Jakker wrote:It's fun to watch NPO admit their mistakes.
Better than TBH, this will all be classed as 'training' if they don't do anything worthwhile
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by Drop Your Pants » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:10 am
Jakker wrote:It's fun to watch NPO admit their mistakes.
by Lord Dominator » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:24 am
by Drop Your Pants » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:47 am
Lord Dominator wrote:Dude, I know you're old, but confusing us with the LKE about something that happened a month ago is a bit much
by Lord Dominator » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:50 am
by Aenglaland » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:51 am
by Raionitu » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:43 pm
Aenglaland wrote:Well that was a short war. Funny how I remember reading somewhere "this war will drag on for a long time" and thinking "yeah, nah", but I never expected to be right.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by Drop Your Pants » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:39 pm
Raionitu wrote:I mean, this is the NPO withdrawing their one declaration. You have to remember that plenty of regions made declarations of their own.
by The Church of Satan » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:56 pm
by Aenglaland » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 pm
Raionitu wrote:I mean, this is the NPO withdrawing their one declaration. You have to remember that plenty of regions made declarations of their own.
Drop Your Pants wrote:And some of them were pretty funny too.
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:45 pm
Pierconium wrote:Signed on behalf of the Emperor of the New Pacific Order by:
Ivan Moldavi
Ruler of Pierconium
Consul of the Pacific
by Yokiria » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:36 pm
by Sargon Reman » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:44 pm
by Pierconium » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:48 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Pierconium wrote:Signed on behalf of the Emperor of the New Pacific Order by:
Ivan Moldavi
Ruler of Pierconium
Consul of the Pacific
I've been told that this declaration is just the statement of a rogue member of the NPO government. Is that correct or has this been approved by the Delegate et al? Just curious. I see no reason to continue engaging with the material of the statement if it is not an actual NPO government statement.
I'm certainly disappointed AND confused at this point. So, is this official NPO? I'd like to know...
We will wait for an official statement from the Emperor himself for confirmation or denial of this declaration.
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:54 pm
Pierconium wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:I've been told that this declaration is just the statement of a rogue member of the NPO government. Is that correct or has this been approved by the Delegate et al? Just curious. I see no reason to continue engaging with the material of the statement if it is not an actual NPO government statement.
I'm certainly disappointed AND confused at this point. So, is this official NPO? I'd like to know...
We will wait for an official statement from the Emperor himself for confirmation or denial of this declaration.
Your attempt at a false equivalency fails from the first item you quoted. I actually signed the document in question, which was a main issue with the other post you are attempting to compare this with. Normal conventions of diplomatic correspondence were adhered to and clearly stated from the outset. Is there a certain part of the statement that you could not comprehend?
by Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:02 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Pierconium wrote:Your attempt at a false equivalency fails from the first item you quoted. I actually signed the document in question, which was a main issue with the other post you are attempting to compare this with. Normal conventions of diplomatic correspondence were adhered to and clearly stated from the outset. Is there a certain part of the statement that you could not comprehend?
Yes, you signed it, and said you signed it on behalf of the Emperor. The Emperor didn't sign it. For all we know, he didn't approve it. The idea that your only problem with Osiris' declaration of war was that the Chairman of the Council of Guardians didn't sign it is just a case of you moving the goalposts to try to save face. It was clear you were questioning whether he spoke for the Pharaoh, and that would have been the case had he signed it or not. Similarly, I'm questioning whether you speak for the Emperor, because the Emperor didn't sign this.
Where is the new Emperor these days anyway? He's been pretty quiet.
by Pierconium » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:19 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Pierconium wrote:Your attempt at a false equivalency fails from the first item you quoted. I actually signed the document in question, which was a main issue with the other post you are attempting to compare this with. Normal conventions of diplomatic correspondence were adhered to and clearly stated from the outset. Is there a certain part of the statement that you could not comprehend?
Yes, you signed it, and said you signed it on behalf of the Emperor. The Emperor didn't sign it. For all we know, he didn't approve it. The idea that your only problem with Osiris' declaration of war was that the Chairman of the Council of Guardians didn't sign it is just a case of you moving the goalposts to try to save face. It was clear you were questioning whether he spoke for the Pharaoh, and that would have been the case had he signed it or not. Similarly, I'm questioning whether you speak for the Emperor. Anyone, even a former Emperor who's past his prime, can say they signed it on his behalf.
