy fuck the slowdown is real

EDIT AGAIN: The first great battle of the First Galactic War ended in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of casualties. Hundreds of ships were destroyed or damaged. A difficult blow for the Slavers to recover from.
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Ism
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Postby Ism » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:10 pm

For the first time, I have encountered a custom empire in Stellaris. Apparently they're a migratory flock. Good job me.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:13 pm

Ism wrote:For the first time, I have encountered a custom empire in Stellaris. Apparently they're a migratory flock. Good job me.

That's a rather fun event, I think. Once I let them colonize a rather inhospitable world in my borders, then annexed the planet as soon as their military fleet left the system.
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Postby Dakran » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:56 pm

The war is over... So many dead... So many destroyed planets... Uncounted billions... Gone... We did what we had to do to end the war so we could focus on the Scourge. History will absolve us...
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Postby Charnea » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:15 pm

x3 that title tho

"He who controls Riga controls the Universe"


2/10 not enough Ulm.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:27 am

Probably the best Paradox experience I have had so far:

In my latest CK2 game, I have been playing as the Lord of the Seven Kingdoms of Spain for some time, and have only just recently conquered enough of the Iberian peninsula to form the Empire of Hispania. France has shown me little mercy, and we have bashed each others' teeth in repeatedly over the interior of Spain.

As my current ruler, Velaris II, I decided to get frisky with the princess of England, who was also my kinsman's wife. I gave her two sons and a daughter that he thought were his, and he gave her none. Some time after the princess's brother inherited the throne, she usurped it for herself. Now, since she was married to a kinsman in my court, the princess was also in my imperial court when she usurped the Kingdom of England. That left me with quite a big surprise. A very big and pleasant surprise.

Later on, when my wife died of old age, I conspired to murder my lover's husband and got away with it entirely. And the 71-year-old emperor and his 39-year-old queen lived happily ever after.

The only complaint I have is that I am unable to declare her children my own. After all, they are already part of my dynasty, and now their births are legitimized by wedlock! :P
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:03 am

Part 2 to the post above, since apparently this game wasn't done with me yet.

Literally a couple in-game months after that post, my ruler dies and I switch to his 50-something son, who had been busy waging war against North African sultans. I decide to marry him to the same queen of England his father had married just a few months earlier (since she is still younger than him and he already has plenty of kids). I grant the eldest son some major holdings, give the other one a duchy, and otherwise split things up to satisfy the demesne cap.

Then I ride into battle to finish the war that the AI had already nearly won for me, and I die in the one battle I need to win. That guy's son becomes emperor and immediately conquers Morocco. Then I repeat the entire process, except this time I search for a good wife, because this new emperor has no children, and my younger brother is only happy with me because he loved our father so much.

I'm going to bed. CK2 is getting weird.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:28 am

Charnea wrote:x3 that title tho

"He who controls Riga controls the Universe"


2/10 not enough Ulm.

Ulm is overrated.

YEAH I SAID IT, WHAT YOU GONA DO!

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Wallenburg wrote:Part 2 to the post above, since apparently this game wasn't done with me yet.

Literally a couple in-game months after that post, my ruler dies and I switch to his 50-something son, who had been busy waging war against North African sultans. I decide to marry him to the same queen of England his father had married just a few months earlier (since she is still younger than him and he already has plenty of kids). I grant the eldest son some major holdings, give the other one a duchy, and otherwise split things up to satisfy the demesne cap.

Then I ride into battle to finish the war that the AI had already nearly won for me, and I die in the one battle I need to win. That guy's son becomes emperor and immediately conquers Morocco. Then I repeat the entire process, except this time I search for a good wife, because this new emperor has no children, and my younger brother is only happy with me because he loved our father so much.

I'm going to bed. CK2 is getting weird.
Yeah it does that, it can get weird, and then weirder than weird.
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Postby Charnea » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:13 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Charnea wrote:x3 that title tho

"He who controls Riga controls the Universe"


2/10 not enough Ulm.

Ulm is overrated.

YEAH I SAID IT, WHAT YOU GONA DO!

I know its a meme, but I still laughed then these guys https://xenonion.com/

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Postby Bralia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:09 am

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:27 am


ARMY GROUPS ARE BACK BITCHES! YEAH!
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:42 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:

ARMY GROUPS ARE BACK BITCHES! YEAH!

This has potential to be AWESOME.
Also I wonder if this will change Battle Planning at all.

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Kernan
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Postby Kernan » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:06 am

So i have formulated a new campaign to play on the side to my MRGA campaign. I will take control of a custom character, Rogar Bolton in the aftermath of the death of Valyria. A reincarnation of the last of the Red Kings it will be my goal to make the Starks pay for making the Dreadfort bend the knee. I have already launched a few revolts to lower crown authority to its lowest, capturing and skinning King Brandons wife alive as a warning. It makes a nice coat.
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Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:18 am

Kernan wrote:So i have formulated a new campaign to play on the side to my MRGA campaign. I will take control of a custom character, Rogar Bolton in the aftermath of the death of Valyria. A reincarnation of the last of the Red Kings it will be my goal to make the Starks pay for making the Dreadfort bend the knee. I have already launched a few revolts to lower crown authority to its lowest, capturing and skinning King Brandons wife alive as a warning. It makes a nice coat.

CK2 is one hell of a drug.
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Postby Kernan » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:25 am

The Batavia wrote:
Kernan wrote:So i have formulated a new campaign to play on the side to my MRGA campaign. I will take control of a custom character, Rogar Bolton in the aftermath of the death of Valyria. A reincarnation of the last of the Red Kings it will be my goal to make the Starks pay for making the Dreadfort bend the knee. I have already launched a few revolts to lower crown authority to its lowest, capturing and skinning King Brandons wife alive as a warning. It makes a nice coat.

CK2 is one hell of a drug.

You'd make a nice petticoat if you don't bow to the RED KING OF WESTEROS!
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Postby The Batavia » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:30 am

Kernan wrote:
The Batavia wrote:CK2 is one hell of a drug.

You'd make a nice petticoat if you don't bow to the RED KING OF WESTEROS!

Come over, I dare you, I'll stack wipe you with my 35k Mercenaries.
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