Gren said he/she accidentally joined, password would have prevented that!
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by Grenartia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:54 pm
I'm religious, myself. Maybe don't presume shit like that without evidence.
Your dismissive attitude towards a fellow religious person is duly noted, and does not improve my perception of the left by one iota.
If your values are shitty and toxic and dehumanizing, they should be wiped away, and nobody should feel compelled to speak in their defense.
From my perspective, it is the values of the sexual revolution and its daughter movements that are "toxic and dehumanizing." The question is whether or not the moderation team is willing to countenance such a perspective on their site, and you have given me no confidence that they are.
The mods aren't here to give you a safe space or an echo chamber. If you want that, go to another site. If you want to put your ideas in a crucible, stick around.
People dismissing me as a bigot and accusing me of hatred will not help me refine my arguments, nor will it convince me that my interlocutors are intellectually and morally superior. Presumably, the purpose of putting my ideas through a crucible would be to achieve one of the two results, would it not?
The most likely response to my ideas, were I to post them in 99.9% of the relevant threads of NSG, would have more to do with a wildfire than a furnace: full of sound and fury, yet of insufficient intellectual heat to refine anything. What I am asking for is less a safe space, and more a space where serious discussion can take place. In order for that to happen, however, we need a place where my ideas will be taken seriously enough to merit a serious response. Hence my request.
Grenartia wrote:
No. All I did was accidentally join the region, and sift through the RMB. Most of it was just shitposting, tbh, but there was unironic triple parentheses, COVID-19 misinfo, people calling other posters in this thread "r*tards", calling mods "pedo enablers", and calling someone a "queer bootlicker" for simply daring to thank a mod (I'm actually shocked that one wasn't directed at me).
I couldn't even have raided if I wanted to. The WA Delegate is non-executive, and they have an active founder.
You by mistake joined?
Besides the point, I dunno what the region is, and if they didn't like you, why didn't they ban you?
And the point of the region was to roast mods?
New haven america wrote:La xinga wrote:(I can't quote stuff and divide stuff cuz NS, so dis. )
1. Banter......is actionable?!
*hides in corner*
2. What was the point of the region? I see a new region with a lot of NSGers.
1. Banter isn't. Bantz is for the most part though, yeah.
2. To basically have a RWDT meet up that's not as monitored by the Mods as the forums are. Don't know why they did that though considering they could just make their own forum or dedicated discord server and remove any actionability entirely.
Vistulange wrote:Sorry, but why on Earth are folks trying to actually blame Grenartia for reporting rule-breaking? There are site rules, and they are applicable to RMB's as well. It's not too difficult to adhere to rules. The question of whether or not she reports those with left-wing views is impertinent: it's up to her to report somebody or not. She's a user, just like the rest of us, and not a moderator. If you were complaining about a moderator taking sides based on ideology, that would have mattered - and to those who say they are, there hasn't been a shred of evidence to suggest such - but actually bringing up Grenartia reporting people, as an issue, is simply ludicrous. Yes, she reports people. Just like we all do.
Tit-for-tat reporting might be a problem, but I'm not certain if "well, left-wingers shouldn't go into right-wing regions and report them" is the solution. Just because you cannot have a safe-space on the forums doesn't mean you get to create one in a region, as those too fall under the purview of the site and its moderators.
La xinga wrote:Vistulange wrote:Sorry, but why on Earth are folks trying to actually blame Grenartia for reporting rule-breaking? There are site rules, and they are applicable to RMB's as well. It's not too difficult to adhere to rules. The question of whether or not she reports those with left-wing views is impertinent: it's up to her to report somebody or not. She's a user, just like the rest of us, and not a moderator. If you were complaining about a moderator taking sides based on ideology, that would have mattered - and to those who say they are, there hasn't been a shred of evidence to suggest such - but actually bringing up Grenartia reporting people, as an issue, is simply ludicrous. Yes, she reports people. Just like we all do.
Tit-for-tat reporting might be a problem, but I'm not certain if "well, left-wingers shouldn't go into right-wing regions and report them" is the solution. Just because you cannot have a safe-space on the forums doesn't mean you get to create one in a region, as those too fall under the purview of the site and its moderators.
I don't know enough of the story, but they should probably have passworded it.
by Chenjithuujen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:56 pm
by Chenjithuujen » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:58 pm
by Katganistan » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:35 pm
Chenjithuujen wrote:You WILL unlock it as there was no reason for you to lock it, it was called Discussion and Relaxation. I hate you for this, like really you just abused your power.
by Kowani » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:42 pm
Vistulange wrote:Sorry, but why on Earth are folks trying to actually blame Grenartia for reporting rule-breaking? There are site rules, and they are applicable to RMB's as well. It's not too difficult to adhere to rules. The question of whether or not she reports those with left-wing views is impertinent: it's up to her to report somebody or not. She's a user, just like the rest of us, and not a moderator. If you were complaining about a moderator taking sides based on ideology, that would have mattered - and to those who say they are, there hasn't been a shred of evidence to suggest such - but actually bringing up Grenartia reporting people, as an issue, is simply ludicrous. Yes, she reports people. Just like we all do.
Tit-for-tat reporting might be a problem, but I'm not certain if "well, left-wingers shouldn't go into right-wing regions and report them" is the solution. Just because you cannot have a safe-space on the forums doesn't mean you get to create one in a region, as those too fall under the purview of the site and its moderators.
by Vapormancer » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:35 pm
Kowani wrote:The old RWDT doesn’t like the Mods.
Grenartia wrote:
They absolutely should have, but that admittedly limits growth, and they were still trying to get a few others from the RWDT clique in there.
by CoraSpia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:40 pm
Vapormancer wrote:Kowani wrote:The old RWDT doesn’t like the Mods.
Now, now that is rather unnecessary. We quite like the mods. A true patriot criticizes things from time to time out of love of his country, as we do out of love for moderation.Grenartia wrote:
They absolutely should have, but that admittedly limits growth, and they were still trying to get a few others from the RWDT clique in there.
It was meant to be friendly and open. We are quite tolerant, diversity after all is our strength. A lesson that others might do well to learn.
by Katganistan » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:56 pm
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