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Postby The NAtion OF Froggy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:34 am

I see my joke of coup laz was timely...

And to think I knew nothing of the political climate when I made it.

I don't think rehashing the age old Francoism debate has changed. Francoism is a joke it needs to be done away with.

Also these articles are great I love the content.

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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:38 am

I appreciate the efforts of the NPO, specifically Ivan, to distance themselves from unfavorable userite influences.

Cormactopia Prime wrote:If he was relieved of duty prior to mentioning NPO support, why did he mention it?

Evidently, Ark is fired from their FA team now, which is what I would call a fair move on Aleisyr's part when taking in consideration the former circumstances and situations that Ark has caused due to him constantly speaking on behalf of the NPO when he shouldn't be.
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Postby Solorni » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:42 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Francoism is the guiding force behind Feederite (and Sinkerite) revolution. It cannot be owned by one Feeder, but rather it is the property of all true Feederites. The NPO is a Degenerated Feederite State that has betrayed the Feederite revolution, and Francoism should now be reclaimed by true Feederites in other Feeders and Sinkers. That reclaiming can and should begin in Lazarus now to purge the userite subversives trying to maintain so-called "defender" control over a Sinker that does not properly belong to them, but rather belongs to the true Sinkerites of Lazarus.

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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:48 am

Solorni wrote:Time for a New Balder Order??

We've been waiting!
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:04 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Francoism is the guiding force behind Feederite (and Sinkerite) revolution. It cannot be owned by one Feeder, but rather it is the property of all true Feederites. The NPO is a Degenerated Feederite State that has betrayed the Feederite revolution, and Francoism should now be reclaimed by true Feederites in other Feeders and Sinkers. That reclaiming can and should begin in Lazarus now to purge the userite subversives trying to maintain so-called "defender" control over a Sinker that does not properly belong to them, but rather belongs to the true Sinkerites of Lazarus.


Lol, what fucking bullshit. Who is the degenerate feederite running NPO? Aleisyr? Yeah, I hadn't even hit puberty by the time Aleisyr was being personally invited to join the PG by Francos. This line of criticism might have been appropriate in the Moo days, but Aleisyr? C'mon.

Ironically, despite your declaration above, this propaganda doesn't belong to you. Nor is it particularly convincing given the low level of commitment to the region that these, err, ' true sinkerites of Lazarus' (read: mostly invaders from other UCRs) have demonstrated thus far in their attempted electioneering.
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:51 am

With news of Pergamon's demotion and unconfirmed reports that Ark got booted from the NPO's Foreign Affairs team, I think now it's safe to say that involvement in Lazarus is the #1 detriment to Pacificans' careers in the Senate.
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Postby Vuori Kunin-Grrs » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:56 am

Ridersyl wrote:With news of Pergamon's demotion and unconfirmed reports that Ark got booted from the NPO's Foreign Affairs team, I think now it's safe to say that involvement in Lazarus is the #1 detriment to Pacificans' careers in the Senate.

The Lazarene Protectorate of the Pacific sounds nice. :twisted:

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Postby The Lazarene Guardian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:05 pm

With the deletion of Eara Vorti and Evonionet, we unequivocally retract any claims of importation regarding those two nations in particular, however we maintain our stance regarding the Septimanian Marches.
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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:31 pm

Unibot III wrote:Lol, what fucking bullshit. Who is the degenerate feederite running NPO? Aleisyr?


At least give someone some time to answer your questions before you answer them yourself. I will answer it, though I am also obliged to say that Aleisyr and Ivan have finally woke up to take matters into their own hands and try to reverse what damage Pergamon, Ark, etc have done to the foundation of the NPO.

Those that believe they have their hands on the levers of Pacifican power to use at their disposal, and to the disposal in cooperation with the userite menace, are the same people that have caused the NPO to deteriorate into such a state of retrogression and turned into a state that the userites may use to their advantage. In order for the August Revolution to remain true, it would require the NPO to move from the feudal, bureaucratic state that it has developed into.

