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Region messages not working...again! (SOLVED SEE FOR~~~)

Postby New Swisland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:30 am

The regional message board is not working in Nations United (for me). It has deleted some new posts, and the text box disappears, along with the side bar going blank. How do I make this stop?
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Postby New Swisland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:35 am

New Swisland wrote:The regional message board is not working in Nations United (for me). It has deleted some new posts, and the text box disappears, along with the side bar going blank. How do I make this stop?

I cannot also read any new messages in the board.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:12 am

Moved, Got Issues :arrow: Technical. (Read the forum descriptions, please)

There's nothing wrong with your region's RMB, so it's probably your computer. Try clearing your browser cache. If you're using the NS++ addon, try disabling it.

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Postby New Swisland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:19 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:Moved, Got Issues :arrow: Technical. (Read the forum descriptions, please)

There's nothing wrong with your region's RMB, so it's probably your computer. Try clearing your browser cache. If you're using the NS++ addon, try disabling it.

Tried both! :\
Cleared everything, disabled everything, and restarted everything! I downloaded NS++ yesterday, but it worked fine all day yesterday!
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag1 ... 661e9e.png
Here is a picture of what it looks like in the region board, if you are fimiliar with NS++ you'll know that it should show a sidebar.
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Postby New Swisland » Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:22 am

Suddenly working again!
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:15 am

It seems the problem, is whenever I try to post a regional message containing Cyrillic characters (Russian), this happens...would a NS mod or Admin consider fixing this, asap?
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:19 am

New Swisland wrote:It seems the problem, is whenever I try to post a regional message containing Cyrillic characters (Russian), this happens...would a NS mod or Admin consider fixing this, asap?

Fairly sure it can't be fixed easily. I hit similar issues, the RMB uses windows-1252 encoding which is a horrible character encoding that does not allow many non-English characters.
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:26 am

Shadow Afforess wrote:
New Swisland wrote:It seems the problem, is whenever I try to post a regional message containing Cyrillic characters (Russian), this happens...would a NS mod or Admin consider fixing this, asap?

Fairly sure it can't be fixed easily. I hit similar issues, the RMB uses windows-1252 encoding which is a horrible character encoding that does not allow many non-English characters.

Last time it fixed itself after a cache clear, NS++ uninstall and restart...but didn't do so until about 45 minutes afterwards...and it's been nearly a day.
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Postby Ballotonia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:35 pm

New Swisland wrote:It seems the problem, is whenever I try to post a regional message containing Cyrillic characters (Russian), this happens...would a NS mod or Admin consider fixing this, asap?


I'm not sure whether you're having a problem with NS or with NS++.

EDIT: since your screenshot is clearly NS++, I suggest uninstalling it, clearing your browser cache, restarting your browser, and then trying again. If it fails then, please make a screenshot of that situation. If not, please post about your problem in the NS++ thread since it would be for Afforess to fix, not us.

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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:14 pm

Ballotonia wrote:
New Swisland wrote:It seems the problem, is whenever I try to post a regional message containing Cyrillic characters (Russian), this happens...would a NS mod or Admin consider fixing this, asap?


I'm not sure whether you're having a problem with NS or with NS++.

EDIT: since your screenshot is clearly NS++, I suggest uninstalling it, clearing your browser cache, restarting your browser, and then trying again. If it fails then, please make a screenshot of that situation. If not, please post about your problem in the NS++ thread since it would be for Afforess to fix, not us.

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The problem still remains...I could telegram you my pass, and you try to fix it somehow...or...we could use TeamViewer?
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Postby Ballotonia » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:28 pm

New Swisland wrote:The problem still remains...I could telegram you my pass, and you try to fix it somehow...or...we could use TeamViewer?
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag1 ... 661e9e.png (Larger than 900 pixels...you need to use manual overdrive!)


The screenshot you're showing here still has NS++ installed and running.

I don't need your password, nor will I log into your computer remotely.

