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Lamoni
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So long, and thank you for all the fish, RP Mentors!

Postby Lamoni » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:03 am

After years of faithful service helping others to improve the quality of their roleplaying, and answering questions from roleplayers, Moderation would like to announce the closure of the RP Mentor Program.

This is no one's "fault," and if we had to pick one reason in particular for the closure of the program, it would be inactivity. We want everyone to know that the Mentors have long been helpful towards others, and active in reaching out to the NS RP Community at large, but when there is limited demand for their services, there is not as much that they can realistically do. There are multiple factors that play into this, one example being the rise of instant messenger or chat services, and the subsequent decrease in the necessity of overarching guidance. RPers are increasingly finding guidance in their own thread communities, and the individual mentors are not as capable of going out and keeping up the amount of general community activity that they used to, due to multiple factors.

It has long been a philosophy of the Moderation team that staff titles should never become some sort of unearned royalty status awarded on the basis of seniority or popularity rather than contribution, which the Mentor jacket has unfortunately degraded into becoming over the years. We will keep the possibility of re-opening the program some day on the table, if there comes such a time where a demand for it has returned. Until then, we have no problem with anyone continuing to maintain any Mentorship activities in an informal capacity, as was largely the case before the Mentorship program was founded.

We want to extend a genuine thank you to everyone, past and present, who has ever served as a Mentor. Regardless of how things have ended, everyone who has ever held the role has done so because at some point they contributed great value to the community, and many will doubtless continue to do so. NS is, in some small way, a better place because of you, and that will not go unappreciated or forgotten.

We would also like to announce that each of the current RP Mentors will be retaining Postmaster General status for free, reflective of the services that they have provided as members of the NS Staff.

Thank you for all the good memories, and good luck on your future endeavors.

(Portions of this post have been contributed by both Lamoni and Giovenith)
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Zarkenis Ultima
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:16 am

It was a good run. Thank you for having me! You know where to find me if you ever need me again ;)
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Valentine Z
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:57 am

Aww, no more mint green colour names.

Thank you for everything!
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:00 am

Talk about a sign of the times! But, in our new age of fast everything and instant messaging, perhaps this was inevitable.

I will sorely miss seeing a green-speckled name pop into a forum thread, and I consign it to memory with considerable sadness.
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Postby Arpasia » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:06 am

Goodbye, Esternial and Neu Engollon's titles, it has been fun knowing you.
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Postby Tangatarehua » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:09 am

That's a bit sad to hear because the RP mentors were instrumental in me becoming a better writer and roleplayer back in 2012 (wow, 10 years ago) when I first started regularly RPing on this site.

But I can understand the decision, I think - things sure have changed in ten years, the community today is a very different one to the one I knew.
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Esternial
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Postby Esternial » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:58 am

Glad I could contribute as long as it lasted. I'll never forget the first days of P2TM and helping to set up the first community threads, and seeing the P2TM community grow and evolve over the years.

If anyone still needs/wants help with something, my TG inbox will always be open. I'm not as active in P2TM as I used to be, but the place and the community will always have a place in my alpaca heart <3

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Republic Of Ludwigsburg
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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:04 am

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:32 am

The roleplayer in me wishes to thank you all for your service. The Mod in me wishes you all well.

To the Mentors, may their service be forever remembered.
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Quintessence of Dust
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Ex-Nation

Postby Quintessence of Dust » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28 am

A couple times I asked mentors questions they were very helpful. Thanks for all you contributed.
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Dexterra
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Postby Dexterra » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:47 am

I'm still a relatively recent RPer and NS user in general, but I can tell RP mentorship had a highly positive impact on the community. Thank you to all mentors!
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:21 am

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Arcturus Novus
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:24 am

My RP days are largely behind me on here — honestly, they were behind me right as P2TM took off — but I’m grateful for every member of the Mentor team and their contributions. I’m sure most of y’all will still be just as active even without the fancy light green nameplate.
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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:34 am

Question: what will happen to the badges that still remain on the cards?