In pursuit of imperialism and expanding the Pacifican Empire, the NPO voluntarily abandoned their structure of Francoism thus resulting in a failed revolution -- as any feederite revolution must remain permanent to abide as a true victory for the feederites. In order to do so, they must assume genuine Francoism again just as they did in the August Revolution.
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Postby Altmoras » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:05 pm

The Sygian wrote:
Unibot III wrote:Lol, what fucking bullshit. Who is the degenerate feederite running NPO? Aleisyr?


At least give someone some time to answer your questions before you answer them yourself. I will answer it, though I am also obliged to say that Aleisyr and Ivan have finally woke up to take matters into their own hands and try to reverse what damage Pergamon, Ark, etc have done to the foundation of the NPO.

Those that believe they have their hands on the levers of Pacifican power to use at their disposal, and to the disposal in cooperation with the userite menace, are the same people that have caused the NPO to deteriorate into such a state of retrogression and turned into a state that the userites may use to their advantage. In order for the August Revolution to remain true, it would require the NPO to move from the feudal, bureaucratic state that it has developed into.

In pursuit of imperialism and expanding the Pacifican Empire, the NPO voluntarily abandoned their structure of Francoism thus resulting in a failed revolution -- as any feederite revolution must remain permanent to abide as a true victory for the feederites. In order to do so, they must assume genuine Francoism again just as they did in the August Revolution.


Looks like somebody read an essay recently.
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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:06 pm

Altmoras wrote:
The Sygian wrote:
At least give someone some time to answer your questions before you answer them yourself. I will answer it, though I am also obliged to say that Aleisyr and Ivan have finally woke up to take matters into their own hands and try to reverse what damage Pergamon, Ark, etc have done to the foundation of the NPO.

Those that believe they have their hands on the levers of Pacifican power to use at their disposal, and to the disposal in cooperation with the userite menace, are the same people that have caused the NPO to deteriorate into such a state of retrogression and turned into a state that the userites may use to their advantage. In order for the August Revolution to remain true, it would require the NPO to move from the feudal, bureaucratic state that it has developed into.

In pursuit of imperialism and expanding the Pacifican Empire, the NPO voluntarily abandoned their structure of Francoism thus resulting in a failed revolution -- as any feederite revolution must remain permanent to abide as a true victory for the feederites. In order to do so, they must assume genuine Francoism again just as they did in the August Revolution.


Looks like somebody read an essay recently.

No I am legitimately pulling this out of my ass because it's fun.

Go Francoism go!
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:18 pm

The Sygian wrote:No I am legitimately pulling this out of my ass because it's fun.


Um....
Phrasing.
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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:48 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
The Sygian wrote:No I am legitimately pulling this out of my ass because it's fun.


Um....
Phrasing.

Well, there's no going back anymore :P
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:58 pm

Y'know, whatever side you're taking in this, there's something we should all be really let down by. Not a single government has made a public comment on probably the biggest scandal in Gameplay all year. What happened to our FA ministries? Lazarus has treaties with TSP, TRR, Spiritus, and Osiris. Not a single peep, and it's been a week since the accusations were made?

I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.

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Postby Adytus » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:01 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Y'know, whatever side you're taking in this, there's something we should all be really let down by. Not a single government has made a public comment on probably the biggest scandal in Gameplay all year. What happened to our FA ministries? Lazarus has treaties with TSP, TRR, Spiritus, and Osiris. Not a single peep, and it's been a week since the accusations were made?

I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.

Osiris does not have a treaty with Lazarus.
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Postby Catalyse » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:02 pm

Everyone's just biding their time. :^)
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:02 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Y'know, whatever side you're taking in this, there's something we should all be really let down by. Not a single government has made a public comment on probably the biggest scandal in Gameplay all year. What happened to our FA ministries? Lazarus has treaties with TSP, TRR, Spiritus, and Osiris. Not a single peep, and it's been a week since the accusations were made?

