Latin motto clinic

[New Ex Patria]

Hey! If I could get a somewhat accurate translation of the following, that'd be awesome: "Vices and virtues, I see no difference."

[Erythrean Thebes]

Vitiae vel virtutes, nullum video discrimen

[New Ex Patria]

Vitiae vel virtutes, nullum video discrimen

Thank you very much. You're a legend.

[Erythrean Thebes]

Can also think of, "Vitia atque Virtutum, nondum stitundum" - for a translation more focused on the being a witticism

[Liberalions]

Hello there,

I'm looking for someone to translate the following into a Latin motto for my nation.

"to strive to seek to find and not to yield"

Either that and/or.

"Tis not too late to seek a newer world"

Whichever is better really.

[Valentine Z]

"Cheers, Loves! The cavalry's here!"

I would love Tracer's quote in Latin!

[Syberis]

Can also think of, "Vitia atque Virtutum, nondum stitundum" - for a translation more focused on the being a witticism

This is based on half-remembered Latin, sadly; been a while, but would "Vitia Virtutumque" perhaps fit the intended meaning better, as it juxtaposes virtue and vice more smoothly? Atque is very clunky, and I've also generally seen it more often used before words beginning with the rare latin soft consonant and vowels. "Vitia et Virtutum" might work as well.

[Merni]

Can someone tell me if my current motto (Jusitcia, Aequalitas, Libertatem, Democratia) is correct in Latin?

[Gigaverse]

Can someone tell me if my current motto (Jusitcia, Aequalitas, Libertatem, Democratia) is correct in Latin?

more like "Iustitia, Aequalitas, Libertas, Democratia"

[Divitalia]

“The state for the people, and the people for the state.”

What would be the translation of this? Thanks in advance!

[Danceria]

What would be an appropriate term for the King of Phoenix (as in, Phoenix Arizona.) I was thinking either "the King-In-Phoenix", or King of Phoenix.

[Danceria]

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[Rotovia-]

What would be an appropriate term for the King of Phoenix (as in, Phoenix Arizona.) I was thinking either "the King-In-Phoenix", or King of Phoenix.

"King of the Phoenicians" has a nice ring.

[Erythrean Thebes]

What would be an appropriate term for the King of Phoenix (as in, Phoenix Arizona.) I was thinking either "the King-In-Phoenix", or King of Phoenix.

The usual Latin term for a king was "King of the X", where X is the name of the national group they represent. Cities did not commonly have a singular king who governed them - albeit, in the Greek-speaking world, there were plenty of despotic city governments which used a range of official titles, but most commonly "despot" or "tyrant".

Still, you could just say "Rex Phoenicis", it means exactly what you want to say.

[Danceria]

What would be an appropriate term for the King of Phoenix (as in, Phoenix Arizona.) I was thinking either "the King-In-Phoenix", or King of Phoenix.

The usual Latin term for a king was "King of the X", where X is the name of the national group they represent. Cities did not commonly have a singular king who governed them - albeit, in the Greek-speaking world, there were plenty of despotic city governments which used a range of official titles, but most commonly "despot" or "tyrant".

Still, you could just say "Rex Phoenicis", it means exactly what you want to say.

But what about Rome? Rome was both a city and a nation, and those who did not live in Rome itself could consider themselves Romans, right?

[Mushet]

Holy crap, this might be the longest continuously active thread on the forums

[Danceria]

Holy crap, this might be the longest continuously active thread on the forums

And I will not let it die! I refuse to rely on potentially erroneous google translations to eloquently tell someone to fuck off my property in the name of King Whathisface of Somewheresland in botched Latin for my medieval RPs.

[Mushet]

Holy crap, this might be the longest continuously active thread on the forums

And I will not let it die! I refuse to rely on potentially erroneous google translations to eloquently tell someone to fuck off my property in the name of King Whathisface of Somewheresland in botched Latin for my medieval RPs.

I saw this in view posts and I was sure I haven't posted in this thread in almost a decade

[Conoga]

The usual Latin term for a king was "King of the X", where X is the name of the national group they represent. Cities did not commonly have a singular king who governed them - albeit, in the Greek-speaking world, there were plenty of despotic city governments which used a range of official titles, but most commonly "despot" or "tyrant".

