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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:05 am

I see there's a condemnation coming.
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Postby Bodobol » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:23 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:I see there's a condemnation coming.


Both the Liberation and Condemn Lazarus proposals are illegal, and not just for being literally the exact same proposal.

The Condemn Stujenske proposal may make quorum, but it won't pass.
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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:24 pm

There shouldn't be that much attention dedicated to the condemnation anyways, effort should be redirected to removing the illegitimate tyrant. International policies should only serve to highlight and inform of this problem, it really is only PR.

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Postby Solorni » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:26 pm

Doesn't Stu have the support of the native sinkerites?
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Postby Old Hope » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:52 pm

Solorni wrote:Doesn't Stu have the support of the native sinkerites?

Foreign nations marched in to keep Stu's endorsement count up. It's pretty obvious.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:53 pm

Old Hope wrote:
Solorni wrote:Doesn't Stu have the support of the native sinkerites?

Foreign nations marched in to keep Stu's endorsement count up. It's pretty obvious.


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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:33 pm

Old Hope wrote:
Solorni wrote:Doesn't Stu have the support of the native sinkerites?

Foreign nations marched in to keep Stu's endorsement count up. It's pretty obvious.

To be fair, there hasn't been a mass invasion of Stu-ites, there have been some mercs, but not many. Part of the problem is the revolution is still in it's infancy, and Stujenske is very powerful. He's losing ground and a lot of native support, but there are mercs coming in, not to mention the hard line native Stu-ites.
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Postby Lazmac » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:31 pm

The New Roman Nation Legion wrote:To be fair, there hasn't been a mass invasion of Stu-ites, there have been some mercs, but not many. Part of the problem is the revolution is still in it's infancy, and [nation=Stujenske] is very powerful. He's losing ground and a lot of native support, but there are mercs coming in, not to mention the hard line native Stu-ites.

This isn't correct. Stujenske has lost 25 native endorsements since the coup began, and those have been replaced by 30 nations that weren't refounded in Lazarus but rather relocated to Lazarus from other regions, as well as a few nations that were refounded in Lazarus after the coup and could also be stealth foreigners. Regardless, 25 native endorsements lost, at least 30 foreign endorsements gained.
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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:36 pm

Lazmac wrote:
The New Roman Nation Legion wrote:To be fair, there hasn't been a mass invasion of Stu-ites, there have been some mercs, but not many. Part of the problem is the revolution is still in it's infancy, and Stujenske is very powerful. He's losing ground and a lot of native support, but there are mercs coming in, not to mention the hard line native Stu-ites.

This isn't correct. Stujenske has lost 25 native endorsements since the coup began, and those have been replaced by 30 nations that weren't refounded in Lazarus but rather relocated to Lazarus from other regions, as well as a few nations that were refounded in Lazarus after the coup and could also be stealth foreigners. Regardless, 25 native endorsements lost, at least 30 foreign endorsements gained.

30 out of 180 is a low count. Also, we both know how hard it would be to refound a nation and pray it ends up in Lazarus to endorse him. That's a highly convoluted plan. I agree with 30 being the foreign count, but I think that is all the foreigners up until this point (I saw the dispatch btw).
Regardless, Stujenske can not hold against the entirety of the region, which is why I said he's losing ground and am campaigning for more to withdraw their endorsements on the RMB.
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Postby Lazmac » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:42 pm

The New Roman Nation Legion wrote:30 out of 180 is a low count. Also, we both know how hard it would be to refound a nation and pray it ends up in Lazarus to endorse him. That's a highly convoluted plan. I agree with 30 being the foreign count, but I think that is all the foreigners up until this point (I saw the dispatch btw).
Regardless, [nation=Stujenske] can not hold against the entirety of the region, which is why I said he's losing ground and am campaigning for more to withdraw their endorsements on the RMB.

30 out of 180 is not a low count when one considers the coup has only been going on for four days and those 30 endorsements have all shown up since then.

In regard to getting a nation refounded in Lazarus, it isn't that difficult if you have a number of CTE'd puppets to revive. One nation refounded in Lazarus since the coup and now endorsing Stujenske is flying the questionable, green and black NPOesque flag. That nation is almost certainly a stealth foreigner, despite refounding in Lazarus. Very few of Stujenske's endorsements over the past four days have come from actual Lazarene natives, dozens of whom are instead withdrawing their endorsements.