I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.


Maybe it's not every FA ministry that has the wrong mindset about this, but rather, you?
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Postby The Sygian » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:05 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Lazarus has treaties with TSP, TRR, Spiritus, and Osiris.

Correction - Osiris does not have a treaty with Lazarus, unless you count CAIN which in that case... just no. Doesn't count. At all. :P

Glen-Rhodes wrote:I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.

Hey look, we agree on something. I think the last FA update that I saw in response to an incident (coincidentally involving Lazarus) was by TSP, responding to The Black Hawks supposedly shooting Loftegen into the Lazarene delegacy.

Foreign Affairs is just about posting generic updates in offsite embassies, which is boring af.
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Postby Altheriol » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:08 pm

The Sygian wrote:Foreign Affairs is just about posting generic updates in offsite embassies, which is boring af.

Can confirm - after about a month and a half the novelty seriously wears off, and I'm getting into my third. And as Ambassador of Arda en Estel to Lazarus as well as being Foreign Consul I ought to express an opinion; but I've no dog in this fight beyond a general view that the rule of law must continue to prevail.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:09 pm

Adytus wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Y'know, whatever side you're taking in this, there's something we should all be really let down by. Not a single government has made a public comment on probably the biggest scandal in Gameplay all year. What happened to our FA ministries? Lazarus has treaties with TSP, TRR, Spiritus, and Osiris. Not a single peep, and it's been a week since the accusations were made?

I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.

Osiris does not have a treaty with Lazarus.

Lazarus and Osiris are both CAIN signatories and have had, until relatively recently, a non-aggression pact. Either way you want to frame that, that your government hasn't bothered to say anything is an equal failure as everybody else who likes to say they're running an FA department.

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Glen-Rhodes wrote:I don't know what's happened to this game, but FA ministers don't seem to be up to snuff. Either that, or FA is dead and we should all mourn that.

Hey look, we agree on something. I think the last FA update that I saw in response to an incident (coincidentally involving Lazarus) was by TSP, responding to The Black Hawks supposedly shooting Loftegen into the Lazarene delegacy.

FA hasn't been about posting updates for around 4 or 5 years now. When major events happen, GCR governments have released official statements in the past. Since last year, that practice died out of nowhere. It's bad for the game, but good for those who operate best outside of the spotlight.
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Postby Adytus » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:10 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Adytus wrote:Osiris does not have a treaty with Lazarus.

Lazarus and Osiris are both CAIN signatories and have had, until relatively recently, a non-aggression pact. Either way you want to frame that, that your government hasn't bothered to say anything is an equal failure as everybody else who likes to say they're running an FA department.

Osiris is not a member of CAIN.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:11 pm

Adytus wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Lazarus and Osiris are both CAIN signatories and have had, until relatively recently, a non-aggression pact. Either way you want to frame that, that your government hasn't bothered to say anything is an equal failure as everybody else who likes to say they're running an FA department.

Osiris is not a member of CAIN.

Your dispatch says otherwise: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=731271

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Postby Metal Mekhet » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:11 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Adytus wrote:Osiris does not have a treaty with Lazarus.

Lazarus and Osiris are both CAIN signatories and have had, until relatively recently, a non-aggression pact. Either way you want to frame that, that your government hasn't bothered to say anything is an equal failure as everybody else who likes to say they're running an FA department.


Maybe they don't care? Where's the TNP, TWP, TEP, TRR, and Balder responses? Unless it's all off-site?
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Postby Adytus » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:12 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:
Adytus wrote:Osiris is not a member of CAIN.

Your dispatch says otherwise: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=731271

The dispatch is wrong then.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:13 pm

Adytus wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Your dispatch says otherwise: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=731271

The dispatch is wrong then.

Another example of the total failures of pretty much every FA department in the GCRs.

It's a real shame.

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