Where is the new Emperor these days anyway? He's been pretty quiet.
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:51 pm
Pierconium wrote:But sure, keep trying to claim I don’t have the authority to speak for the NPO. That only shows your complete lack of a grasp on reality or wilful ignorance. Keep tilting...
by Pierconium » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:55 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Pierconium wrote:But sure, keep trying to claim I don’t have the authority to speak for the NPO. That only shows your complete lack of a grasp on reality or wilful ignorance. Keep tilting...
I'm sure you do have authority to speak for the NPO, just as Mghnb had authority to speak for Osiris. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy.
In any event, re: the NPO's surrender -- I guess The Black Hawks were too much for the mighty NPO. As Feux was fond of saying: "Sad and weak."
by Kurnugia » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:05 am
Pierconium wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'm sure you do have authority to speak for the NPO, just as Mghnb had authority to speak for Osiris. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy.
In any event, re: the NPO's surrender -- I guess The Black Hawks were too much for the mighty NPO. As Feux was fond of saying: "Sad and weak."
Elmer, we both know who wins the hypocrisy game here, give it a rest. I asked for clarification because of (incorrect) information that I had been given and a clear answer was not forthcoming. It is not the same thing at all. You harping on it and saying it is so doesn’t change anything. You moaning about a lack of NSGP posting by the Emperor doesn’t mean he is inactive, it just means he has other things he is doing and I am here as his representative, which is how our government works. We do not answer to you and are not obligated to do things as you wish them done.
The realpolitik of the DoW was admittedly problematic and that is one of the reasons for the withdrawal.
by Yokiria » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:09 am
Pierconium wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'm sure you do have authority to speak for the NPO, just as Mghnb had authority to speak for Osiris. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy.
In any event, re: the NPO's surrender -- I guess The Black Hawks were too much for the mighty NPO. As Feux was fond of saying: "Sad and weak."
Elmer, we both know who wins the hypocrisy game here, give it a rest. I asked for clarification because of (incorrect) information that I had been given and a clear answer was not forthcoming. It is not the same thing at all. You harping on it and saying it is so doesn’t change anything. You moaning about a lack of NSGP posting by the Emperor doesn’t mean he is inactive, it just means he has other things he is doing and I am here as his representative, which is how our government works. We do not answer to you and are not obligated to do things as you wish them done.
The realpolitik of the DoW was admittedly problematic and that is one of the reasons for the withdrawal.
by Arkadia Universalis » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:21 am
Pierconium wrote:
If anyone in this community actually thinks that I would make a signed statement on behalf of the Emperor of the NPO under false pretences they obviously know very little about the history of the Pacific.
by Pierconium » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:20 am
Arkadia Universalis wrote:Pierconium wrote:
If anyone in this community actually thinks that I would make a signed statement on behalf of the Emperor of the NPO under false pretences they obviously know very little about the history of the Pacific.
With all due respect - did you or did you not do *exactly* that to the CyberNations New Pacific Order? I suppose your statement still stands, since this was a different community and technically doesn’t concern the history of the NationStates region known as the Pacific. However, to say that this particular action is below you would be incorrect, wouldn’t it?
by Pierconium » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:39 am
Yokiria wrote:Pierconium wrote:Elmer, we both know who wins the hypocrisy game here, give it a rest. I asked for clarification because of (incorrect) information that I had been given and a clear answer was not forthcoming. It is not the same thing at all. You harping on it and saying it is so doesn’t change anything. You moaning about a lack of NSGP posting by the Emperor doesn’t mean he is inactive, it just means he has other things he is doing and I am here as his representative, which is how our government works. We do not answer to you and are not obligated to do things as you wish them done.
The realpolitik of the DoW was admittedly problematic and that is one of the reasons for the withdrawal.
Cormac harping on it and saying it is the same thing doesn't make it the same thing. The reality of it being the same thing, however, means Cormac only needs to point it out. You say "moaning" about a lack of NSGP posting by the leader of your government is invalid because the leader of your government is otherwise preoccupied, and you are here as his representative, which is how the NPO government works.
That exactly mirrors how your "moaning" about a lack of NSGP posting by the leader of Osiris' government was invalid, because the leader of our government was otherwise preoccupied, and Mghnb was there as her representative, which is how Osiris' government works.
Who wins the hypocrisy game here again, Buzz?
by Consular » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:57 am
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