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Postby Cormactopia II » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:17 am

We'll be releasing a comprehensive foreign update fairly soon, but I just wanted to take a minute to informally note that we've just concluded our election for Chief Vizier, and Biyah has been elected by our all-citizen legislature, the Council of Scribes, to serve as Chief Vizier. He has, in turn, appointed the following Council of Viziers (Cabinet):

Marshal General: Fedele (Scardino)
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Vizier of Community Affairs: Gradea III
-- Sub-Vizier of Citizenship: Yokiria (Ridersyl)
Vizier of Foreign Affairs: Myrkavhal (Syberis)
-- Sub-Vizier of WA Affairs: Angtegs (Adytus)

Contrary to predictions made by some of our detractors that we would continue shuffling leadership positions between the same few people, the majority of this Council of Viziers are relative newcomers who have just recently begun their time in Osiris. We're very proud that they have stepped up to help lead Osiris over the next few months, and we're sure we'll be seeing great things from them.

Anyone interested in the direction of our government over the course of this term can check out an address on that subject, posted on our regional forum.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:31 am

Glad to see Osiris changing course due to the criticism of its detractors :)

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Postby Cormactopia II » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:38 am

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Glad to see Osiris changing course due to the criticism of its detractors :)

We had already begun promoting relative newcomers Fedele and Syberis before your criticism, Glen. I can't think of a single time Osiris has ever changed course due to your criticism. ;)

I am sorry though that we broke your, what was it, four year streak of never being wrong?
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:44 pm

Cormactopia II wrote:
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Glad to see Osiris changing course due to the criticism of its detractors :)

We had already begun promoting relative newcomers Fedele and Syberis before your criticism, Glen.


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Postby Cormactopia II » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:03 pm

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Fifth Royal Proclamation from the Pharaoh of Osiris
On Acts of Aggression and Subversion by the Order of the Grey Wardens





It is hereby proclaimed by His Royal Majesty Cormac of House Sethos, Pharaoh of Osiris and First Lord of the Nile:

At major update this morning, the Order of the Grey Wardens re-founded Islamic Republics of Iran, a territory that Osiris has maintained since 2013. While Islamic Republics of Iran has no remaining strategic value and there have never been plans for future development of the territory, it has been maintained in commemoration of a successful multi-regional operation lead by the Sekhmet Legion of Osiris in its earliest days, and as a tribute to Pharaoh Detective Figs I, commonly known as Astarial, who founded the Sekhmet Legion. Regardless of its strategic value, Islamic Republics of Iran is the sovereign territory of the Osiris Fraternal Order, and its seizure by the Grey Wardens constitutes a serious act of aggression against the Osiris Fraternal Order. Combined with the belligerence of the Grey Wardens toward all raider regions and their often stated and demonstrated desire to invade any raider region, the seizure of Islamic Republics of Iran leads the Osiris Fraternal Order to the conclusion that the Grey Wardens must be regarded as a combatant organization hostile to the sovereignty and regional interests of Osiris.

Therefore, pursuant to the powers granted to the office of the Pharaoh of Osiris by the Scroll of Ma'at and by the Legal Code of the Osiris Fraternal Order, the Pharaoh hereby proclaims the following directives:

Section 1: External Response

(1) Diplomats assigned to represent the Osiris Fraternal Order to the Order of the Grey Wardens are recalled, and the embassy maintained by the Osiris Fraternal Order on the regional forum of the Order of the Grey Wardens will be considered defunct.
(2) The consulate maintained by the Order of the Grey Wardens on the regional forum of the Osiris Fraternal Order is ordered closed.
(3) No future application for diplomatic visa or embassies, in-game or off-site, filed on behalf of the Order of the Grey Wardens or any region that is host to an official outpost of the Order of the Grey Wardens, will be approved. The Osiris Fraternal Order will not apply for diplomatic visa or embassies with the Order of the Grey Wardens or any regions that host its official outposts.
(4) The Royal Armed Forces are prohibited from engaging in military operations in which members of the Order of the Grey Wardens, acting on behalf of the Order of the Grey Wardens, are included, unless there exists a legal requirement to participate in such operations.
(5) The Royal Armed Forces are directed to engage in operations to reclaim Islamic Republics of Iran, which remains the sovereign territory of the Osiris Fraternal Order illegally seized by the Order of the Grey Wardens, should such an opportunity present itself in the future.

Section 2: Domestic Response

(1) No future applicant to citizenship who includes residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens on their application for citizenship will be admitted to citizenship. Failure to disclose residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens will be prosecuted to the maximum extent permitted by law.
(2) No future applicant to the Royal Armed Forces who maintains residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens will be admitted to the Royal Armed Forces.
(3) No future applicant to the Civil Service who maintains residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens will be permitted to represent the Osiris Fraternal Order in any external capacity, including but not limited to service as an ambassador or representation of the Osiris Fraternal Order to the World Assembly.
(4) Current citizens of Osiris who maintain residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens will be barred from future appointment to the office of Heir Apparent, to the Council of Viziers, to the positions of Sub-Vizier or Deputy Vizier, to the Council of Guardians, or to the Council of Priests.
(5) No resident of Osiris who maintains residency or membership in the Order of the Grey Wardens will be permitted to accumulate World Assembly endorsements in Osiris or to serve as an in-game Regional Officer.

