The Wartime Gazette - People Mobilize for Victory

[Kazmr]

Managing poorly? Are you kidding me? Hobbes poured his soul into that thing. He spent his hard-earned money to provide us a kickass forum and did everything right!

I spent $40 on the forum myself, Milo who still owns the license paid more, and many others chipped in as well. The forum was not just Hobbes', but he insisted that any and all decisions on moderation where, ultimately, his, and whoever he wanted to bring in to moderate was final. Where's that democracy you so love?

[Ikania]

There was no mention of unwillingness to do whatever you just said. You got rid of him because he wanted to take away a bit of your power to prevent future tyranny. That's the bottom line.

Llamas' impact on a democracy movement would have been no different if he was Vice-Chairman or a citizen. It would probably have been better served as a member of the People's Congress. But of course, he moved his nations out of the region, throwing away his ability to enact change in Lazarus. That was a choice he made, not me. If you were serious about a democratic movement, you all would have stayed in the region and tried to do it, but you didn't because you threw a fit about the dismissal.

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

So you're saying that if we REALLY wanted to bring democracy to Lazarus, we should have stayed in the region when you threatened to ban us if we continued? Getting real tired of your shit Funk.

[Ikania]

Managing poorly? Are you kidding me? Hobbes poured his soul into that thing. He spent his hard-earned money to provide us a kickass forum and did everything right!

I spent $40 on the forum myself, Milo who still owns the license paid more, and many others chipped in as well. The forum was not just Hobbes', but he insisted that any and all decisions on moderation where, ultimately, his, and whoever he wanted to bring in to moderate was final. Where's that democracy you so love?

What you donated doesn't matter. Well, it did, but it doesn't anymore. He hosted the site, and he payed for it with money that could easily be spent on something more worthwhile. He was good at being an administrator. And you're accusing him of being a bad one to cover up your hatred for his views.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Now that I'm done reminding Consular about that one incident he hopes everyone will forget so he can go back to claiming he's a flawless pointman...

How many utter failures have you enjoyed, Tim? I can't actually think of any, probably because you actually do so very little. I'm gonna really have to work at losing those delegacies, if I want to be as useless as you one day.

Consular, Founded: Apr 11, 2013

Maybe you can't think of any because you know very little of anything that occurred before you joined the game. :|

[Funkadelia]

Llamas' impact on a democracy movement would have been no different if he was Vice-Chairman or a citizen. It would probably have been better served as a member of the People's Congress. But of course, he moved his nations out of the region, throwing away his ability to enact change in Lazarus. That was a choice he made, not me. If you were serious about a democratic movement, you all would have stayed in the region and tried to do it, but you didn't because you threw a fit about the dismissal.

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

Actually, Ezelis also left the region. Just goes to show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Karpathos]

Llamas' impact on a democracy movement would have been no different if he was Vice-Chairman or a citizen. It would probably have been better served as a member of the People's Congress. But of course, he moved his nations out of the region, throwing away his ability to enact change in Lazarus. That was a choice he made, not me. If you were serious about a democratic movement, you all would have stayed in the region and tried to do it, but you didn't because you threw a fit about the dismissal.

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

So you're saying that if we REALLY wanted to bring democracy to Lazarus, we should have stayed in the region when you threatened to ban us if we continued? Getting real tired of your shit Funk.

You had all the democracy you needed.

[Ikania]

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

Actually, Ezelis also left the region. Just goes to show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually, he didn't. I remember going to his nation page after he'd been dismissed as VC and seeing he was still in Lazarus, and I realized you hadn't banned anyone. I remember him arriving in the Warzones with Ezelis and saying welp I guess I'm staying here for now.

Proof: http://www.nationstates.net/region=warz ... 7#p7336297 After he was dismissed.

[Funkadelia]

Actually, Ezelis also left the region. Just goes to show that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually, he didn't. I remember going to his nation page after he'd been dismissed as VC and seeing he was still in Lazarus, and I realized you hadn't banned anyone. I remember him arriving in the Warzones with Ezelis and saying welp I guess I'm staying here for now.

And I suppressed your free speech by excluding you from the region? Please, spare me.

He moved Ezelis shortly after with a brief RMB post. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about, so why do you keep talking? I have never forcibly removed anyone's citizenship. That's not even legal. Any citizenship removals have been people moving their nations out of the region on their own free will.

[Ikania]

Actually, he didn't. I remember going to his nation page after he'd been dismissed as VC and seeing he was still in Lazarus, and I realized you hadn't banned anyone. I remember him arriving in the Warzones with Ezelis and saying welp I guess I'm staying here for now.

And I suppressed your free speech by excluding you from the region? Please, spare me.

He moved Ezelis shortly after with a brief RMB post. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about, so why do you keep talking? I have never forcibly removed anyone's citizenship. That's not even legal. Any citizenship removals have been people moving their nations out of the region on their own free will.

HE MOVED EZELIS BECAUSE YOU REMOVED HIM FROM HIS POSITION

HOW HARD IS IT TO GET

I never even talked about the citizenship, which I understand you removed only after you left.

[Funkadelia]

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

This is you implying I forced him out of regional involvement by illegally stripping his citizenship.

I don't think your all caps is going to help in this situation. I don't care why he moved Ezelis. It wasn't my decision. He could have stayed, but he decided against it. I have already given my reasoning as to why he was removed from the Vice-Chairman spot. As much as it pains you to hear this, I am not going to tell you anything different just because you want to hear a story that fits your narrative more.

