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Bear Connors Paradiso
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Bear Connors Paradiso » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:43 am

I support this.

Doesn't matter that its one or two tg's every 5 days. Clearly it annoys some people even to the point of quitting, why not have it be optional?

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Aglrinia
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Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Aglrinia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:51 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I was thinking of leaving because of that.

Because of two telegrams every 5 days at most?

It's often an argument for why people don't join when pressured to join. You'd be surprised how easily annoyed some people can be.
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Ghost Land
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Postby Ghost Land » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:56 am

Eternal Lotharia wrote:I support this because it clogs up my TG's.

And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered. Let us have bigger inboxes by default, or else let the canned WA telegrams be optional. This thread is now two pages; clearly that means it's not just one or two people complaining, and maybe it's an issue that needs to be addressed.
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:59 am

Ghost Land wrote:And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered.

Speaking as a player with a busy inbox, I regularly copy-&-paste my inbox's contents into Word documents to save -- after editing-out the unimportant bits -- offsite.
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Bluelight-R006
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:01 am

Ghost Land wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I support this because it clogs up my TG's.

And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered. Let us have bigger inboxes by default, or else let the canned WA telegrams be optional. This thread is now two pages; clearly that means it's not just one or two people complaining, and maybe it's an issue that needs to be addressed.

Actually, I delete the WA telegrams received. Not in support of them, but I don’t see how hard it is to delete them on the spot. Thus no reason for complaining. After all, telegrams are just pushed to the next page and are deleted when you logout. So just delete the WA telegram(s) before you logout.

Of course, WA. Make our jobs easier.
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Bluelight-R006
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:02 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered.

Speaking as a player with a busy inbox, I regularly copy-&-paste my inbox's contents into Word documents to save -- after editing-out the unimportant bits -- offsite.

Interesting method... I don’t do that because I want the actual copy of the telegram(s) as proof that a player sent something.

But thank you for mentioning — I now seriously consider your method.

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Ghost Land
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Postby Ghost Land » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:04 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered.

Speaking as a player with a busy inbox, I regularly copy-&-paste my inbox's contents into Word documents to save -- after editing-out the unimportant bits -- offsite.

This is what I do too, but it's still tedious.
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Ghost Land wrote:And when the most telegrams you can hold is 20 in your inbox and 20 in your archive (unless you buy premium features, which I refuse to do on principle), you then find that WA telegrams are pushing actual conversations into the abyss of deleted telegrams, never to be recovered. Let us have bigger inboxes by default, or else let the canned WA telegrams be optional. This thread is now two pages; clearly that means it's not just one or two people complaining, and maybe it's an issue that needs to be addressed.

Actually, I delete the WA telegrams received. Not in support of them, but I don’t see how hard it is to delete them on the spot. Thus no reason for complaining. After all, telegrams are just pushed to the next page and are deleted when you logout. So just delete the WA telegram(s) before you logout.

Of course, WA. Make our jobs easier.

Most of the time I'm not online when resolutions are passed (i.e. I'm not sitting in front of a computer 24 hours a day), which means that if I have 20 telegrams in my inbox and then I get a new one, from the WA or otherwise, the oldest telegram in my inbox goes bye-bye.
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:07 am

Ghost Land wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Actually, I delete the WA telegrams received. Not in support of them, but I don’t see how hard it is to delete them on the spot. Thus no reason for complaining. After all, telegrams are just pushed to the next page and are deleted when you logout. So just delete the WA telegram(s) before you logout.

Of course, WA. Make our jobs easier.

Most of the time I'm not online when resolutions are passed (i.e. I'm not sitting in front of a computer 24 hours a day), which means that if I have 20 telegrams in my inbox and then I get a new one, from the WA or otherwise, the oldest telegram in my inbox goes bye-bye.

Stay logged in into your nation. That way the oldest telegram(s) don’t go. Unless, this nation is your puppet nation for another nation and you are logged in into your main account.

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Ghost Land
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Postby Ghost Land » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:09 am

Bluelight-R006 wrote:
Ghost Land wrote:
Most of the time I'm not online when resolutions are passed (i.e. I'm not sitting in front of a computer 24 hours a day), which means that if I have 20 telegrams in my inbox and then I get a new one, from the WA or otherwise, the oldest telegram in my inbox goes bye-bye.

Stay logged in into your nation. That way the oldest telegram(s) don’t go. Unless, this nation is your puppet nation for another nation and you are logged in into your main account.