So let it be written. So let it be done.
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Postby Sygian II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:20 am

I was wondering when this was going to happen :blink:

Now it has!
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:37 am

Well, that is a surprise given that Cormac has been a vocal supporter of The Wardens.
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Postby Zaolat » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:57 am

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Well, that is a surprise given that Cormac has been a vocal supporter of The Wardens.


Well TGW decided to shit on Osiris. Iran predates the current government and OFO. So, it has historical meaning to Osiris the region. This is an apt response.Additionally, I used to approve and support TGW as an organization. Now they're my enemy.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:33 pm

Zaolat wrote:
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Well, that is a surprise given that Cormac has been a vocal supporter of The Wardens.


Well TGW decided to shit on Osiris. Iran predates the current government and OFO. So, it has historical meaning to Osiris the region. This is an apt response.Additionally, I used to approve and support TGW as an organization. Now they're my enemy.


I am aware of the the age of Iran, as well as its historical meaning, Zaolat. You may forget that I was involved in Osiris' government during that period.
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:56 pm

Cormac's Osiris is declaring war on another region because of a completely trivial and insignificant offense?

It's like 2014 all over again.
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Postby Sygian II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:07 pm

Ikania wrote:Cormac's Osiris is declaring war on another region because of a completely trivial and insignificant offense?

It's like 2014 all over again.

Strange, this is coming from a former "defender" that "opposes" the Grey Wardens. :p
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:12 pm

Sygian II wrote:
Ikania wrote:Cormac's Osiris is declaring war on another region because of a completely trivial and insignificant offense?

It's like 2014 all over again.

Strange, this is coming from a former "defender" that "opposes" the Grey Wardens. :p

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Postby Funkadelia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:36 pm

Why didn't the natives protect themselves?
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Postby Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:44 pm

The actions outlined in the Pharaoh's statement constitute an appropriate and well-designed response to unjustified aggression. It is unfortunate that the Order of the Grey Wardens have chosen to disrespect the sovereignty of Osiris, although one cannot claim to be surprised given their general threat to attack regions which raid. All regions which decline to subscribe to defender ideology about military operations have reason to consider steps to mitigate the threat to their security posed by the Grey Wardens. In seizing a colony of Osiris, the Order of the Grey Wardens are inviting retaliation upon themselves.

Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?

By taking the measures outlined in its statement, Osiris is defending itself. It will have the full and steadfast support of its allies in doing so.

In the long run, the Grey Wardens stands to lose a lot more from their extremely foolish decision to re-found Islamic Republics of Iran.
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:48 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:The actions outlined in the Pharaoh's statement constitute an appropriate and well-designed response to unjustified aggression. It is unfortunate that the Order of the Grey Wardens have chosen to disrespect the sovereignty of Osiris, although one cannot claim to be surprised given their general threat to attack regions which raid. All regions which decline to subscribe to defender ideology about military operations have reason to consider steps to mitigate the threat to their security posed by the Grey Wardens. In seizing a colony of Osiris, the Order of the Grey Wardens are inviting retaliation upon themselves.

Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?

By taking the measures outlined in its statement, Osiris is defending itself. It will have the full and steadfast support of its allies in doing so.

In the long run, the Grey Wardens stands to lose a lot more from their extremely foolish decision to re-found Islamic Republics of Iran.

There's something to lose by making an enemy of Cormac?
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Postby Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:04 pm

Ikania wrote:
Onderkelkia wrote:The actions outlined in the Pharaoh's statement constitute an appropriate and well-designed response to unjustified aggression. It is unfortunate that the Order of the Grey Wardens have chosen to disrespect the sovereignty of Osiris, although one cannot claim to be surprised given their general threat to attack regions which raid. All regions which decline to subscribe to defender ideology about military operations have reason to consider steps to mitigate the threat to their security posed by the Grey Wardens. In seizing a colony of Osiris, the Order of the Grey Wardens are inviting retaliation upon themselves.


By taking the measures outlined in its statement, Osiris is defending itself. It will have the full and steadfast support of its allies in doing so.

In the long run, the Grey Wardens stands to lose a lot more from their extremely foolish decision to re-found Islamic Republics of Iran.

There's something to lose by making an enemy of Cormac?

Notwithstanding Cormac's considerable abilities as a player (whatever your view of him), this is about a lot more than him as an individual. He made the above statement on behalf of the region of Osiris and you can rest assured that the allies of Osiris will stand by its government in upholding its sovereignty.
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:07 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:
Ikania wrote:There's something to lose by making an enemy of Cormac?