Like this one for example https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 9/season=1
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Postby Kylarnatia » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:43 am

It was wonderful to get to help out with this. Glad I got to answer loads of creative questions and interact with so many awesome people. :)
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Postby Sarzonia » Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:53 am

I've kind of wondered about applying official sanction to a set of RP mentors, almost as if other quality roleplayers who have or could serve in a more unofficial capacity are somehow devalued because they don't have mint green colouring for their names.

That isn't to say the NS RP Mentoring programme doesn't -- or didn't -- have value, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who can help others improve their worldbuilding or realism or storytelling abilities without having a fancy title.
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Postby Sunset » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:00 am

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Question: what will happen to the badges that still remain on the cards?

Like this one for example https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 9/season=1


Nothing, as far as I know. When a card is minted it stays as minted. Which, I suppose, would mean that Minty ex-Mentor cards might become more valuable.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:01 am

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Question: what will happen to the badges that still remain on the cards?

Like this one for example https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 9/season=1

No change. Those players were Mentors at the time, so the badges stay on the cards generated then. Same as any ex-staff member. Season 3 obviously won't have Mentor badges.

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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:23 am

Addio, mentors; farewell.
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Neu Engollon
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Postby Neu Engollon » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:49 am

Arpasia wrote:Goodbye, Esternial and Neu Engollon's titles, it has been fun knowing you.


Aw, thanks, but we're not going anywhere other than the color change happening. You can still know us. Also, I can only speak for myself, but I'm still available for feedback on ideas, just like many veteran players willing to help. No title needed.
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Postby Yu-Gi-Oh SEVENS » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:31 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Question: what will happen to the badges that still remain on the cards?

Like this one for example https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 9/season=1

No change. Those players were Mentors at the time, so the badges stay on the cards generated then. Same as any ex-staff member. Season 3 obviously won't have Mentor badges.

Wait are you saying S3 is coming
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:33 pm

Esternial wrote:Glad I could contribute as long as it lasted. I'll never forget the first days of P2TM and helping to set up the first community threads, and seeing the P2TM community grow and evolve over the years.

If anyone still needs/wants help with something, my TG inbox will always be open. I'm not as active in P2TM as I used to be, but the place and the community will always have a place in my alpaca heart <3

There is something so unnerving about seeing the word "Esternial" under a fluffy alpaca gif, and for it to not be mint green. It feels deeply wrong, wrong to my very core.
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Ex-Nation

Postby USS Monitor » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:37 pm

*fires a salute for the mentors*
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The Unified Missourtama States
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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:07 pm

Lamoni wrote:We would also like to announce that each of the current RP Mentors will be retaining Postmaster General status for free, reflective of the services that they have provided as members of the NS Staff.

If I interpret correctly, then I should note that these nations only got "Postmaster" (I may have missed former mentors [I definitely did, someone with the full list will need to take a look] not of P2TM, as I couldn't find a list of those):

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=g-tech_corporation
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=zarkenis_ultima
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gre ... lth_states

Additionally, perhaps these nations, although having looked at badge correlations in the past I believe that because they're moderators they can't have a displayed site supporter badge (can someone confirm if this is true or just coincidence in my specific trawl):

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=lamoni
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=giovenith
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Esternial
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Ex-Nation

Postby Esternial » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:48 am

Ikania wrote:
Esternial wrote:Glad I could contribute as long as it lasted. I'll never forget the first days of P2TM and helping to set up the first community threads, and seeing the P2TM community grow and evolve over the years.

If anyone still needs/wants help with something, my TG inbox will always be open. I'm not as active in P2TM as I used to be, but the place and the community will always have a place in my alpaca heart <3

There is something so unnerving about seeing the word "Esternial" under a fluffy alpaca gif, and for it to not be mint green. It feels deeply wrong, wrong to my very core.

Maybe you could make a little userscript in your browser that changes the colour of the former mentors' usernames to mint green and gradually fades to regular green on a day-to-day or week-to-week basis so you can gradually get used to it? :p
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