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Wara-Salas
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Postby Wara-Salas » Thu May 30, 2019 3:57 am

Option 2 on the issue "Down in the Groove" says that the leader of your country insists on not listening to the song that the teenager wrote, but doesn't one of the rules when making issues say that you shouldn't say how the leader of a person's country should react to situations whilst this is breaking that rule?
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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu May 30, 2019 4:32 am

Wara-Salas wrote:Option 2 on the issue "Down in the Groove" says that the leader of your country insists on not listening to the song that the teenager wrote, but doesn't one of the rules when making issues say that you shouldn't say how the leader of a person's country should react to situations whilst this is breaking that rule?

Amended.

Have changed:
Looking disappointed by your insistence on not hearing the song, he resumes.


to

Looking disappointed by @@HIS@@ would-be audience's insistence on not hearing the song, @@HE@@ resumes.


As that implies the professor and the Minister of Education, not @@LEADER@@
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri May 31, 2019 1:19 am

So, #542 4 is unavailable for nations with Socialism... but not to nations with Autarky? It specifically mentions "international clients".

Though I guess the option is corrupt enough that some hypocricy / law-breaking isn't entirely out-of-place, but you still need a CEO to suggest it in the first place.

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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 1:42 am

Trotterdam wrote:So, #542 4 is unavailable for nations with Socialism... but not to nations with Autarky? It specifically mentions "international clients".

Amended.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 5:24 am

151 outcome 2 has been bugging me for a while

"The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." is badly written and should be changed to something like "The nation has recently been accused of funding terrorist organisations."
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 5:30 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:151 outcome 2 has been bugging me for a while

"The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." is badly written and should be changed to something like "The nation has recently been accused of funding terrorist organisations."

Another word could have been used but it's not a necessary fix, and we don't perform subjective changes on this thread.

"Attributed to" means "cited as the source or reason for something".

I don't see the need to change it.

Edit: For future reference, things we change on this thread are visible objective errors with grammar, spelling and punctuation, suspected validity and macros errors and other such issues.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 5:34 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:151 outcome 2 has been bugging me for a while

"The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." is badly written and should be changed to something like "The nation has recently been accused of funding terrorist organisations."

Another word could have been used but it's not a necessary fix, and we don't perform subjective changes on this thread.

"Attributed to" means "cited as the source or reason for something".

I don't see the need to change it.


no, that's the other way around. if you were dead set on using the words "attributed to", it should be "The funding of terrorist organisations has been attributed to the nation." which would be clunky but semantically correct, unlike the current phrasing, which is wrong.

edit: "The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." = "The funding of terrorist organisations has recently been cited as the source or reason for the nation."
this is the converse of what the outcome is meant to say!
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 5:50 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Another word could have been used but it's not a necessary fix, and we don't perform subjective changes on this thread.

"Attributed to" means "cited as the source or reason for something".

I don't see the need to change it.


no, that's the other way around. if you were dead set on using the words "attributed to", it should be "The funding of terrorist organisations has been attributed to the nation." which would be clunky but semantically correct, unlike the current phrasing, which is wrong.

edit: "The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." = "The funding of terrorist organisations has recently been cited as the source or reason for the nation."
this is the converse of what the outcome is meant to say!

Are you quite sure that's not what it's trying to say (that the nation will exist at the behest of terrorist organisations, and vice versa)

The option clearly implies that some of the foreign clients, to whom the nation sells weapons, will try to influence government:

“Why stop with making weapons for ourselves?” asks Cassandra Ephron, CEO of Wendy’s Weapons stores. “We can sell them to all sorts of groups and organisations: other nations, the WA, terror- uh - freedom fighters, anyone! And we produce our own for our protection. Think of the money we can make! I’m sure none of our clients would ever even think of trying to use them to influence our government with threats or anything like that!”


The current wording is more vague, more open to interpretation, and frankly, more interesting.

No change will be made.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 5:53 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:
no, that's the other way around. if you were dead set on using the words "attributed to", it should be "The funding of terrorist organisations has been attributed to the nation." which would be clunky but semantically correct, unlike the current phrasing, which is wrong.

edit: "The nation has recently been attributed to the funding of terrorist organisations." = "The funding of terrorist organisations has recently been cited as the source or reason for the nation."
this is the converse of what the outcome is meant to say!

Are you quite sure that's not what it's trying to say (that the nation will exist at the behest of terrorist organisations, and vice versa)

The option clearly implies that some of the foreign clients, to whom the nation sells weapons, will try to influence government:

“Why stop with making weapons for ourselves?” asks Cassandra Ephron, CEO of Wendy’s Weapons stores. “We can sell them to all sorts of groups and organisations: other nations, the WA, terror- uh - freedom fighters, anyone! And we produce our own for our protection. Think of the money we can make! I’m sure none of our clients would ever even think of trying to use them to influence our government with threats or anything like that!”


The current wording is more vague, more open to interpretation, and frankly, more interesting.

No change will be made.

this makes no sense. the nation already exists prior to taking this issue.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 5:58 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Are you quite sure that's not what it's trying to say (that the nation will exist at the behest of terrorist organisations, and vice versa)

The option clearly implies that some of the foreign clients, to whom the nation sells weapons, will try to influence government:

“Why stop with making weapons for ourselves?” asks Cassandra Ephron, CEO of Wendy’s Weapons stores. “We can sell them to all sorts of groups and organisations: other nations, the WA, terror- uh - freedom fighters, anyone! And we produce our own for our protection. Think of the money we can make! I’m sure none of our clients would ever even think of trying to use them to influence our government with threats or anything like that!”


The current wording is more vague, more open to interpretation, and frankly, more interesting.