You are right though that this isn't sustainable for Stujenske. He won't hold Lazarus under these circumstances, particularly while maintaining this radio silence and presenting no vision at all for the region. His vision for Lazarus, as of this moment, is fairly clear: Destruction and domination. That isn't a winning vision. He is Durk without the pizzazz.
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Postby Jumalariik » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:45 pm

Could some Gameplay expert please give me the scoop on which side my region should support? We are Christian, so that should help in helping us decide, could somebody tg me?
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Postby Pollaetorian » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:47 pm

So he should hand his nation over to Durk then. Tbh, I'm just waiting for that part.

Jumalariik wrote:Could some Gameplay expert please give me the scoop on which side my region should support? We are Christian, so that should help in helping us decide, could somebody tg me?
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PRL is communist. Stu's regime is a rogue dictatorship etc etc. Which aligns with Christianity more? :P
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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:48 pm

Lazmac wrote:30 out of 180 is not a low count when one considers the coup has only been going on for four days and those 30 endorsements have all shown up since then.

In regard to getting a nation refounded in Lazarus, it isn't that difficult if you have a number of CTE'd puppets to revive. One nation refounded in Lazarus since the coup and now endorsing Stujenske is flying the questionable, green and black NPOesque flag. That nation is almost certainly a stealth foreigner, despite refounding in Lazarus. Very few of Stujenske's endorsements over the past four days have come from actual Lazarene natives, dozens of whom are instead withdrawing their endorsements.

You are right though that this isn't sustainable for Stujenske. He won't hold Lazarus under these circumstances, particularly while maintaining this radio silence and presenting no vision at all for the region. His vision for Lazarus, as of this moment, is fairly clear: Destruction and domination. That isn't a winning vision. He is Durk without the pizzazz.

This is true, that is an impressive amount in so little time.

I still don't think that stealth endorsing is a large problem, maybe a side note to a much larger one, the main problem is just the outright invasions. And the troubling thing about that is that either not a lot of people have caught on, or worse, they just don't care.

Not to mention that he isn't even voting on the WA resolutions, AND is failing to stop the embassy shut downs, those, if anything, are the largest indicators to the residents that there is something majorly wrong going on.

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Postby Jumalariik » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:49 pm

Pollaetorian wrote:So he should hand his nation over to Durk then. Tbh, I'm just waiting for that part.

Jumalariik wrote:Could some Gameplay expert please give me the scoop on which side my region should support? We are Christian, so that should help in helping us decide, could somebody tg me?
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PRL is communist. Stu's regime is a rogue dictatorship etc etc. Which aligns with Christianity more? :P

Neither. Thing is, I think that Stu could be more easily reasoned with in terms of Christian interests. :)
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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:58 pm

Jumalariik wrote:Neither. Thing is, I think that Stu could be more easily reasoned with in terms of Christian interests. :)

Of course it's also important to consider the will of the people. :P Removing Stujenske could allow for the people to build anew. After the fire then a new forest can arise from the ashes type of thing. Think of Stu like the Pharaohs of old, an oppressive dictator who forces his people to work for his glory. That is why a democratically elected leader is so important, freedom stems from democracy, which builds religion.

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Postby Jumalariik » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:04 pm

The New Roman Nation Legion wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:Neither. Thing is, I think that Stu could be more easily reasoned with in terms of Christian interests. :)

Of course it's also important to consider the will of the people. :P Removing Stujenske could allow for the people to build anew. After the fire then a new forest can arise from the ashes type of thing. Think of Stu like the Pharaohs of old, an oppressive dictator who forces his people to work for his glory. That is why a democratically elected leader is so important, freedom stems from democracy, which builds religion.

Well, right now, it seems that there are two sides: communist dictators or non-communist dictators.

Getting a republic like TCR's would be ideal, but that does not seem realistic.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:06 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Pollaetorian wrote:So he should hand his nation over to Durk then. Tbh, I'm just waiting for that part.



PRL is communist. Stu's regime is a rogue dictatorship etc etc. Which aligns with Christianity more? :P

Neither. Thing is, I think that Stu could be more easily reasoned with in terms of Christian interests. :)


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Postby The New Roman Nation Legion » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:09 pm

Jumalariik wrote:Well, right now, it seems that there are two sides: communist dictators or non-communist dictators.

