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Vavlar
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Founded: Jan 11, 2022
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Postby Vavlar » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:31 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:-snip0

Wayne, if you have nothing to do but criticize TGS, TGU, TEO, and others yet do nothing, then you have no right to criticize us.

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The Orwell Society
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Postby The Orwell Society » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:35 pm

Vavlar wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:-snip0

Wayne, if you have nothing to do but criticize TGS, TGU, TEO, and others yet do nothing, then you have no right to criticize us.

For once, I'm in defense of Wayne. Yes, he just sits on his ass and criticizes anything and everything in the NSGP world, but this time he's right. Do your research and brand the operation correctly instead of bloating it to be something it's not.
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Fort Concord
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Founded: Jun 12, 2022
Democratic Socialists

Postby Fort Concord » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:38 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:
Vavlar wrote:Wayne, if you have nothing to do but criticize TGS, TGU, TEO, and others yet do nothing, then you have no right to criticize us.

For once, I'm in defense of Wayne. Yes, he just sits on his ass and criticizes anything and everything in the NSGP world, but this time he's right. Do your research and brand the operation correctly instead of bloating it to be something it's not.

I didn't see anybody complaining in 2021 when the understanding was that Lardyland would be raided with anti-fascist motivations in mind, if not directly by Antifa.

I absolutely loathe to be defending the regions involved in this, but I'm not sure what the complaint is. Lardyland (or its predecessor/affiliate? Fuck if I remember these days) was a member of the Virtu League, an alliance involving Farkasfalka. They used to have shit like Hitler quotes on their RMB.

Get off these guys' backs.

EDIT: I've covered this before. Shame the RMB got wiped, but good thing I used descriptive links. ;)
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:30 pm

I do find it incredibly amusing that they tagged the region and started establishing embassies, and Spams is going to keep the embassies lol. LL is an embassy collector and used to be a bunch of spammers. That in my opinion is a good enough reason to burn it to the ground. I am all for raiding it, but at least show some good form while raiding it and raid it for the right reasons. Given that Spams is keeping the embassies, and given that LL was raided for being fascist, shall those regions that raided it and choose to maintain diplomatic relations in the form of an embassy be placed of the CDS list? Or raided for being fascist?

As for Vavlar? Don't you have another 17000 or so regions which haven't existed in years, but you heard a story about one time, to go refound and claim some victory?

As for the rest of you? Maybe learn some decent form and you MAY actually get good at this.
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All Wild Things
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby All Wild Things » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:19 am

Fort Concord wrote:I didn't see anybody complaining in 2021 when the understanding was that Lardyland would be raided with anti-fascist motivations in mind, if not directly by Antifa.

I absolutely loathe to be defending the regions involved in this, but I'm not sure what the complaint is. Lardyland (or its predecessor/affiliate? Fuck if I remember these days) was a member of the Virtu League, an alliance involving Farkasfalka. They used to have shit like Hitler quotes on their RMB.

Get off these guys' backs.

EDIT: I've covered this before. Shame the RMB got wiped, but good thing I used descriptive links. ;)

Some people did complain in 2021. Not many - there are very few people with reason to come to the defence of Lardyland, and very few who would want to risk being labelled as fascist sympathisers.
As I recall, it was "Hitler quote" singular - a contextless post by a random nation that no-one responded to, surrounded by a sea of spam where Captain Lard was playing with spelling variations of "Pinochet Executioners", including the classic post, "Pinophile".
Pinny may very well have had far-right opinions (I don't know either way), and very definitely made bad decisions about that alliance & doubling down on it. But most folk in Lardyland just seemed to be there to spread stupid rather than spread any ideology. They never appeared toxic in the same way as Farkasfalka and Genua.
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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:26 am

All Wild Things wrote:They never appeared toxic in the same way as Farkasfalka and Genua.


Yet they entered into a military alliance with the former, and as I've previously explained, justified that alliance with one of the site's most prolific Nazi regions by claiming it was necessary to the end of opposing Antifa and socialism.
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Malphe II
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Postby Malphe II » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:32 am

I'm fine with this, the edgy kid flavour of weirdo that just doesn't care when they interact with fascists isn't much less desirable than the fascists themselves. Good work.
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Portzania
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Postby Portzania » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:40 am

So is TEO starting back up with operations or something? I haven't heard of an important/big raid by them in a hot minute.
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Tartan Army
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Postby Tartan Army » Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:51 am

As much as I dislike Vavlar and TEO, i don't feel any sympathy for Lardyland. Lardyland has embassies with Raxulan Empire which is known for having a founder who is very blatantly Homophobic.

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All Wild Things
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Postby All Wild Things » Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:43 am

Tartan Army wrote:As much as I dislike Vavlar and TEO, i don't feel any sympathy for Lardyland. Lardyland has embassies with Raxulan Empire which is known for having a founder who is very blatantly Homophobic.


