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Tapatalk Update: Old Forums being Deleted/Archived

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:22 am
by New Rogernomics
Tapatalk is going through and deleting/archiving old forums to the point they can't be accessed, especially after they have been converted.

So if anyone wants to be sure we retain bits of NS history from their old regions (beyond what we get in the wayback machine), they might consider looking into the really old forums before Tapatalk switches them off.

Lazarus just lost it's old IF forum for good: http://z13.invisionfree.invalid.com/lazarus/index.php?

For some forums just converted you can find them like this:
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https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/forum name here/

Thought I would bring this to people's attention, as it is disheartening for NS history to be erased like this. :(

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:25 am
by Saint Block
Thank you, New Rogernomics.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:57 am
by Neo Domais
Shrugs what is the point of keeping old forums?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:01 am
by Frattastan IV
I think it was never converted in first place (so, offline since September rather than just now). The same happened to Old Blue and PRP's boards.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 am
by Saint Block
RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:12 am
by Malphe
Neo Domais wrote:Shrugs what is the point of keeping old forums?

NS history, like it said in the OP?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:20 am
by Aenglaland
Tapatalk never fails to disappoint eh

It's sad to see so many historical forums being deleted.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 am
by McStooley
Tapatalk, continuing to prove it's not a good site. Yikes.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:02 pm
by The Seeker of Power
It was able a terrible site to begin with McS. But yeah... Lots of NS history will be lost there...

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:18 pm
by 94 Rocks
Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:28 pm
by New Rogernomics
94 Rocks wrote:Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P
Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:17 pm
by Solorni
We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:26 pm
by Frattastan IV
Solorni wrote:We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.


There was a draft but the mods thought it would break 'Rule 4' or some nonsense like that. :(

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:55 pm
by Minoa
I do not think that Tapatalk deleted the forums yet, but it seems that they no longer run the software that powers the old-style forums. Maybe if a member asks them with the URLs of their forums in question, then maybe they will do something about it.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:48 pm
by The Church of Satan
The forum isn't deleted. It just has to be converted but I'm fairly certain that only the root admin can make that happen.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:14 pm
by Ghost Land
I've never liked Crapatalk to begin with. I was upset when Invision Free was taken over by Tapatalk rather recently, thus turning the simple, usable layout of sites like The 110 Club into complete junk that looks ugly and locks up frequently. This is just another reason to stick with either ProBoards or an independently hosted PHPBB forum.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:08 pm
by Tim-Opolis
Saint Block wrote:RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

You know a thing or two about destroying history, eh?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:24 pm
by 94 Socks
Tim-Opolis wrote:
Saint Block wrote:RIP the old forums. History will be lost.

You know a thing or two about destroying history, eh?


Nope. I don’t know nothing. :P

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:02 pm
by Aelita I
Yeah, I've lost a lot of forums around with Tapatalk wiping them out too. :( Fortunately, my most recent previous region as well as the one I'm currently working on had their forums on Jcink, which I also highly recommend.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:41 pm
by Salvarity
New Rogernomics wrote:
94 Rocks wrote:Does this mean that Tapatalk will be considered Forum destroyers? :P
Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.


Honestly, it just seems a lot of regions are opting to not have a forums.

In the top 50 (actual) regions, 13 of them do not have a forum (26%)
In the top 150 (actual) regions, that spikes dramatically to 78 (52%)

These regions all seem to have a Discord though, that platform has completely supplanted the forum it seems.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:15 pm
by West Calypso
Solorni wrote:We should create a region called Tapatalk and condemn it.

And it shall be done. :p

Posted under Minoa’s evil stress-reducing sandbox thing for relevance.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:50 pm
by 94 Clocks
Salvarity wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:Well as a bit dishonest to say the least.

Pretty much Proboards is the last remaining major free provider of off-site NS forums (from back when IF/ZB wasn't taken over by Tapatalk).

A lot seem to have migrated to Proboards or PhpBB now.


Honestly, it just seems a lot of regions are opting to not have a forums.

In the top 50 (actual) regions, 13 of them do not have a forum (26%)
In the top 150 (actual) regions, that spikes dramatically to 78 (52%)

These regions all seem to have a Discord though, that platform has completely supplanted the forum it seems.


Discord can certainly handle most of our needs, but it’s Knot a true replacement.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:40 pm
by Minoa
I strongly encourage self-hosting the forums these days. phpBB is open source, web hosting is not too expensive, and there is the backup option in phpBB, which I found out while playing around a little while back.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:47 pm
by 94 Clocks
I could certainly flex my forum muscles. It’s been a while. I’ve been begrudging it since the fall of Zetaboards.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:14 pm
by United Provinces of Atlantica
The Church of Satan wrote:The forum isn't deleted. It just has to be converted but I'm fairly certain that only the root admin can make that happen.

Not true - when browsing NS history and/or being a NationStates Miniver Cheevy, I emailed the support staff to restore the Central Defense Army's old forums, which were promptly restored even they I've never even been on NationStates in 2005 nor had an account on the CDA's forums, much less serve as any sort of admin or the root.