[Consular]

Maybe you can't think of any because you know very little of anything that occurred before you joined the game. :|

It was actually a comment on how he does nothing these days but post snarky comments. *Watches Ava miss the point entirely*

But lets not let my <3 for Tim derail things.

And yes, I messed up the quoting twice in this post.

[Ikania]

He moved out The Republic of Llamas, in order to go and help with matter concerning stability of the Warzones. His main nation, Ezelis, stayed. Nations in the region has nothing to do with enacting change as he is not the Delegate.

This is you implying I forced him out of regional involvement by illegally stripping his citizenship.

I don't think your all caps is going to help in this situation. I don't care why he moved Ezelis. It wasn't my decision. He could have stayed, but he decided against it. I have already given my reasoning as to why he was removed from the Vice-Chairman spot. As much as it pains you to hear this, I am not going to tell you anything different just because you want to hear a story that fits your narrative more.

Look, you're basically saying hey, look out, carry on or I'll ban you. This gives us the signal that dissent will clearly not be tolerated. As much as you say we could have stayed, it obviously would not have taken long before you banned us.

It doesn't matter anymore though. Your government is crumbling and there's nothing you can do. Oh boy, can't you just SMELL the collapse coming?

[Funkadelia]

It doesn't matter anymore though. Your government is crumbling and there's nothing you can do. Oh boy, can't you just SMELL the collapse coming?

Expert opinion, you heard it here folks.

[Ikania]

It doesn't matter anymore though. Your government is crumbling and there's nothing you can do. Oh boy, can't you just SMELL the collapse coming?

Expert opinion, you heard it here folks.

Who's left? You, Feux, Aperi, who is very grouchy towards me and instigated a war between Lazarus and Osiris (think about that), Lenny, who is CLEARLY a spai, and... Ainin, who's the only good guy left. In total that is 4 active members. It's a matter of time before the PRL crumbles.

[Karpathos]

Expert opinion, you heard it here folks.

Who's left? You, Feux, Aperi, who is very grouchy towards me and instigated a war between Lazarus and Osiris (think about that), Lenny, who is CLEARLY a spai, and... Ainin, who's the only good guy left. In total that is 4 active members. It's a matter of time before the PRL crumbles.

Porque no te callas?

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Maybe you can't think of any because you know very little of anything that occurred before you joined the game. :|

It was actually a comment on how he does nothing these days but post snarky comments. *Watches Ava miss the point entirely*

But lets not let my <3 for Tim derail things.

And yes, I messed up the quoting twice in this post.

He is the Vice President and Minister of Defence of Spiritus. Judging by the roles you have in Albion, I'm going to go ahead and guess that he does about as much as you do.

[Ikania]

Who's left? You, Feux, Aperi, who is very grouchy towards me and instigated a war between Lazarus and Osiris (think about that), Lenny, who is CLEARLY a spai, and... Ainin, who's the only good guy left. In total that is 4 active members. It's a matter of time before the PRL crumbles.

Porque no te callas?

You said that to me in Lazarus already. I don't want to report you, please stop.

[Karpathos]

Porque no te callas?

You said that to me in Lazarus already. I don't want to report you, please stop.

It's applicable to your incessant whining.

[Ikania]

You said that to me in Lazarus already. I don't want to report you, please stop.

It's applicable to your incessant whining.

Seriously, stop. Can we get back on topic?

[Tim-Opolis]

It was actually a comment on how he does nothing these days but post snarky comments. *Watches Ava miss the point entirely*

But lets not let my <3 for Tim derail things.

And yes, I messed up the quoting twice in this post.

He is the Vice President and Minister of Defence of Spiritus. Judging by the roles you have in Albion, I'm going to go ahead and guess that he does about as much as you do.

Only partially correct. I'm only the Minister of Defence for Spiritus, though I am also the Founder. I'm also The East Pacific's Minister of Immigration, Commissioner of The East Pacific Police Service, a Regional Assembly Representative to the FRA, and an active updater that is a large reason for TBR's lack of regular Major Update reports. I think it's quite safe to say than I do more than the Imperialist yes-man.

[Karpathos]

It's applicable to your incessant whining.

Seriously, stop. Can we get back on topic?

You mean your whining about why you're no longer in Lazarus? I think we get it already.

[Ikania]

Seriously, stop. Can we get back on topic?

You mean your whining about why you're no longer in Lazarus? I think we get it already.

The topic is about Kazmr preaching about the stability of the PRL. Stahp!

Anyway Kaz, I think I've made my point. See ya when Laz falls.

[Consular]

Before we're warned for straying: If Tim so wishes, we can continue our petty little thing going on here some other time. Best leave this thread for Ikania and co to argue about... things.

[Karpathos]

You mean your whining about why you're no longer in Lazarus? I think we get it already.

The topic is about Kazmr preaching about the stability of the PRL. Stahp!

Anyway Kaz, I think I've made my point. See ya when Laz falls.

Good luck with that. You should have saved all the tonterias you posted here for another stellar article in Europeia

[Ikania]

The topic is about Kazmr preaching about the stability of the PRL. Stahp!

Anyway Kaz, I think I've made my point. See ya when Laz falls.

Good luck with that. You should have saved all the tonterias you posted here for another stellar article in Europeia

Let's just let this thread die or get back to what was ORIGINALLY discussed. Let's just do that before I leave.