Notwithstanding Cormac's considerable abilities as a player (whatever your view of him), this is about a lot more than him as an individual. He made the above statement on behalf of the region of Osiris and you can rest assured that the allies of Osiris will stand by its government in upholding its sovereignty.

Well, if El Salvador can invade Honduras over a soccer game, I wouldn't rule out an overreaction about nothing by a dictator known for this kind of stuff as a justification for war.
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The actions announced by Osiris are hardly an "overreaction" when it is dealing with with a flagrant and deliberate infringement of its sovereignty - seizing an Osirian colony as a trophy region. The Grey Wardens chose to make an enemy of Osiris. The response from Osiris is entirely rational and proportionate.
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:The actions announced by Osiris are hardly an "overreaction" when it is dealing with with a flagrant and deliberate infringement of its sovereignty - seizing an Osirian colony as a trophy region. The Grey Wardens chose to make an enemy of Osiris. The response from Osiris is entirely rational and proportionate.

Flagrant, deliberate and entirely inconsequential.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:07 pm

Not so much making an enemy of Cormac.

More about the disrespect shown to the figure who was immortalised in that regional factbook as a sign of respect for one of the first successful operations after the KRO fell: Empress Detective Figs I of Osiris, someone who served as High Chamberlain to The Grey Wardens in their first incarnation... Some of you will already have guessed who I'm speaking about, but for those of you who didn't, I'm speaking of Astarial.

I couldn't care less about Osiris losing a colony, I do however note with a wince that The Grey Wardens chose to target that particular region, which was immortalised in respect to someone who served with them.
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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:01 pm

Lord Ravenclaw wrote:Not so much making an enemy of Cormac.

More about the disrespect shown to the figure who was immortalised in that regional factbook as a sign of respect for one of the first successful operations after the KRO fell: Empress Detective Figs I of Osiris, someone who served as High Chamberlain to The Grey Wardens in their first incarnation... Some of you will already have guessed who I'm speaking about, but for those of you who didn't, I'm speaking of Astarial.

I couldn't care less about Osiris losing a colony, I do however note with a wince that The Grey Wardens chose to target that particular region, which was immortalised in respect to someone who served with them.

With that note I can certainly understand the furor a good deal more. But it's really an overreaction. This is essentially a diplomatic insult, so what? It's just more pettiness from his camp, since severing relations isn't enough.
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Postby Onderkelkia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:11 pm

Ikania wrote:
Onderkelkia wrote:The actions announced by Osiris are hardly an "overreaction" when it is dealing with with a flagrant and deliberate infringement of its sovereignty - seizing an Osirian colony as a trophy region. The Grey Wardens chose to make an enemy of Osiris. The response from Osiris is entirely rational and proportionate.

Flagrant, deliberate and entirely inconsequential.

Calling the invasion of a colony "inconsequential" betrays a complete misunderstanding of how international relations work. Powerful states typically fiercely uphold the sovereignty of their territory quite regardless of whether retaining the land itself is of great practical benefit. To do otherwise constitutes political capitulation. Infringing another state's territory is grounds for the most serious response. In choosing to take Islamic Republics of Iran, the Grey Wardens have provoked Osiris; if there is pettiness, it is on their part. Osiris is well within its rights to respond with the steps that they have.
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Postby Cormactopia II » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:05 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:
Ikania wrote:Flagrant, deliberate and entirely inconsequential.

Calling the invasion of a colony "inconsequential" betrays a complete misunderstanding of how international relations work. Powerful states typically fiercely uphold the sovereignty of their territory quite regardless of whether retaining the land itself is of great practical benefit. To do otherwise constitutes political capitulation. Infringing another state's territory is grounds for the most serious response. In choosing to take Islamic Republics of Iran, the Grey Wardens have provoked Osiris; if there is pettiness, it is on their part. Osiris is well within its rights to respond with the steps that they have.

Indeed. The Osiris Fraternal Order views our response as measured and restrained; seizure of our sovereign territory by the Grey Wardens is an act of war, and responding with a declaration of war against the Grey Wardens would have been an appropriate response to an act of war on their part. We stopped short of a declaration of war as this is the first offense the Grey Wardens have committed against Osiran sovereignty, albeit an egregious one. Should another such offense, or an even more serious one, occur, there will be even more serious consequences than on this occasion.

We appreciate, by the way, everyone who has offered comments in support of Osiris and our sovereignty.
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Postby Biyah » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:51 pm

I think the only thing I'm really taking from this conversation is a profound relief that Funk & Ikania et al doesn't get to dictate our internal policy, or our reactions to a diplomatic faux pas on the part of others. Thank God for small favors.

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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:04 am

Funkadelia wrote:Why didn't the natives protect themselves?


Where were the Defenders to hel- oh that's right. :P

I find the Grey Warden's bragging on this matter to be highly ironic, given that whenever raiders hit up a place, we're "evil darkspawn". Apparently only the Fendas are allowed to justifiably attack anywhere. XD
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