Nation name release!

[Terra Novam]

To any senior moderator:
Could you TG me? Transnapastain said I had to ask a senior mod to help with my issue...
I have a problem restoring my original nation. Actually, a lot of problems.

[The Blaatschapen]

To any senior moderator:
Could you TG me? Transnapastain said I had to ask a senior mod to help with my issue...
I have a problem restoring my original nation. Actually, a lot of problems.

I suggest using http://www.nationstates.net/page=help

[PrussianEmpire]

Hello!
I'd was wondering if y'all could raise the population limit to 350 million. IMHO, 250 million is just too low. Just think of how many nations would become available!
Haha thanks for reading this,
Prussia.

[Aksun]

There is already a thread to discuss raising the population requirement.

[PrussianEmpire]

Thanks for the correct forum link!

[Suicune]

I'm not quite sure, what does it mean when it says that this name was soiled by a former nation? and is there any way to make that nation available in the future, provided it adheres to the guidelines?

[San Leggera]

I'm not quite sure, what does it mean when it says that this name was soiled by a former nation? and is there any way to make that nation available in the future, provided it adheres to the guidelines?

It means the nation was deleted by a moderator for rules violations.

[Frisbeeteria]

is there any way to make that nation available in the future, provided it adheres to the guidelines?

No. They're gone.

[Zambrinia]

Only 2 years till the name I want is available!

[Terran Hegemony]

I'm aware this usually isn't done without having caused major infractions, but could someone change my nation name? I'm really not happy with this one since the name I wanted was already in use, and when I thought of a suitable one I found out you can't change it so I'm asking an admin if you could please do that.
Thanks in advance!

[Maltropia]

I'm aware this usually isn't done without having caused major infractions, but could someone change my nation name? I'm really not happy with this one since the name I wanted was already in use, and when I thought of a suitable one I found out you can't change it so I'm asking an admin if you could please do that.
Thanks in advance!

You could just create a new nation?

[Terran Hegemony]

I could do that, but i'd have to start building rep all over again...

[Maltropia]

I could do that, but i'd have to start building rep all over again...

Just stick a line in your signature saying "Formerly the Terran Hegemony" or something like that. It happens all the time that people switch nation name that way.

[Terran Hegemony]

Could do that, but the registered nation name would still be the same...

[Maltropia]

Could do that, but the registered nation name would still be the same...

Not if you use this link.

[Terran Hegemony]

Ah, I see. I'll make a new nation then and try to Factbook it to my current nations.
Many thanks!

[Maltropia]

Ah, I see. I'll make a new nation then and try to Factbook it to my current nations.
Many thanks!

You're welcome. Good luck.

[The Cadian Dominion]

I just made my new nation!
- Terran Hegemony

[The Blaatschapen]

As long threatened, we're going to open up old nation names for re-use.

For a sneak preview, use this page to see if/when a particular nation name would become available:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=boneyard

Under the proposed rules, a name would be available for re-use unless the former owner:

1. is active
2. ceased to exist less than 5 years ago
3. accumulated a population of 250 million or more
4. founded an existing region
5. is mentioned in the History of an existing region
6. authored or was the subject of a WA resolution (incl. Historical ones)
7. authored an Issue
8. was a moderator or admin
9. was deleted by a mod
10. is marked as reserved by a Game Mod

There are a very large number of nation names that were used only briefly, and whose former owner is highly unlikely to ever return, so the feeling is that we should make those available for people who want them. Nations that hung around for a reasonable length of time, however, or ceased to exist relatively recently, or did something of particular note, should remain reserved in case the former owner one day wants to revive them.

If an old nation has its name re-used, it cannot be resurrected, even if the newer nation ceases to exist.

Please let me know your thoughts! There is some time before this will go live, and we can tweak in the meantime.

To anticipate a couple of questions:

Q: "250M population is too low." / "Five years is too long."
A: If the release goes well, we might look at loosening the restrictions in the future to make nations with slightly larger populations or more recent CTE dates available. But that's something to consider later.

Q: "Why does the Boneyard say different names will become available on different days?"
A: Just to spread things out, so we don't get hammered by everyone trying to reclaim an old name at once.

Hey. I'd like to propose a new rule. Nations that have Supporter (or higher), will also not be re-used.

[Kingdom of Phoenixia]

Hey. I'd like to propose a new rule. Nations that have Supporter (or higher), will also not be re-used.

