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by Cormactopia II » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:17 am
by Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:31 am
by Cormactopia II » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:38 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Glad to see Osiris changing course due to the criticism of its detractors
by Cormactopia II » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:03 pm
by Sygian II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:20 am
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:37 am
by Zaolat » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:57 am
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Well, that is a surprise given that Cormac has been a vocal supporter of The Wardens.
by Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:33 pm
Zaolat wrote:Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Well, that is a surprise given that Cormac has been a vocal supporter of The Wardens.
Well TGW decided to shit on Osiris. Iran predates the current government and OFO. So, it has historical meaning to Osiris the region. This is an apt response.Additionally, I used to approve and support TGW as an organization. Now they're my enemy.
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:56 pm
by Sygian II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:07 pm
Ikania wrote:Cormac's Osiris is declaring war on another region because of a completely trivial and insignificant offense?
It's like 2014 all over again.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:12 pm
by Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:44 pm
Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:48 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:The actions outlined in the Pharaoh's statement constitute an appropriate and well-designed response to unjustified aggression. It is unfortunate that the Order of the Grey Wardens have chosen to disrespect the sovereignty of Osiris, although one cannot claim to be surprised given their general threat to attack regions which raid. All regions which decline to subscribe to defender ideology about military operations have reason to consider steps to mitigate the threat to their security posed by the Grey Wardens. In seizing a colony of Osiris, the Order of the Grey Wardens are inviting retaliation upon themselves.Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?
By taking the measures outlined in its statement, Osiris is defending itself. It will have the full and steadfast support of its allies in doing so.
In the long run, the Grey Wardens stands to lose a lot more from their extremely foolish decision to re-found Islamic Republics of Iran.
by Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:04 pm
Ikania wrote:Onderkelkia wrote:The actions outlined in the Pharaoh's statement constitute an appropriate and well-designed response to unjustified aggression. It is unfortunate that the Order of the Grey Wardens have chosen to disrespect the sovereignty of Osiris, although one cannot claim to be surprised given their general threat to attack regions which raid. All regions which decline to subscribe to defender ideology about military operations have reason to consider steps to mitigate the threat to their security posed by the Grey Wardens. In seizing a colony of Osiris, the Order of the Grey Wardens are inviting retaliation upon themselves.
By taking the measures outlined in its statement, Osiris is defending itself. It will have the full and steadfast support of its allies in doing so.
In the long run, the Grey Wardens stands to lose a lot more from their extremely foolish decision to re-found Islamic Republics of Iran.
There's something to lose by making an enemy of Cormac?
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:07 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:Ikania wrote:There's something to lose by making an enemy of Cormac?
Notwithstanding Cormac's considerable abilities as a player (whatever your view of him), this is about a lot more than him as an individual. He made the above statement on behalf of the region of Osiris and you can rest assured that the allies of Osiris will stand by its government in upholding its sovereignty.
by Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:18 pm
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:34 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:The actions announced by Osiris are hardly an "overreaction" when it is dealing with with a flagrant and deliberate infringement of its sovereignty - seizing an Osirian colony as a trophy region. The Grey Wardens chose to make an enemy of Osiris. The response from Osiris is entirely rational and proportionate.
by Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:07 pm
by Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:01 pm
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Not so much making an enemy of Cormac.
More about the disrespect shown to the figure who was immortalised in that regional factbook as a sign of respect for one of the first successful operations after the KRO fell: Empress Detective Figs I of Osiris, someone who served as High Chamberlain to The Grey Wardens in their first incarnation... Some of you will already have guessed who I'm speaking about, but for those of you who didn't, I'm speaking of Astarial.
I couldn't care less about Osiris losing a colony, I do however note with a wince that The Grey Wardens chose to target that particular region, which was immortalised in respect to someone who served with them.
by Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:11 pm
Ikania wrote:Onderkelkia wrote:The actions announced by Osiris are hardly an "overreaction" when it is dealing with with a flagrant and deliberate infringement of its sovereignty - seizing an Osirian colony as a trophy region. The Grey Wardens chose to make an enemy of Osiris. The response from Osiris is entirely rational and proportionate.
Flagrant, deliberate and entirely inconsequential.
by Cormactopia II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:05 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:Ikania wrote:Flagrant, deliberate and entirely inconsequential.
Calling the invasion of a colony "inconsequential" betrays a complete misunderstanding of how international relations work. Powerful states typically fiercely uphold the sovereignty of their territory quite regardless of whether retaining the land itself is of great practical benefit. To do otherwise constitutes political capitulation. Infringing another state's territory is grounds for the most serious response. In choosing to take Islamic Republics of Iran, the Grey Wardens have provoked Osiris; if there is pettiness, it is on their part. Osiris is well within its rights to respond with the steps that they have.
by Biyah » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:51 pm
by Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:04 am
Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?
Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.
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