The Rejected Times

[Lord Ravenclaw]

Right, because while holding government positions, one cannot possibly speak on behalf of theirself. There I go thinking I could respond as an individual again. Me and my silly delusions, lol.

But you can't. When I was Delegate, I refrained from making posts that could cast TEP in a bad light. Why? Because I know that when you are representing a region, you should forgo initiating unjustified attacks. You have a responsibility to the regions you are a member of. Your cavalier treatment of those positions you knowingly chose to accept is, lightly put, unseemly conduct in the political Gameplay sphere.

If you wonder why you are receiving criticism for representing a region poorly with your individual opinion, that is because you have misrepresented what you took responsibility for by choosing to attack a region which has done you no harm. When you represent a region, everything you say can and likely will be taken as a reflection of your region.

If you have an issue with having to limit your words to fulfill your responsibilities, you should find positions in which you are not accountable for the international opinion of your region.

This covers everything I would say, with one addition:

You are were the Minister of Foreign Affairs for a Sinker which is still recovering from outside occupation and a coup. Your role during this period would have been vital to restoring, refreshing and regenerating Lazarene diplomatic credibility, standing and relationships across NationStates with the momentum that a successful victory and election has given the region.

One thing you do not do, and it is something I learnt - and every other diplomat has learnt - is to speak without thinking; emotional or ill thought out responses are not the way for diplomats who wish to retain their positions for very long; least of all to another Feeder who has done nothing to warrant such aggression.

If you are going to act like that, do it under a nation which does not display your Government role and at least pretend to have respect for the regions you represent.

[Kazmr]

Right, because while holding government positions, one cannot possibly speak on behalf of theirself. There I go thinking I could respond as an individual again. Me and my silly delusions, lol.

You can absolutely speak for yourself, but you must always keep in mind that you can be held accountable for what you say. If you're a foreign minister, railing about a region or individual could certainly come back to bite you later on should some sort of negotiation ever take place. Likewise, a military commander can certainly 'speak on behalf of themselves' but if they go around saying stuff that could reflect back on their military, they're likely to get in trouble.

The idea that people can speak in the gameplay forum or IRC as 'an individual' and somehow have it not reflect on their government or region, at least if they are in a top-level leadership position, has always struck me the same as how players claiming 'duality' should absolve them from the actions of their other persona (and in case that isn't clear, its never really stood well in my eyes).

[The Church of Satan]

And now that I am fired I can say whatever I want.

If Funk doesn't approve of free speech then that's his character flaw, not mine. All Funk achieved was losing one of his biggest supporters. There are other regions that would gladly have me as part of their government and quite frankly, I'm part of better regions than Lazarus. However it's nice to see how the Lazarene government treats those that fought for its freedom.

And now that my speech is unrestricted, I can say what I really wanted to. I couldn't care less about The West Pacific if I tried. It's not like they've managed to do anything over the last what, 2 years? The biggest thing to happen there since the constitution convention was Milograd taking interest in it, lol.

[RiderSyl]

Damn, CoS. Everyone is wrong except for you, huh?

[Farhand (Ancient)]

Damn, CoS. Everyone is wrong except for you, huh?

Pretty much. Now that he has "opinions" and "free speech", I doubt anybody would want to deal with him in their government right?

[Xoriet]

And now that I am fired I can say whatever I want.

If Funk doesn't approve of free speech then that's his character flaw, not mine. All Funk achieved was losing one of his biggest supporters.

You ran out in a pet because Funk removed you for inappropriate conduct. Funk did so because he cares about Lazarus, and it is still in the recovery phase. He does not need a Minister of Foreign Affairs who cannot serve Lazarus without thinking of his own problems and complaints. If you were truly one of his biggest supporters, you would have stayed regardless instead of running to cry on the Gameplay forums about that freedom-suppressor Funkadelia. Did you support Funk only because you had power? If your loyalty is measured as far as power goes, that is disappointing. I hope you don't give your other, supposedly better regions the same treatment you have given Lazarus today when they do something you don't like.

If you didn't care about TWP, why did you dwell on it? Why did you write such offensive things about it? You have done nothing with this free speech except demonstrate exactly how unprepared you were for shouldering the full weight of the responsibilities with which you were entrusted.

You are not speaking anything about TWP which was not obvious before. What you are trying to do with Funk is contemptible and petty.

I wish your successor luck in polishing away what tarnish you may have managed to give to Lazarus' MoFA position with your negligence.

[Myroria]

And now that I am fired I can say whatever I want.