To be honest it's not that problematic to get 250 Million Population and everyone who manages to get a supporter badge without hitting this limit (I thing at the maximum 2 played months as your population grows until you are going to CTE) has his own fault. Especially as he get a mail to ressurect his nation and has 5 years time to do so.
Also I don't think the majority of Supporters contained of newly created nations but more on older nations that hit the 250 Million population (or any other population limit that is realistical) without problems.

[Ballotonia]

Hey. I'd like to propose a new rule. Nations that have Supporter (or higher), will also not be re-used.

I like it when people think towards the future, sometimes even long term. Your proposal makes no difference for any nationin the next 5 years. At least it means we get to discuss this proposal at length, no need to rush towards implementation

Ballotonia

[The Blaatschapen]

Hey. I'd like to propose a new rule. Nations that have Supporter (or higher), will also not be re-used.

I like it when people think towards the future, sometimes even long term. Your proposal makes no difference for any nationin the next 5 years. At least it means we get to discuss this proposal at length, no need to rush towards implementation

Ballotonia

Take your time. Just as with the telegram system.

Ofcourse, in five years you can say the same thing again

Hey. I'd like to propose a new rule. Nations that have Supporter (or higher), will also not be re-used.

To be honest it's not that problematic to get 250 Million Population and everyone who manages to get a supporter badge without hitting this limit (I thing at the maximum 2 played months as your population grows until you are going to CTE) has his own fault. Especially as he get a mail to ressurect his nation and has 5 years time to do so.
Also I don't think the majority of Supporters contained of newly created nations but more on older nations that hit the 250 Million population (or any other population limit that is realistical) without problems.

I know. But. It's about fairness, I guess if you're willing to pay money for it, it just makes sense to not have your name reused by someone else.

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I did a short experiment where I spent 15 minutes entering nation names that came to mind in the Boneyard. All of these were unavailable yet under 1 billion population. Every nation with a single asterisk next to it had a population under 500 million. The nations with 2 asterisks by it were "soiled", a.k.a. DEATed.

What I want this list to illustrate is not the nations on it but the nations not on it. Imagine what the list would look like if other players put aside the same 15 minutes to do this experiment and posted their findings. Good nation names are being wasted for no good reason.

Gaul*
The Vatican*
Tibet*
Vermont
Purgatory
Firenze*
Woodbury
Atlantis**
The Virgin Islands
Townsville*
The Air Nomads**
Novus Ordo Seclorum*
Deseret*
Greenland*
Alexandria*
Wales
Ireland**
Finland
Serenity
Troy*
Sparta*
Athens*
Anarchy
The Milky Way*
Andromeda*
Domino*
The Keywork
Newport*
Utopia
Dystopia*
Hogwarts*

Therefore, I'd like to propose the following rule changes:

1. DEAT nations become available again after 5 years. Let's be honest with ourselves, this an internet forum. There is no crime heinous enough one can commit with a keyboard that their name has to be anathema for all eternity over. If that's too soon, even 7 or 8 years instead would open up lots of good names.

2. Extend the population rule from 250 million to a billion. This still will equal less than half a year of use. At the very least, look at all those asterisks. There is no conceivable reason on Earth to not let us touch the under 500 m ones, especially since more than half of the asterisked nations are now more than a decade old.

I'd like any players supportive of this idea to join my experiment and add to this list.

[Sedgistan]

See:

what if you want a RL country as a nation...

That's actually a bad argument for releasing more names. We've seen what happened last time old names were released: RL country names were instantly gobbled up by existing players who just wanted to add those to their puppet farms. New players never had a chance to obtain any of those. Release more RL country names, and the same will happen again.

The point of releasing names shouldn't be so existing players can have more 'cool' puppets, it IMHO should be to make it easier for new players to find a satisfactory nation name. And the question is hence whether the latter is a genuine problem right now.

Ballotonia

[Frisbeeteria]

There is no crime heinous enough one can commit with a keyboard that their name has to be anathema for all eternity over.

Says the guy who's been here just over a year. Lots of people have been playing this game for nearly a decade, and have lasting memories of Lyric, Nazi Weaponized Virus, Communist Mississippi, Klamath, Marathon and scores of others.

DEAT nations become available again after 5 years.

This also opens up all the variants of Penisland, I hate black people, i love cocks, and a blue million ex-nations we'd just as soon never see again. No thanks.

I'm not personally averse to opening the limits to 500 million. I'm certain we'll eventually do so. But appeals to popularity are probably not going to cause the admins to change this policy, or the existing thread on the topic would have been enough to make the case.