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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Solorni wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:Your just afraid we'd be too good at raiding if we all did it :P

I do think that defenders would make better raiders than raiders defenders :P

Well raiding is easier than defending.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:36 pm

How is defending harder Mahaj? Be online for update, spot raiders, follow them about and try to beat their number of WA's with a higher number. Takes one update to teach someone that, two possibly.
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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:07 pm

I would say Defending requires more dedication. More difficult? No.....more time consuming? Yes.
Invaders do not sit during update after update and watch for Defenders :P
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:20 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:How is defending harder Mahaj? Be online for update, spot raiders, follow them about and try to beat their number of WA's with a higher number. Takes one update to teach someone that, two possibly.

Because the steps for raiders are 1. Be online for update and 2. Move into region

No spotting or following needed.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:31 pm

Hey knock it off with the threadjacking - this thread's about people retiring and reminding them they're here forever, not about which side of d/r is harder.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:17 pm

Sorry todd.

So recently we've lost Uni/Earth, Codger and Kogvuron from gameplay. Anyone else gone?
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Postby Eist » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:28 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:Sorry todd.

So recently we've lost Uni/Earth, Codger and Kogvuron from gameplay. Anyone else gone?


We had one guy leave TITO a while back, but, overall, we are pretty much intact ^_^
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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:58 pm

I will miss seeing Codger around.
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Postby Milograd » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:07 pm

Sichuan Pepper wrote:I will miss seeing Codger around.

Likewise. He always had an interesting perspective on things.
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Postby Feux » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:07 pm

Sichuan Pepper wrote:I will miss seeing Codger around.

Me too. :(
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Postby Katganistan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:19 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:See!

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Don't forget, you're here forever

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Postby Todd McCloud » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:28 pm

You can check out anytime you like, but you may never leave!
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Postby The Bruce » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:53 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:People moving on? NS no longer enjoyable? Everything's been done in the game?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

Guess I'm more or less concerned about the recent rash of retirements I've heard here and there. Suppose there's something we can all do to more or less make it harder for people to retire, or is it an inevitability, like no matter what it will happen. And if that's the case, are we doing enough to continuously indoctrinate a new crop of players to do new and exciting things in the game?


I state for the record that I have been thoroughly entertained by Todd McCloud! Although to be fair, he should really choose some different music for his next dance routine...

It's the Cycle of Gameplay. Players come and players go. I don't think that there's been a year (other than 2002) of NationStates where well known and well liked (or hated) players didn't leave the game. There's certainly been no worse year for that than 2006 and if that didn't finish us I think we'll be kicking around for a while yet.

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Postby All Good People » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:00 pm

*nods* How many great players have we seen move on into that RL world sunset already ? Sad to see them leave, but it makes more room for newer players to develop and take their place.

I remember back in 2004 when I swore I wouldn't stick around NS for longer than a year. :P
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Postby The Bruce » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:19 pm

The first really big blow to my region was to the RP community in 2006 during the big Invisionfree crash, but we seemed to rebound for 2007. 2006 hurt a lot of other regions bad because of the emergence of NationStates knock-offs, but that didn't seem to do much to our region. 2008 was a tough year though, with the NS 2 schism.

Facebook has also been tough on a lot of NS communities, with people forming communities and friendships on NationStates, only to port that onto Facebook and leave NationStates behind. Our third delegate and still good friend in real life, has a lot to answer for when he created a Facebook group for our region and dragged many of us to that accursed place of data mining. :lol:
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Postby Eist » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:26 pm

Yea, I'm sorry to hear Codger's leaving, too. Interesting character; he will be missed.
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Postby Vakolic » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:45 pm

The reason people are retiring is obviously because we have lost our reasonable degree of control over their small minds.

We must begin rolling out our social life-suppressing drugs once again, my friends, to perge the masses of any degree of want to leave the game!

((Oh shit! Zhe evil plan ist now public! Oh no...change of plan...change of plan. How about beer? That always encourages people to stay...combined with the drugs, of course.))
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Postby Aging Kings Who Look Good » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:11 pm

Vakolic wrote:The reason people are retiring is obviously because we have lost our reasonable degree of control over their small minds.

We must begin rolling out our social life-suppressing drugs once again, my friends, to perge the masses of any degree of want to leave the game!

((Oh shit! Zhe evil plan ist now public! Oh no...change of plan...change of plan. How about beer? That always encourages people to stay...combined with the drugs, of course.))


Who invited this asshole? :eyebrow:

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Postby Cephal Talleyrand » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:55 pm

Aging Kings Who Look Good wrote:
Vakolic wrote:The reason people are retiring is obviously because we have lost our reasonable degree of control over their small minds.

We must begin rolling out our social life-suppressing drugs once again, my friends, to perge the masses of any degree of want to leave the game!

((Oh shit! Zhe evil plan ist now public! Oh no...change of plan...change of plan. How about beer? That always encourages people to stay...combined with the drugs, of course.))


Who invited this asshole? :eyebrow:


At which point are they invited? I'd usually consider that they invite themselves.

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Postby Vakolic » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:25 pm

Aging Kings Who Look Good wrote:
Vakolic wrote:The reason people are retiring is obviously because we have lost our reasonable degree of control over their small minds.

We must begin rolling out our social life-suppressing drugs once again, my friends, to perge the masses of any degree of want to leave the game!

((Oh shit! Zhe evil plan ist now public! Oh no...change of plan...change of plan. How about beer? That always encourages people to stay...combined with the drugs, of course.))


Who invited this asshole? :eyebrow:

Who closed the thread?
Also...if it's a closed thread...who are you?
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Postby All Good People » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:44 am

The Bruce wrote:Facebook has also been tough on a lot of NS communities, with people forming communities and friendships on NationStates, only to port that onto Facebook and leave NationStates behind. Our third delegate and still good friend in real life, has a lot to answer for when he created a Facebook group for our region and dragged many of us to that accursed place of data mining. :lol:


Yeah, Facebook....bleh. What a time waster and trap. Why make data mining so easy for corporations, governments, and employers? People use to be smarter about their personal data.

And Cybernations....yuck. Robbed alot of good players from NS.
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Postby Vakolic » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:52 am

All Good People wrote:
The Bruce wrote:Facebook has also been tough on a lot of NS communities, with people forming communities and friendships on NationStates, only to port that onto Facebook and leave NationStates behind. Our third delegate and still good friend in real life, has a lot to answer for when he created a Facebook group for our region and dragged many of us to that accursed place of data mining. :lol:


Yeah, Facebook....bleh. What a time waster and trap. Why make data mining so easy for corporations, governments, and employers? People use to be smarter about their personal data.

And Cybernations....yuck. Robbed alot of good players from NS.

Don't even mention statesmanship...the rp boards would be far better if it wasn't for that acursed site.
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Postby Cephal Talleyrand » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:56 am

Vakolic wrote:
All Good People wrote:
Yeah, Facebook....bleh. What a time waster and trap. Why make data mining so easy for corporations, governments, and employers? People use to be smarter about their personal data.

And Cybernations....yuck. Robbed alot of good players from NS.

Don't even mention statesmanship...the rp boards would be far better if it wasn't for that acursed site.


And yet you mention it? Looks like someone's pulled a jinx.

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Postby Vakolic » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:08 pm

Cephal Talleyrand wrote:
Vakolic wrote:Don't even mention statesmanship...the rp boards would be far better if it wasn't for that acursed site.


And yet you mention it? Looks like someone's pulled a jinx.

oh shush...
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Postby Questers » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:40 pm

rofl u mad bro
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