Still, you could just say "Rex Phoenicis", it means exactly what you want to say.

But what about Rome? Rome was both a city and a nation, and those who did not live in Rome itself could consider themselves Romans, right?

You're applying modern ideas of nationhood to an ancient civilisation.
Being "Roman" meant to be a part of a decentralized culture, not a nation, and was largely limited to the western portion of the Empire.

[Erythrean Thebes]

But what about Rome? Rome was both a city and a nation, and those who did not live in Rome itself could consider themselves Romans, right?

You're applying modern ideas of nationhood to an ancient civilisation.
Being "Roman" meant to be a part of a decentralized culture, not a nation, and was largely limited to the western portion of the Empire.

There were once kings of Rome, when it was still only an Italian tribe. In Livy's history of Rome, they can be referred to as "Rex Romanus", using an adjective instead of a possessive - literally "Roman King".

That won't work for Danceria however, I don't think, because I'm not sure that "Phoenix" has a very clear brand the same way that Rome does . What would be a 'Phoenix King''?

[Danceria]

But what about Rome? Rome was both a city and a nation, and those who did not live in Rome itself could consider themselves Romans, right?

You're applying modern ideas of nationhood to an ancient civilisation.
Being "Roman" meant to be a part of a decentralized culture, not a nation, and was largely limited to the western portion of the Empire.

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks! So an extremely rough translation would be Rex Phoenicis, Rex Mecicanum (The King of Phoenix, the King of the Mexican People?)

You're applying modern ideas of nationhood to an ancient civilisation.
Being "Roman" meant to be a part of a decentralized culture, not a nation, and was largely limited to the western portion of the Empire.

There were once kings of Rome, when it was still only an Italian tribe. In Livy's history of Rome, they can be referred to as "Rex Romanus", using an adjective instead of a possessive - literally "Roman King".

That won't work for Danceria however, I don't think, because I'm not sure that "Phoenix" has a very clear brand the same way that Rome does . What would be a 'Phoenix King''?

Who wouldn't want to be known as a "Phoenix King"? Unless you're a deranged fire bender, it would be *insert Latin word for "very/much kickass"*.

Reason being is in a RP for CK2: After the End, my character is known as: "His Majesty, the Grey Eagle*, the King-In-Phoenix, the Duke of Pinal; Lord of the Rivers, Mountains, and Valleys; Lord of the Arixians, the Sonorese, and the Mexicans; Thrice Blessed and Beloved Champion of the Heroic Sun Goddess, NIKE, in whom we find victory..."

*this is a nickname/cognomen, or as close to a wrestler name/nomme de gurre as you can get.

I would use it to naturally adress the catholic kingdoms in their own language.

[Erythrean Thebes]

You're applying modern ideas of nationhood to an ancient civilisation.
Being "Roman" meant to be a part of a decentralized culture, not a nation, and was largely limited to the western portion of the Empire.

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks! So an extremely rough translation would be Rex Phoenicis, Rex Mecicanum (The King of Phoenix, the King of the Mexican People?)

There were once kings of Rome, when it was still only an Italian tribe. In Livy's history of Rome, they can be referred to as "Rex Romanus", using an adjective instead of a possessive - literally "Roman King".

That won't work for Danceria however, I don't think, because I'm not sure that "Phoenix" has a very clear brand the same way that Rome does . What would be a 'Phoenix King''?

Who wouldn't want to be known as a "Phoenix King"? Unless you're a deranged fire bender, it would be *insert Latin word for "very/much kickass"*.

Reason being is in a RP for CK2: After the End, my character is known as: "His Majesty, the Grey Eagle*, the King-In-Phoenix, the Duke of Pinal; Lord of the Rivers, Mountains, and Valleys; Lord of the Arixians, the Sonorese, and the Mexicans; Thrice Blessed and Beloved Champion of the Heroic Sun Goddess, NIKE, in whom we find victory..."

*this is a nickname/cognomen, or as close to a wrestler name/nomme de gurre as you can get.

I would use it to naturally adress the catholic kingdoms in their own language.

Wow, posh!

I'm not sure about his first pair of names. I don't know if they literally said "His Majesty". As a historian, any expertise of mine ends after the 5th Century, so I don't know much about Medieval royalty. "Eius Maiestas" is the literal translation.