Getting a republic like TCR's would be ideal, but that does not seem realistic.

It's actually pretty possible. Which is both good and bad. The regional security is going to be compromised by this revolution because there is no clear cut opposition leader, except maybe the ones in exile. Many in Lazarus will be making a bid for the delegacy which will weaken the region, but give it a lot of possibilities.

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Postby Jumalariik » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:30 pm

I should have our region have our own opposition leader to take over. XD
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Postby Funkadelia » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Jumalariik wrote:I should have our region have our own opposition leader to take over. XD

Good luck with that. :)
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Postby Comrade Zhenli » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:23 pm

Report: Captured Flag Promises Insights into Reactionary Psyche

Every day, those loyal to the People’s Republic of Lazarus continue to slip beneath the noses of Stujenske’s bumbling stooges to the sanctuary of the Catacombs. Recently, one such new arrival brought not only their fierce devotion to the law and the people, but an example of the new flag which the rogue chairman has unlawful imposed on the region as well. This caused something of a commotion when the news broke, as Comrade Funkadelia’s objections to Stujenske not flying the regional flag set down in law was a precursor to the chairman’s coup. Hoping that its construction might offer insights into the damaged psyche of the reactionary mind, a team of premier researchers rescued the flag from inadvertent damage by the curious clamoring for a glimpse.

The first discovery our researchers made was that the phoenix image in the flag’s center had been sewn on rather than into the flag. While the emblem was visible on the flag’s obverse side, on the reverse side only an outline of the uneven, slapdash stitches with which it had been attached could be seen. A hypothesis was forwarded that the flag had been produced by an individual who did not understand that flags are meant to be viewed from either side.

The hypothesis was corroborated as the examination of the reverse side continued. In the lower left hand corner, the cryptic phrase “oc dont steel [sic]” had been written, using what testing revealed to be a Crayola “Battery Charged Blue” marker. The quality of the letters was so crude as to be nigh illegible, and handwriting experts of the Judicial Cadre’s forensics unit estimated the writer to have no more than three years of schooling. The message itself would later be identified by ethnographers from the Cultural Cadre as a ritualistic mantra, commonly used by primitive cultures to stake a claim to pilfered or pillaged spoils. Had the researchers known this at the time, they may have anticipated what they found next.

It had escaped notice at first in the dim background light of the Catacombs, but a closer inspection under a flashlight uncovered a patch of blue color near the flag’s center where its design suggested there ought to have been green. Odder still, where a seam between the two colors was expected our researchers instead found a transition in hue across a single piece of fabric. The truth presented itself shortly: it was blue cloth which someone had attempted to dye green and, whether in haste or in sloth, neglected to do the work properly.

Suspicions roused, our researchers reexamined the white partitions of the flag. These too were revealed to be sloppy cover jobs, this time with bleach on black cloth. A version of the flag with the black left unbleached has since also come into our possession, confirming our researchers’ conclusion. With the data available to them, forensic experts of the Judicial Cadre were able to produce a facsimile of the possible original flag. The reproduction was near identical to the flag of the New Pacific Order, but we’re certain that any similarities between the theorized flag and that of our dear friends in the Pacific is mere coincidence.

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From left to right: Stujenske’s modified flag, with blue visible; the same flag without the black removed, blue still visible; a recreation of what the original flag may have looked like; the flag of the New Pacific Order.

The data collected during the examination is now being carefully transcribed and cataloged for review by Lazarus’s top physicians and psychologists. Their work on the questions posed by it, such as why the reactionary mind is seemingly incapable of original creative works or distinguishing two of the most basic colors, will surely be both fascinating and groundbreaking.

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Postby Oseiria » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:43 pm

Feels like the coup is becoming more and more like a foreign occupation..

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Postby Funkadelia » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:48 pm

Oseiria wrote:Feels like the coup is becoming more and more like a foreign occupation..

That's because that's what it is.
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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:16 pm

lol... if it were Gatesville in the NPO's place, people would be all over them. the NS community is hopelessly naive (especially the pan-GCR community), so don't expect anything of significance to be done to the NPO in retaliation. you've already lost.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:06 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Oseiria wrote:Feels like the coup is becoming more and more like a foreign occupation..

That's because that's what it is.


Because Lazarus would never condone the long term occupation of regions, now would it? :roll:
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