If Funk doesn't approve of free speech then that's his character flaw, not mine. All Funk achieved was losing one of his biggest supporters. There are other regions that would gladly have me as part of their government and quite frankly, I'm part of better regions than Lazarus. However it's nice to see how the Lazarene government treats those that fought for its freedom.

And now that my speech is unrestricted, I can say what I really wanted to. I couldn't care less about The West Pacific if I tried. It's not like they've managed to do anything over the last what, 2 years? The biggest thing to happen there since the constitution convention was Milograd taking interest in it, lol.

Even the lowliest diplomat is told to hold their tongue if their personal opinions are likely to offend others in the interregional community. You're perfectly entitled to your own opinions on the activity level of the West Pacific, but one doesn't go on a soapbox and start insulting them while wearing your Minister of External Affairs badge proudly. As a diplomat, the community you deal with is as much your boss as the delegate of the region you serve. No one expects to insult their boss and not be punished for it.

If my MoFA-equivalent started insulting other regions, I would remove them too.

[The Church of Satan]

And the part where I should give a crap now is...where?

[Xoriet]

Probably as nonexistent as whatever good reputation you had established in the international community.

[The Other Otter]

Probably as nonexistent as whatever good reputation you had established in the international community.

Basically, this.

[The Church of Satan]

Right, so when every region I'm part of starts throwing me out on my butt (and don't hold your breath, lol) you can say I told you so. Like I said though, don't hold your breath.

[Elegarth]

I haven't thrown you out of TWP's Voice of the Union, but you don't seem to care for it anyway, so I feel I won't need to bother?

Thanks to Xoriet and Raven for their wise posts in the last few hours. Is for people like you that I keep giving GP a chance

[Consular]

The biggest thing to happen there since the constitution convention was Milograd taking interest in it, lol.

You keep adding 'lol' as if there's something funny about your ignorance.

The constitutional convention began after Milograd had already long since departed. You have no idea what you're even talking about.

[The Church of Satan]

And I'm subject to typos like anybody else. Sue me. -_-

Ban me from TWP for all I care. I only came over there because Llamas asked me to. I was surprised I already registered an account on the forum.

[Funkadelia]

And I'm subject to typos like anybody else. Sue me. -_-

Ban me from TWP for all I care. I only came over there because Llamas asked me to. I was surprised I already registered an account on the forum.

Your lack of respect for anyone now that you've been dismissed has proven to me that I made the right choice.

[The Church of Satan]

And after 18 months of service to Lazarus, that is my reward. Betrayed by the one person in Lazarus I trusted to have my back more than anyone. You lost my respect when you showed your true colors. So don't talk to me about respect. It would only be an act of hypocrisy on your part.

[Evil Wolf]

*Evil Wolf munches on popcorn*

This is way better than the Radio program.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

*Evil Wolf munches on popcorn*

This is way better than the Radio program.

Being "normal", "civil" and "good" is overrated when your entire political career can go out the window for you over bruised egos, or other people getting scared that you might have bruised egos.

It's a claim of inactivity. Get over it, kids, he didn't insult anyone's mothers; he suggested that TWP's members have real lives to be getting on with and not much time for NS.

[The Church of Satan]

And only one other person managed to show an ounce of common sense. HE gets it! Is it so hard to understand or am I the first person to comment on TWP's low activity? >_<

[Evil Wolf]

Is it so hard to understand or am I the first person to comment on TWP's low activity? >_<

Mmm, I actually listened to the Broadcast. You said more than that.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Is it so hard to understand or am I the first person to comment on TWP's low activity? >_<

Mmm, I actually listened to the Broadcast. You said more than that.

Not really. Nothing wrong with being cynical.

[The Agnostic Collective]

I find this whole thing reminiscent of when Cormac tried to recall GR as TSP MoFA back in August.

Lesson of the day: Silence will fall

[The Church of Satan]

I said more? And what did I say that was so bad then? What's the big secret that I seem to have released from Pandora's Box? Nothing that hadn't been said before. -_-

[RiderSyl]

I'm indifferent about TWP and the matters concerning it, so I don't have any agenda in this shitshow.

As a person with no agenda in this shitshow...CoS, you mysteriously fucked up somehow. This many people from this many circles all throwing rotten tomatoes at you doesn't just happen on its own.

But, like you and Avakael, I don't understand how you fucked up. ¯\_(o-o)_/¯

[Tim Stark]

There are other regions that would gladly have me as part of their government and quite frankly, I'm part of better regions than Lazarus.

Given that Xoriet, Funkadelia, and the rest have expressed every view I may have on the matter, this is the only bit that actually intrigues me. I'd love to hear this list of regions, and perhaps see testimony that they'd actually want you representing them after this absolute lack of professionalism, respect, and dignity that we saw in your actions today.