"Grauca Aquila" is "Grey-Eagle", there are many words for the color grey however.

If you really want a clash of civilizations vibe that I think you're going for, you can try and go out for "Rex Supra Phoenice" for a phrase which emphasizes the individual person's epic seizure of Phoenix as his own arbitrary domain. "Rex Phoenicis" means "King of Phoenix".

"Dux Pinalis" is "Duke of Pinal", but for the rule of eloquence you should flip this title and say "Pinalis Dux"

"Dominus Flumenium, Montium, et Vallium" for "Lord of the Rivers etc."

"Dominus Arixianorum, Sonororum, Mehicanumque" is a probable choice for "Lord of the Arixians" etc, but the rule of eloquence urges you to flip this one as well, "Arixianorum, Sonororum, Mehicanumque Dominus"

"Solari Deae Invictae Vir Dulcissimus et Divinus," means "Man Utterly Loved and Blessed to the Unconquered Sun Goddess"

"Nike" is not Latin, how do you mean it? You can potentially just leave it in there...

Your last one is hard because it is not a Latin thought. You could do "Vindex Nostri Victoriae" which means "Champion of Our Victory"

[Danceria]

Ah. Makes sense. Thanks! So an extremely rough translation would be Rex Phoenicis, Rex Mecicanum (The King of Phoenix, the King of the Mexican People?)

Who wouldn't want to be known as a "Phoenix King"? Unless you're a deranged fire bender, it would be *insert Latin word for "very/much kickass"*.

Reason being is in a RP for CK2: After the End, my character is known as: "His Majesty, the Grey Eagle*, the King-In-Phoenix, the Duke of Pinal; Lord of the Rivers, Mountains, and Valleys; Lord of the Arixians, the Sonorese, and the Mexicans; Thrice Blessed and Beloved Champion of the Heroic Sun Goddess, NIKE, in whom we find victory..."

*this is a nickname/cognomen, or as close to a wrestler name/nomme de gurre as you can get.

I would use it to naturally adress the catholic kingdoms in their own language.

Wow, posh!

I'm not sure about his first pair of names. I don't know if they literally said "His Majesty". As a historian, any expertise of mine ends after the 5th Century, so I don't know much about Medieval royalty. "Eius Maiestas" is the literal translation.

"Grauca Aquila" is "Grey-Eagle", there are many words for the color grey however.

If you really want a clash of civilizations vibe that I think you're going for, you can try and go out for "Rex Supra Phoenice" for a phrase which emphasizes the individual person's epic seizure of Phoenix as his own arbitrary domain. "Rex Phoenicis" means "King of Phoenix".

"Dux Pinalis" is "Duke of Pinal", but for the rule of eloquence you should flip this title and say "Pinalis Dux"

"Dominus Flumenium, Montium, et Vallium" for "Lord of the Rivers etc."

"Dominus Arixianorum, Sonororum, Mehicanumque" is a probable choice for "Lord of the Arixians" etc, but the rule of eloquence urges you to flip this one as well, "Arixianorum, Sonororum, Mehicanumque Dominus"

"Solari Deae Invictae Vir Dulcissimus et Divinus," means "Man Utterly Loved and Blessed to the Unconquered Sun Goddess"

"Nike" is not Latin, how do you mean it? You can potentially just leave it in there...

Your last one is hard because it is not a Latin thought. You could do "Vindex Nostri Victoriae" which means "Champion of Our Victory"

Go big or go home . Now for some clarification:

Grey eagle can also be used for his grey emminice nature, something plain and stealthy, denoting a pragmatic and apex predator rather than a resplendent creature.

Rex Phoenicis it would be, as Phoenix proper has belonged to House Chavez for...five generations at least? It wouldn't make sense for him to be known as the conqurer of Phoenix (as that is what I assume to be the meaning of "epic seizure".)

Lastly, NIKE as in Goddess. It is capitalized to denote reverence, as the laws of the Goddess Who Grants is above the whims of any monarch.

[Anti Slavikia]

Is "Regnabit Foederis" translated as "The Alliance shall reign"?

[Danceria]

Is "Regnabit Foederis" translated as "The Alliance shall reign"?

"Reg-nabbit" XD I'm sorry, I just hear a recheck/farmer Roman shout that in a southern accent whenever something unfortunate happens.