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The Official Embassy Thread of The Iron Confederacy

Postby Tupolite » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:39 pm

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THE OFFICIAL EMBASSY THREAD OF The Iron Confederacy

You saw that right. This is so that anyone may publicly field their various questions about TIC domestic and foreign policy, as well as questions about our ideology. All official responses should be considered as carrying the full weight of the government of The Iron Confederacy behind it. Ad hominems will only receive a response if they're clever enough.
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Tupolite wrote:Sentience: The wherewithal to recognize when a gun is pointed at your head
Intelligence: The comprehension that the proper course of action is to get out of its way.

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Holy crap, this is so close to being a rational thought it's physically painful.

Greater Victora wrote:What would happen if you were to combine a bunch of political ideologies I loathe with a passion? You'd get Tupolite. The only thing I don't hate about them is their pro-socioeconomic equality and maybe cultural christianity but that is it.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:47 pm

Tupolite wrote:This is mainly for the benefit of other fascists and Third Positionists, in addition to miscellaneous sympathetic factions, to publicly field their various questions about TIC domestic and foreign policy, as well as questions about our ideology.

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Postby Tupolite » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:53 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Tupolite wrote:This is mainly for the benefit of other fascists and Third Positionists, in addition to miscellaneous sympathetic factions, to publicly field their various questions about TIC domestic and foreign policy, as well as questions about our ideology.

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The problematic sentence has been fixed. Thank you for pointing out the gaffe.
Tupolite wrote:Sentience: The wherewithal to recognize when a gun is pointed at your head
Intelligence: The comprehension that the proper course of action is to get out of its way.

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Holy crap, this is so close to being a rational thought it's physically painful.

Greater Victora wrote:What would happen if you were to combine a bunch of political ideologies I loathe with a passion? You'd get Tupolite. The only thing I don't hate about them is their pro-socioeconomic equality and maybe cultural christianity but that is it.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 am

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Postby Xoriet » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:04 am

Oh, it's you guys. That's not fun nice. :meh:
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Postby New French Etat » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:35 am

Very nice to see that this is finally up! Thank you Tupolite.
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Postby Vando0sa » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:47 pm

You banned my puppet.. that was not very nice.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:00 pm

Oh good, we had just exhausted our last punching bag.
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Postby Rhomain » Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:32 pm

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Postby Kaystein » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:53 pm

I think you're on the wrong forum. All that emo and edge with your aesthetics belong in gothwire..

Oh wait, any goth website worth it's spit wouldn't accept any of you being on there.

Guess you're all stuck in your little corners of the web.
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Postby Rhomain » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:19 am

Does anyone have any questions?
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Postby East Meranopirus » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:32 am

Rhomain wrote:Does anyone have any questions?

Yeah, I have one. What made you think you won't get bashed the same way all the other fascists were (as you rightfully deserve)?

Also, my greetings to Tupolite. ;)
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Postby Rhomain » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:54 am

This is nice
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Postby Rhomain » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:01 am

“Here's forty shillings on the drum
To those who volunteer to come,
To 'list and fight the foe today
Over the Hills and far away.

Through smoke and fire and shot and shell,
And to the very walls of hell,
But we shall stand and we shall stay
Over the hills and far away

Though I may travel far from Spain
A part of me shall still remain,
And you are with me night and day
and Over the hills and far away.

Then fall in lads behind the drum
With colours blazing like the sun.
Along the road to come what may
Over the hills and far away.

When Evil stalks upon the land
I'll neither hold nor stay me hand
But fight to win a better day,
Over the hills and far away.

If I should fall to rise no more,
As many comrades did before,
Ask the fifes and drums to play
Over the hills and far away.

Let kings and tyrants come and go,
I'll stand adjudged by what I know.
A soldiers life I'll ne'er gainsay.
Over the hills and far away.

Though kings and tyrants come and go
A soldier's life is all I know
I'll live to fight another day
Over the hills and far away.

Old Wellington, he scratched his bum.
He says, "Boney lad, thee's had thee fun."
My riflemen will win the day
Over the hills and far away.”
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Postby Tupolite » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:05 pm

Disclaimer that only the posts of the Prime Secretary and the Emperador should be considered as official statements of the TIC government
Tupolite wrote:Sentience: The wherewithal to recognize when a gun is pointed at your head
Intelligence: The comprehension that the proper course of action is to get out of its way.

Lyrical International Brigade wrote:Holy crap, this is so close to being a rational thought it's physically painful.