I'm not wanting to die on Lardyland Hill, but I wouldn't label everyone in Lardyland a homophobe because of that, just like I wouldn't label everyone a fascist because of Pinny's views and actions.
Malphe II wrote:...the edgy kid flavour of weirdo that just doesn't care when they interact with fascists ...

Now that looks like an appropriate label!
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Zabloing
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Founded: Jun 17, 2021
Ex-Nation

Postby Zabloing » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:45 pm

All Wild Things wrote:
Tartan Army wrote:As much as I dislike Vavlar and TEO, i don't feel any sympathy for Lardyland. Lardyland has embassies with Raxulan Empire which is known for having a founder who is very blatantly Homophobic.


I'm not wanting to die on Lardyland Hill, but I wouldn't label everyone in Lardyland a homophobe because of that, just like I wouldn't label everyone a fascist because of Pinny's views and actions.

Where did I say that they are all Homophobes?
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The Universe World
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Postby The Universe World » Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:51 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:After reading through that shit show, I am beginning to think this isn't the eternal order I remember. That organization could at least show a shred of professionalism. This looked like it was being conducted by a bunch of 16 year old trolls. First, arguing with Rasticus is akin to running you head off the wall. It will only leave you with a headache and a flat head. Suppressing his posts while laughing at him only proved his point further. Second, Spams is right. Most of you weren't even on the site when the region was at the height of it annoyance factor. The region at one time did contain a few edgelords who thought it was cool to play nazi, but for the most part, they were just annoying. They didn't even come close to KR or CCD. So perhaps, TGU and TGS and all the others should rely less on bad storytelling and actually dig in and do some research of their own? If you are going to burn the region, burn it because it is available, and because the region was once a source of mild annoyance to the community. Don't use the mantle of an actual antifascist operation as some bullshit excuse.

P.S. Discussing operational plans on the RMB should probably be the first thing to avoid, but that's just me.....

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Improper Classifications
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TEO IS FASCIST.

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:37 am

Asking for a friend here.... Is there some particular reason you maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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Postby Improper Classifications » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:42 am

WayNeacTia wrote:Asking for a friend here.... Is there some particular reason you maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region?

If you mean Lardyland, it's because the two government officials with Embassy powers are inactive most of the time (one controls the Founder) and so we cannot withdraw it.
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:48 am

Improper Classifications wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Asking for a friend here.... Is there some particular reason you maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region?

If you mean Lardyland, it's because the two government officials with Embassy powers are inactive most of the time (one controls the Founder) and so we cannot withdraw it.

Fair. Oh and Fascists United? Nice.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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The Hurricane
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Postby The Hurricane » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:30 am

Improper Classifications wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Asking for a friend here.... Is there some particular reason you maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region?

If you mean Lardyland, it's because the two government officials with Embassy powers are inactive most of the time (one controls the Founder) and so we cannot withdraw it.


Why not ask the WA Delegate? They have executive.
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:33 am

The Hurricane wrote:
Improper Classifications wrote:If you mean Lardyland, it's because the two government officials with Embassy powers are inactive most of the time (one controls the Founder) and so we cannot withdraw it.


Why not ask the WA Delegate? They have executive.

Some reason you are maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region as well?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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The Hurricane
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Postby The Hurricane » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:37 am

WayNeacTia wrote:
The Hurricane wrote:
Why not ask the WA Delegate? They have executive.

Some reason you are maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region as well?


I am? With what region?

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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:48 am

The Hurricane wrote:
WayNeacTia wrote:Some reason you are maintaining embassies with a "fascist" region as well?


I am? With what region?

Do you not own the region Hurricane?
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

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The Hurricane
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Postby The Hurricane » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:43 am

WayNeacTia wrote:
The Hurricane wrote:
I am? With what region?

Do you not own the region Hurricane?

It's an embassy I forgot to close.

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Improper Classifications
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Postby Improper Classifications » Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:19 pm

The Hurricane wrote:
Improper Classifications wrote:If you mean Lardyland, it's because the two government officials with Embassy powers are inactive most of the time (one controls the Founder) and so we cannot withdraw it.


Why not ask the WA Delegate? They have executive.

We are constitutionally blocked from doing so - members of the High Council are the only ones allowed to have Embassy permissions.
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Postby Team Leo » Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:09 pm

Anyways, with all that put aside, nice fash bashin coup eh? :P

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Postby Timiskrane » Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:55 pm

Improper Classifications wrote:
The Hurricane wrote:
Why not ask the WA Delegate? They have executive.

We are constitutionally blocked from doing so - members of the High Council are the only ones allowed to have Embassy permissions.

With all due respect that seems kinda silly. To intentionally kneecap yourself by making it so you can't do anything without the permission of people who aren't active. You should at least have a delegation of command so someone can authorize it on their behalf when they're away.
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Postby Rusticus I Damianus » Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:09 am

Tartan Army wrote:As much as I dislike Vavlar and TEO, i don't feel any sympathy for Lardyland. Lardyland has embassies with Raxulan Empire which is known for having a founder who is very blatantly Homophobic.

*Blatantly Christian you mean.
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