No change will be made.

this makes no sense. the nation already exists prior to taking this issue.

The hostile country purchases weapons, that they could turn on the country that sold them (which also has weapons). Both countries depend on each other for continued existence, and may be coerced into listening to each other's policy suggestions by threats to their future existence.

Please consider this topic closed.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 6:11 am

words have meanings, actually.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 6:13 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:words have meanings, actually.

As it seems you missed a relevant portion of my post, I'll quote myself:
The Free Joy State wrote:
Please consider this topic closed.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 6:17 am

maybe you should change the title of the thread if it doesn't actually describe what you want.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri May 31, 2019 6:25 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:maybe you should change the title of the thread if it doesn't actually describe what you want.


If you only came into this thread to argue, despite being asked by a staff member to stop, then move along before you get a warning.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Fri May 31, 2019 6:27 am

Lamoni wrote:
Mettaton-EX wrote:maybe you should change the title of the thread if it doesn't actually describe what you want.


If you only came into this thread to argue, despite being asked by a staff member to stop, then move along before you get a warning.


i didn't! i only started to argue once this person refused to fix an obvious error because they can't admit they were wrong.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri May 31, 2019 6:31 am

Mettaton-EX wrote:
Lamoni wrote:
If you only came into this thread to argue, despite being asked by a staff member to stop, then move along before you get a warning.


i didn't! i only started to argue once this person refused to fix an obvious error because they can't admit they were wrong.


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Postby Gallopavia » Fri May 31, 2019 2:18 pm

Issue 680, option 3

“The problem is not in the stars,” laments astronomer Sherlock Kapoor, a Capricorn whom is feeling somewhat under the weather this week. “Instead, it lies with our tools. We lack the powerful telescopes needed to see through this cloud cover. With a small contribution from the public, we can build a gigantic telescope that will give us pictures of the constellations no matter what the weather may be!”


It should be "who."

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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 6:08 pm

Gallopavia wrote:Issue 680, option 3

“The problem is not in the stars,” laments astronomer Sherlock Kapoor, a Capricorn whom is feeling somewhat under the weather this week. “Instead, it lies with our tools. We lack the powerful telescopes needed to see through this cloud cover. With a small contribution from the public, we can build a gigantic telescope that will give us pictures of the constellations no matter what the weather may be!”


It should be "who."

Fixed.
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri May 31, 2019 10:03 pm

New effect line "all @@DEMONYMADJECTIVEPLURAL@@ love the taste of self-sufficiency" should use "@@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@". (I got lucky that the first nation I spotted it on just happened to have demonyms which are different enough to notice.)

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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri May 31, 2019 10:05 pm

Trotterdam wrote:New effect line "all @@DEMONYMADJECTIVEPLURAL@@ love the taste of self-sufficiency" should use "@@DEMONYMNOUNPLURAL@@". (I got lucky that the first nation I spotted it on just happened to have demonyms which are different enough to notice.)

Found and fixing now.
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Postby Merni » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:52 am

Issue 951 option 1:
Communicating via telecom to your office is the spokesperson for the Cult of the Dammed, Kelly Tizad, holding a sinister-looking frozen vial. “On behalf of our leader, the Fish King, we demand a total repeal of all fishing industry regulations and for the government of Merni to relinquish control of all waterways to the Cult of the Dammed and our approved fisheries! Anything less than this and we will release a genetically engineered virus that shall see the end of aquatic biodiversity as you know it!”


Doesn't "telecom" just mean "telecommunications"? This doesn't seem to make sense.

Maybe it meant to say "telecon", i.e. "teleconference"?
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:03 am

Merni wrote:Issue 951 option 1:
Communicating via telecom to your office is the spokesperson for the Cult of the Dammed, Kelly Tizad, holding a sinister-looking frozen vial. “On behalf of our leader, the Fish King, we demand a total repeal of all fishing industry regulations and for the government of Merni to relinquish control of all waterways to the Cult of the Dammed and our approved fisheries! Anything less than this and we will release a genetically engineered virus that shall see the end of aquatic biodiversity as you know it!”


Doesn't "telecom" just mean "telecommunications"? This doesn't seem to make sense.

Maybe it meant to say "telecon", i.e. "teleconference"?

Amended. She's now communicating "via video-link"
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Postby Merni » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:27 am

The Free Joy State wrote:Amended. She's now communicating "via video-link"

Thanks!
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Postby Amjedia » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:12 am

Issue 1166: Acres Wild

The Issue:

Upon the planned completion of their vacation estate in northern @@NAME@@, a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ billionaire has additionally, and unexpectedly, purchased the vast bulk of a large forest adjacent to their property for the sole purpose of stocking and hunting @@ANIMALPLURAL@@.


I got the following :

Upon the planned completion of their vacation estate in northern Amjedia, a Amjedian billionaire has additionally, and unexpectedly, purchased the vast bulk of a large forest adjacent to their property for the sole purpose of stocking and hunting Monsters.

Shouldn't it be @@A@@ @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ instead of a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ ?
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:10 am

Amjedia wrote:
Issue 1166: Acres Wild

The Issue:

Upon the planned completion of their vacation estate in northern @@NAME@@, a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ billionaire has additionally, and unexpectedly, purchased the vast bulk of a large forest adjacent to their property for the sole purpose of stocking and hunting @@ANIMALPLURAL@@.


I got the following :

Upon the planned completion of their vacation estate in northern Amjedia, a Amjedian billionaire has additionally, and unexpectedly, purchased the vast bulk of a large forest adjacent to their property for the sole purpose of stocking and hunting Monsters.

Shouldn't it be @@A@@ @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ instead of a @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ ?

Fixed.
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