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Postby Katganistan » Sat May 15, 2021 3:20 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:@Mods

Is there any possibility of appealing for the restoration of nations that got deleted?

They didn't include the term "nazi", mind you, but appear to have gotten hit over the term "-reich".

There are plenty of "-reich" nations that did not get the axe, so I would assume that in context, something tipped those nations into the "nope" box.

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Postby Darkesia » Sat May 15, 2021 3:27 pm

I have been looking forward to this day for a decade or more. Thank you.
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Postby Glaz Boer » Sat May 15, 2021 3:36 pm

This is a terrible decision. Banning words won't stop anything.

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Postby Muzehnaya » Sat May 15, 2021 3:37 pm

Glaz Boer wrote:This is a terrible decision. Banning words won't stop anything.

If you read the thread, you'd realize that it's more than just banning the word "nazi"
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sat May 15, 2021 3:38 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:@Mods

Is there any possibility of appealing for the restoration of nations that got deleted?

They didn't include the term "nazi", mind you, but appear to have gotten hit over the term "-reich".

There are plenty of "-reich" nations that did not get the axe, so I would assume that in context, something tipped those nations into the "nope" box.

Maybe me having been an NE resident several years ago was enough context?

Otherwise I can possibly see it for one of them, having been based on my favourite game series by Rebellion at the time which of course heavily featured those buggers. I can accept that one even though I find the name for too iconic and...multi-use to tip it straight into the box. Flag change from the game's loading screen symbol to something else might've sufficed.

The other puppet I'm not so happy about. I was patiently waiting for a prior ancient nation's hold on it to run out and wager it shouldn't have been bad. Honestly don't remember much aside from the name.
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Postby A mean old man » Sat May 15, 2021 3:53 pm

A refreshing pinwheel on a policy that has probably driven respectable people away from this game for almost 20 years.

Maybe the next time I report a swastika hidden in a region's RP flag linked on its WFE I won't get a reply that it's "off-site" and not actionable. That would be another move in the right direction.
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Postby Valerievna » Sat May 15, 2021 3:57 pm

Absolutely iconic, mods. Bless
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Postby The Langburn Islands » Sat May 15, 2021 4:16 pm

Thank you to moderation for finally combatting the vicious, hateful ideology of Nazism and fascism. This is a brave, bold move.
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Postby New Eestiball » Sat May 15, 2021 4:25 pm

How did the mods decide who would get the axe? No offense but I mean, withheld rules are questionable rules.
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Postby Minskiev » Sat May 15, 2021 4:30 pm

New Eestiball wrote:How did the mods decide who would get the axe? I mean, withheld rules are questionable rules.


/notamod but I'd assume common sense. But if someone wants to give a better answer, go ahead.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat May 15, 2021 4:45 pm

I have a few questions.

What of regions that have "National Socialist" in it's name?

What of regions of Neo-Nazi themings- such as regions themed off of the Northwest Territorial Imperative, Fourth Reich, etc.

What of regions that have Neo-Nazi symbols such as the Crossed Grenades, SS bolts, Totenkopf, etc?

What of regions with other hateful and genocidal ideologies, such as pro-Khmer Rouge?
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat May 15, 2021 4:51 pm

Katganistan wrote:I suggest rereading the opening post of this thread.

To be honest, it wasn't clear until you edited it, and the clarification is on a very easy to miss sentence. I think at least the title should be changed. Hell, "Regarding Nazi Regions" or "Prohibition of Nazi Themed Regions" would be better titles. It's easy to get the idea that only the word is banned otherwise.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat May 15, 2021 4:54 pm

Katganistan wrote:I suggest rereading the opening post of this thread.

I'd still like clarification regarding your stance on Khmer Rouge themes
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Postby Vilverin » Sat May 15, 2021 4:56 pm

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sat May 15, 2021 4:56 pm

CoraSpia wrote:
Xoriet wrote:Thank you Mods for this. It is a huge step forward. :hug:

How? They've just killed off a community that's been active for over a decade.

Oh no, the NAZIS are gone? How ever will we recover? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

Now get rid of the actual Nazis in the forums as well - like, people who literally identify as Nazis and Neonazis.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat May 15, 2021 5:00 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I suggest rereading the opening post of this thread.

To be honest, it wasn't clear until you edited it, and the clarification is on a very easy to miss sentence. I think at least the title should be changed. Hell, "Regarding Nazi Regions" or "Prohibition of Nazi Themed Regions" would be better titles. It's easy to get the idea that only the word is banned otherwise.



The only editing I did was to take out the word "Announcement" in the title to fit the character limit so it would mention what was now prohibited (immediately after posting), and place the subheadings in brown and bold them (a few minutes later) so the content of the post has not changed.
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Postby Kylia Quilor » Sat May 15, 2021 5:03 pm

This really won't do much to keep these people out of the game overall, but scattering them will do in a pinch.

I certainly don't have it in me to feel bad over this. Nazi tears are delicious.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sat May 15, 2021 5:07 pm

Katganistan wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:To be honest, it wasn't clear until you edited it, and the clarification is on a very easy to miss sentence. I think at least the title should be changed. Hell, "Regarding Nazi Regions" or "Prohibition of Nazi Themed Regions" would be better titles. It's easy to get the idea that only the word is banned otherwise.



The only editing I did was to take out the word "Announcement" in the title to fit the character limit so it would mention what was now prohibited (immediately after posting), and place the subheadings in brown and bold them (a few minutes later) so the content of the post has not changed.

Alright, though the fact that this is a ban of Nazi regions and nations altogether is easy to miss. It is easy to come to the conclusion that it's just the word that is banned based on the title as well.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat May 15, 2021 5:07 pm

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Postby Katganistan » Sat May 15, 2021 5:09 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I suggest rereading the opening post of this thread.

I'd still like clarification regarding your stance on Khmer Rouge themes


And I implore you to read the opening post, once more. It delineates the policy quite concisely.

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Postby Katganistan » Sat May 15, 2021 5:12 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Katganistan wrote:

The only editing I did was to take out the word "Announcement" in the title to fit the character limit so it would mention what was now prohibited (immediately after posting), and place the subheadings in brown and bold them (a few minutes later) so the content of the post has not changed.

Alright, though the fact that this is a ban of Nazi regions and nations altogether is easy to miss. It is easy to come to the conclusion that it's just the word that is banned based on the title as well.

I should hope people would read the entire post. The title is fewer characters one can fit into a tweet.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sat May 15, 2021 5:13 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I'd still like clarification regarding your stance on Khmer Rouge themes


And I implore you to read the opening post, once more. It delineates the policy quite concisely.

What's the problem with outright telling me if Khmer Rouge themes are banned or not? I'm asking for a genuine clarification, man.

Anyways I'm assuming that Khmer Rouge themes are banned given the advocating violence portion of the ruling. Would appreciate it if you tell me if I am right or wrong tho
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Postby Zeritae » Sat May 15, 2021 5:18 pm

I see in the post it says "this was the case previously" yet in the history page on Nazi Europa it shows them existing before 2016.
Did this mean that the blacklist on Nazi was different then? (pre-2016)
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