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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:37 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:If you could not compare a game to real life death and destruction that'd be swell

in Nationstates, attacking regions is the most destructive thing i could think of... unless you actually can kill people in NS.

Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
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Postby Kurnugia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:32 pm

I dunno if TRF finds this annoying or if they appreciate the free bumps they are getting out of this.

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:50 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:in Nationstates, attacking regions is the most destructive thing i could think of... unless you actually can kill people in NS.

Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
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Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.

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Postby Southern Bellz » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:28 pm

If Nazi bashing is wrong, I don't want to be right. Good job TRF

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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:12 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
I hope you won’t use those elite ninja assassin squads on me if I sig this?

Can't use what the boss won't buy us! :P
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:28 pm

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Caelapes wrote:The way we defend leaves the native RMB and founder intact. We kept the only verifiable native nation in USSR. If we wanted to be imperialists or if we were raiding it, we’d refound.

And you were close—we do raid purely on ideological grounds! Because it’s okay to be political on a political browser game.

True, but raids should have a reason aside from simply being an opposing ideology. There needs to be a justification. For instance, if the region attacked you first. Or if it raided an ally. Or if it has been attacking innocents (Which you have done before).

My raiding justification is 'fun'
I don't see a problem with TRF doing some raiding based on politics
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:52 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:True, but raids should have a reason aside from simply being an opposing ideology. There needs to be a justification. For instance, if the region attacked you first. Or if it raided an ally. Or if it has been attacking innocents (Which you have done before).

My raiding justification is 'fun'
I don't see a problem with TRF doing some raiding based on politics

Mine is pretty much “founderless? Stupid userites.”

TRF’s political justification is fine, a bonus if they hit Nazi regions.
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Postby Caelapes » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:09 am

TRF’s raiding justification is “fash? fun!”
     
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Postby West Leas Oros » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:16 pm

Southern Bellz wrote:If Nazi bashing is wrong, I don't want to be right. Good job TRF

Bashing people in general is wrong. Violence is just abhorrent.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:18 pm

West Leas Oros wrote:
Southern Bellz wrote:If Nazi bashing is wrong, I don't want to be right. Good job TRF

Bashing people in general is wrong. Violence is just abhorrent.

You must be new to Gameplay.
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Postby West Leas Oros » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:19 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:Bashing people in general is wrong. Violence is just abhorrent.

You must be new to Gameplay.

what do you mean?
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
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The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

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Postby Caelapes » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:07 pm

there is nothing “violent” about clicking buttons on an internet browser game.
     
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Postby Roavin » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:17 pm

Caelapes wrote:there is nothing “violent” about clicking buttons on an internet browser game.


Maybe not for you and me, but...

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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:09 pm

Caelapes wrote:there is nothing “violent” about clicking buttons on an internet browser game.

Well, except what Vinny does to us if we don't raid
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Postby West Leas Oros » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:42 am

Caelapes wrote:TRF’s raiding justification is “fash? fun!”

So you raid because you prefer your form of authoritarian dictatorship to theirs?
Just your friendly neighborhood democratic socialist revisionist traitor.
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Brothers and sisters are natural enemies, like fascists and communists. Or libertarians and communists. Or social democrats and communists. Or communists and other communists! Damn commies, they ruined communism!"

The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.

WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.

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Postby Caelapes » Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:54 pm

this isn’t NSG bucko
     
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Postby Blood Wine » Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:54 am

West Leas Oros wrote:
Caelapes wrote:TRF’s raiding justification is “fash? fun!”

So you raid because you prefer your form of authoritarian dictatorship to theirs?


Raiding nazis is a longstanding GP tradition
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:08 am

Blood Wine wrote:
West Leas Oros wrote:So you raid because you prefer your form of authoritarian dictatorship to theirs?


Raiding nazis is a longstanding GP tradition

Just behind bitching at each other for little to no reason :p
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Postby Kurnugia » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:27 am

Those free bumps though.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:13 pm

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As comrade Leslie Feinberg wrote all the way back in 1996:
In order to understand the lives of people who have passed as another sex in any direction, it must be remembered that trans people have always existed, but were once viewed with respect as vital, contributing members of our societies.

We have not always been forced to pass, to go underground, in order to work and live. We have a right to live openly and proudly. When we are denied those rights, we are the ones who suffer that oppression. But when our lives are suppressed, everyone is denied an understanding of the rich diversity of sex and gender expression and experience that exist in human society.

I have lived as a man because I could not survive openly as a transgendered person. Yes, I am oppressed in this society, but I am not merely a product of oppression. That is a phrase that renders all our trans identities meaningless. Passing means having to hide your identity in fear, in order to live. Being forced to pass is a recent historical development.

It is passing that is a product of oppression.

The behavior of the leadership of TRE, as revealed by The Black Hawks, is despicable.

We stand in solidarity with our LGBTQ comrades and our Black comrades against bigotry and hatred, and we will continue in our own communities to make sure that they are places where people of any race and all gender identities can feel safe and loved.

We are pushing for a full blacklist against The Roman Empire, Festavo, and Plagentine in our particular sphere of interest—anti-fascist action—and are inspired by the solidarity of organizations and regions doing the same in their own spheres of gameplay.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:17 pm

Good to hear :)
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Postby Aclion » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:37 pm

I'm glad to see that players at least are standing up against threats and harassment. Still it's a bit odd to hear this coming from TRF, and especially Misley, given their history.
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:38 pm

Aclion wrote:I'm glad to see that players at least are standing up against threats and harassment. Still it's a bit odd to hear this coming from TRF, and especially Misley, given their history.

What kind of implication are you making there?
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Postby Aclion » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:40 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Aclion wrote:I'm glad to see that players at least are standing up against threats and harassment. Still it's a bit odd to hear this coming from TRF, and especially Misley, given their history.

What kind of implication are you making there?

The kind that I'm not sure I can go into more detail about without suffering mod wraith.
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Postby Caelapes » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:45 pm

Aclion wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:What kind of implication are you making there?

The kind that I'm not sure I can go into more detail about without suffering mod wraith.

I lost my main nation after falsifying telegrams. And not even in a way that implied the fake telegrams would have been rule-breaking if they were real.

I don't see how this is remotely comparable, except to bring up my history in a salacious way to imply that I lost my main nation because of out-of-character behavior as utterly reprehensible as is the case here.
     
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