By definition, I'm not logged in when my computer is off. There's an auto-logout after 30-60 minutes anyway IIRC, and as I said, I'm not sitting in front of a computer 24 hours a day.
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Bluelight-R006
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Postby Bluelight-R006 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:10 am

Ghost Land wrote:
Bluelight-R006 wrote:Stay logged in into your nation. That way the oldest telegram(s) don’t go. Unless, this nation is your puppet nation for another nation and you are logged in into your main account.

By definition, I'm not logged in when my computer is off. There's an auto-logout after 30-60 minutes anyway IIRC, and as I said, I'm not sitting in front of a computer 24 hours a day.

Probably different for you. I use a phone to play NationStates.

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Bauscland
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Bauscland » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:32 am

Yarosluv wrote:We should be able to block TGs World Assembly Compliance Commission. Plain and simple.

Agreed

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Pangurstan
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Postby Pangurstan » Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:05 am

If you select the telegram, you can block the sender.
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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:45 am

I agree. It's bloody iritating
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Postby Australian rePublic » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:53 am

Diwi wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Sixteen of 22,939 member nations have spoken. Not exactly a groundswell.

I agree that a block would be helpful on WA resolutions passed ... but the ones about being ejected are also from the World Assembly something-or-other, aren't they? Those shouldn't be blocked. This has been requested and ignored before. It's ultimately up to Admin to decide.

I dunno mate, 16 people is a lotta people :c

Not to mention that this isn't the only time it's brought up:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=474772

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=480253

And from what I've learnt about customer service is that for every person that complains about XYZ there's dozens more who have the same thought but don't want to complain
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:27 pm

Hello,

I was thinking of a middle-ground change where notifications of new World Assembly legislation/repeals could be moved to the Notices system. The Notices system already has capabilities for compulsory notifications, such as incorrect password attempts.
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Postby Holor Retcon Starkiller » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:47 am

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Yarosluv
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Postby Yarosluv » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:14 pm

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Lothric-
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Postby Lothric- » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:53 pm

oh I found it, I like how theres a bunch of support for this feature and yet the ns mods havent done anything to implement it kek :bow: :rofl:

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:27 pm

Lothric- wrote:the ns mods havent done anything to implement it

That would be due to the fact that the mods don't implement anything except rules and warnings. Changing game code requires an admin.
Lothric- wrote: kek :bow: :rofl:

Adding annoying smilies to your post won't improve your chances of seeing this implemented.

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Lothric-
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Postby Lothric- » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:06 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Lothric- wrote:the ns mods havent done anything to implement it

That would be due to the fact that the mods don't implement anything except rules and warnings. Changing game code requires an admin.
Lothric- wrote: kek :bow: :rofl:

Adding annoying smilies to your post won't improve your chances of seeing this implemented.

Yikes somebody got all butthurt, did I hurt your feelings because I said something true? Incoming, more annoying smiles :rofl: :eek: :D

Also, doesn't change the fact that something the community wants has yet to be implemented soo.....yeah
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Harmonic Empire
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Postby Harmonic Empire » Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:11 pm

2 Compliance Commission TGs per 5 day? I dont mind that actually.
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:00 am

Lothric- wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:That would be due to the fact that the mods don't implement anything except rules and warnings. Changing game code requires an admin.

Adding annoying smilies to your post won't improve your chances of seeing this implemented.

Yikes somebody got all butthurt, did I hurt your feelings because I said something true? Incoming, more annoying smiles :rofl: :eek: :D

Also, doesn't change the fact that something the community wants has yet to be implemented soo.....yeah


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Also, doesn't change the fact that you're expected to act in a civil manner on the forums, soo.....yeah
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:39 am

Honestly, while those telegrams do seem annoying, it's better to know that the results are being changed accordingly than to wake up one morning and find out that your stats have changed without you noticing.

I feel we should not be allowed to block them, because if we can, the mods will be dealing with an angry flood of "why did my stats suddenly change!?" requests every time a WA resolution is passed.
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Lothric-
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Postby Lothric- » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:12 am

Lamoni wrote:
Lothric- wrote:Yikes somebody got all butthurt, did I hurt your feelings because I said something true? Incoming, more annoying smiles :rofl: :eek: :D

Also, doesn't change the fact that something the community wants has yet to be implemented soo.....yeah


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Also, doesn't change the fact that you're expected to act in a civil manner on the forums, soo.....yeah

So a Mod can call someone annoying but I can't say "annoying smiles" back? uhhhh, nice

Like I suspected though, game mods will defend their moderators even when they're in the wrong. Maybe warn the person who insulted first, thanks! :hug:
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