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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:31 pm

Ballotonia wrote:
New Swisland wrote:The problem still remains...I could telegram you my pass, and you try to fix it somehow...or...we could use TeamViewer?
http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag1 ... 661e9e.png (Larger than 900 pixels...you need to use manual overdrive!)


The screenshot you're showing here still has NS++ installed and running.

I don't need your password, nor will I log into your computer remotely.

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I know. I did everything you asked...and it didn't work w/o it...so I re installed it...but this screenshot is from the first time it happened a few days ago...but you get the point...It seems to happen every time I use Cyrillic characters.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:38 pm

New Swisland wrote:It seems to happen every time I use Cyrillic characters.

[violet] has explained elsewhere that our system uses a mish-mash of character sets. Trying to get everything to behave as if it had a uniform UTF-8 character set would require far more work than any of our admins are interested in, right down to a major re-write of the entire game.

So, as a workaround ... don't post Cyrillic characters.

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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:41 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
New Swisland wrote:It seems to happen every time I use Cyrillic characters.

[violet] has explained elsewhere that our system uses a mish-mash of character sets. Trying to get everything to behave as if it had a uniform UTF-8 character set would require far more work than any of our admins are interested in, right down to a major re-write of the entire game.

So, as a workaround ... don't post Cyrillic characters.

Understood.
But...how do I fix it >.<
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Postby Shadow Afforess » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:44 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
New Swisland wrote:It seems to happen every time I use Cyrillic characters.

[violet] has explained elsewhere that our system uses a mish-mash of character sets. Trying to get everything to behave as if it had a uniform UTF-8 character set would require far more work than any of our admins are interested in, right down to a major re-write of the entire game.

So, as a workaround ... don't post Cyrillic characters.

I actually have a table that converts the windows-1252 format to UTF, happy to help a conversion process.
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:46 pm

Shadow Afforess wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:[violet] has explained elsewhere that our system uses a mish-mash of character sets. Trying to get everything to behave as if it had a uniform UTF-8 character set would require far more work than any of our admins are interested in, right down to a major re-write of the entire game.

So, as a workaround ... don't post Cyrillic characters.

I actually have a table that converts the windows-1252 format to UTF, happy to help a conversion process.

God, this is confusing...
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:48 pm

New Swisland wrote:God, this is confusing...
TeamViewer?

Shadow Afforess is offering his services to the site, not your problem.

Try logging out and logging back in after disabling NS++.

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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:54 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
New Swisland wrote:God, this is confusing...
TeamViewer?

Shadow Afforess is offering his services to the site, not your problem.

Try logging out and logging back in after disabling NS++.

Oh okay, should I uninstall it, or just disable for a few minutes?
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:05 pm

New Swisland wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Shadow Afforess is offering his services to the site, not your problem.

Try logging out and logging back in after disabling NS++.

Oh okay, should I uninstall it, or just disable for a few minutes?

Didn't work...
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:53 pm

Did you guys fix it, or are currently fixing it.
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Postby New Swisland » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:28 pm

Found out how to fix it....when your regional chat gets full and needs to go on a second page, it fixes!
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Postby Mousebumples » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:47 pm

For the record, the last 4 posts are yours in this thread - and they've all been posted over the span of 3 hours. The edit button is your friend as such frequent bumping of a thread in the Techncial forum is frowned upon.
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Postby [violet] » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:33 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:more work than any of our admins are interested in

It's still on my list, it's just a huge job for something that 98% of users won't notice.

It's mostly painful because of the volume of stuff that needs to switch over simultaneously... challenging when you have 11 years of accumulated data.

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Postby Shadow Afforess » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:19 am

[violet] wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:more work than any of our admins are interested in

It's still on my list, it's just a huge job for something that 98% of users won't notice.

It's mostly painful because of the volume of stuff that needs to switch over simultaneously... challenging when you have 11 years of accumulated data.

Heh. Should only be a few years of data, not 11 though. If you do make the switch, please do announce it.
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