Greater Victora wrote:What would happen if you were to combine a bunch of political ideologies I loathe with a passion? You'd get Tupolite. The only thing I don't hate about them is their pro-socioeconomic equality and maybe cultural christianity but that is it.
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Postby Indo-Malaysia » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:12 pm

Rhomain wrote:Does anyone have any questions?

Why are you not working to purge the fascism from your region?
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Postby Hispanyo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:59 am

to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?
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Postby Honeydewistania » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:25 am

Hispanyo wrote:to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?

Whichever one you are - you're still gonna get shat on.
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Postby Xoriet » Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:04 pm

Hispanyo wrote:to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?

Fascism put into practice has historically, on multiple occasions, dipped into Nazism and several fascist regimes have taken ideas and racial purity cues from Nazi Germany. Fascist regions on NS, which is the topic related to this thread and your region, often are found to harbor Neo-Nazis and supremacists. The Discords and RMBs of these regions are mires of hate speech, blatant racism, and Nazi propaganda and memes. Fascism attracts extremists of the worst variety, and that is what makes a fascist region the most problematic: The people who inhabit the regions and spread hateful ideologies. Fascism draws in Nazis and people in similar veins, and you know by now that NSGP doesn’t want them here.
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:50 pm

Hispanyo wrote:to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?

Indeed I do. However, it has an alarming tendency to slide straight into Nazism.
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Postby Hispanyo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:23 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Hispanyo wrote:to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?

Indeed I do. However, it has an alarming tendency to slide straight into Nazism.

We are not one of those regions. I bet you all know that already, we follow a More Authentical Fascist Way here, I'm not a Natsoc/Nazi either. we are careful about those people.
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Somos el Eterno Imperio Español Fascista!

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Formerly Borenzo

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Postby Hispanyo » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:25 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Hispanyo wrote:to all those who are anti-TIC here, Don't you all know the differences between Nazism and Fascism?

Fascism put into practice has historically, on multiple occasions, dipped into Nazism and several fascist regimes have taken ideas and racial purity cues from Nazi Germany. Fascist regions on NS, which is the topic related to this thread and your region, often are found to harbor Neo-Nazis and supremacists. The Discords and RMBs of these regions are mires of hate speech, blatant racism, and Nazi propaganda and memes. Fascism attracts extremists of the worst variety, and that is what makes a fascist region the most problematic: The people who inhabit the regions and spread hateful ideologies. Fascism draws in Nazis and people in similar veins, and you know by now that NSGP doesn’t want them here.

Like i said, We are not like that. we're fascists but not the Alt-right memer kind of "Fascist".
I'm Hispanyo!

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Formerly Borenzo

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:00 pm

Hispanyo wrote:
Jar Wattinree wrote:Indeed I do. However, it has an alarming tendency to slide straight into Nazism.

We are not one of those regions. I bet you all know that already, we follow a More Authentical Fascist Way here, I'm not a Natsoc/Nazi either. we are careful about those people.

I bet I have never payed attention to your region at all, outside of this forum thread. Fact of the matter is, we don’t quite like types like you either. You’re just a target instead of a high-priority target. If you want to remove the target from your region’s back, 86 the fascism all together.

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Postby Of crazed » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:09 pm

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Postby Kaystein » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:41 pm

I don't speak for NSGP. To be frank, the hardcore sects of it are cesspools. It sucks. But I'm not posting to rant about bullies.

Anyway..

Tim-Opolis wrote:If you want to remove the target from your region’s back, 86 the fascism all together.


^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you're professing to like the ideals that constitute fascism, then take this advice seriously; take those ideals, and run with them in another direction. Branch off from fascism, and leave it behind. It's nothing but a endless pit for trolls, sociopaths, terrorists and richard spencer now. It'll never have a second chance in this world. It shouldn't. If it did, you'd probably die by the hands of the people that follow it. Probably because you played a game with communists at some point in the past. I wouldn't put it past a fascist party leader to be petty like that.

So, take the ideals that drew you to it the most, and mold them into another philosophy. Re-brand it to "the Iron philosophy" or something. If you want your ideals to be seen and accepted by other people at all, that aren't alt-right memers already, then let them stand on their own merit. If your ideals are solid and convincing. They should be able to stand on their own.

Don't attach the dead weight label of "fascism" to your ideology. Get rid of the "fascist" tag, close the embassies with the other fascist regions because those regions do have people you guys avoid in them, and work on your public image a lot. You can go psychotic dictatorships and be ok. But fascists are just nazis now. You can't be a fascist and not be a nazi. So be totalitarians or corporate-ethicists or whatever you need to label yourselves as to not be nazis.

I'm confident in writing to say if you follow my words, you'll open many doors currently closed to your group.

~Reno.

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