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Postby Daytime to Night » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:25 am

Indusse wrote:Is there a way to know about the regions that existed before antiquity. That is if there was a region called India which was found before the Present India,then who was the founder.


You may already know this but India was founderless for a long time and the region was refounded (in 2011?) with the help of 10000 Islands and Yggdrasil as mentioned on this Commendation. Kathiawar rings a bell so was probably the original founder that CTE'd very early on.
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Postby Indusse » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:21 pm

Daytime to Night wrote:
Indusse wrote:Is there a way to know about the regions that existed before antiquity. That is if there was a region called India which was found before the Present India,then who was the founder.


You may already know this but India was founderless for a long time and the region was refounded (in 2011?) with the help of 10000 Islands and Yggdrasil as mentioned on this Commendation. Kathiawar rings a bell so was probably the original founder that CTE'd very early on.

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Postby Franklinton » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:29 pm

Is there anyway to change ur countries policies and views besides the issues that come up once in a while?

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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:01 pm

Franklinton wrote:Is there anyway to change ur countries policies and views besides the issues that come up once in a while?

The accrued changes to your stats from all issues can change your nation's policies. So if you want to go towards a dictatorship, start taking away your citizen's rights. If you wanna go towards democracy, give more rights. You can go socialist by slowly chipping away at the free market. Stuff like that.
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Postby The Sexy Legged Republic » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:10 pm

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Awesomeland012345 wrote:No, everyone gains the same amount of population, except that when a new nation is first made, they gain population faster. Then, later, they gain population between 5-10 million (I believe) per major update.


Incorrect. They gain a very low amount of population (1 million) a day when their nation is created, eventually the population growth rises, and then when a nation reaches 62 million population it grows randomly, somewhere between 5-7 million a day.

You appear very misinformed.

Thanks for stating this, I was looking for this info because I have some friends who grew more rapidly than me even though we started the same day. Maybe RNG got them to 62 mil first

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Postby Ghost Land » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:20 am

The Sexy Legged Republic wrote:
Zandilund wrote:
Incorrect. They gain a very low amount of population (1 million) a day when their nation is created, eventually the population growth rises, and then when a nation reaches 62 million population it grows randomly, somewhere between 5-7 million a day.

You appear very misinformed.

Thanks for stating this, I was looking for this info because I have some friends who grew more rapidly than me even though we started the same day. Maybe RNG got them to 62 mil first

If you and your friends all joined the same day, you should have all reached 62 million on the same day. It's only after that that there's any randomness in how your population grows.
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Postby Comfed » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:04 am

What can you all tell me about the Lazarene Civil War?

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Postby Unibot III » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:56 am

Was just listening to an old playlist and it just occurred to me that the UDL was probably inspired by the Ocean Colour Scene song, "Robin Hood" which was re-released in Spring 2011. I was obsessed with Moseley Shoals and listened to it a lot when I was forming the UDL.

I thought this was cool! Made me smile! I've never made the connection before. Maybe I ripped it shamelessly and forgot!

Comfed wrote:What can you all tell me about the Lazarene Civil War?


This is a big question, there's a lot to unpack there. Essentially if refers to the overthrow of the Celestial Union in Lazarus by Funkadelia in 2017. There was a very definitive split between Funk, Lamb, and Evil Wolf (invaders) versus all of the residents that had been expelled by Funkadelia. Over the course of the summer of 2017, defender-aided forces tried desperately to take Lazarus back from the Undead Dominion / Khanate. Imkiville defected and created the new neutral successor state, LazCorp, that exists today.

Here is some background from The Rejected Times:

First, allow me to explain the name of this here article. In July 2017, Funkadelia began evicting supporters of the Celestial Union and established the Undead Dominion within the Game-Created Region of Lazarus, naming himself as their rightful monarch at the expense of the region and those who later went on to form the resistance with aid from the defender-aligned NationStates community. Funkadelia knew his vile plans and subsequent coup would prompt a negative response from defenders and had made allies with the goal of keeping power in mind, joining Lone Wolves United prior to the coup and ultimately becoming closest with Lone Wolves United at the expense of all other raiders who have come out of this debacle unrewarded. In response to the coup, the Rejected Realms' Delegate at the time, The Church of Satan, stated that, "Due to [Lone Wolves United's] direct involvement in the coup of our oldest allies [and former sister region], Lazarus, our embassy with Lone Wolves United has been officially closed and will not be re-established."

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After a lot of effort, Kazmr, and those who supported him, including Funkadelia and Harmoneia, managed to fight and expel the New Pacific Order, inclusive of Feux and Milograd, from the region. This started the Humane Republic era of Lazarus, where Lazarus would have a fully democratic system, with regular delegate elections, and a ban on the leaders of the New Lazarene Order from the region. It would remain a firm supporter of the Founderless Regions Alliance or FRA, and be deeply resented by Balder, and other regions, due to the prior participation and support of it's citizens in the People's Repubic of Lazarus. It would have strong relations with The South Pacific, The Rejected Realms, born out of a respect for the defender alignment and mutual respect built both during the People's Republic of Lazarus and throughout the Humane Republic.

But this state of affairs would short-lived, when the Humane Republic began to develop political factions opposed to each other, after a brief calm, where Lazarus would re-establish diplomatic relations with the New Pacific Order, and work towards ending the defacto cold-war with Balder. Though these rifts wouldn't really come to pass till the Celestial Union, which had developed two opposing factions, led by Funkadelia and Lamb on one side, and much of Lazarus on the other, with New Pacific Order citizens manipulating both factions. This was made possible by the open diplomacy and open political system of Lazarus, which allowed full democratic participation, with no controls on who could hold the delegacy. It also had major flaws in security, which would include allowing infiltrators to reach the highest level of Lazarene government.

Lazarus would go through the Undead Dominion, and the Kharnate, before Imkiville with support of GCR regions, took Lazarus and established a constitutional convention with their support. Those successor states of Lazarus would receive differing levels of recognition, with Balder supporting somewhat the earlier, but both having a hostile relationship with both The Rejected Realms and The South Pacific, which would make it harder for the current administration to establish relations with them.

After the collapse of the constitutional convention, both The South Pacific and The Rejected Realms, have followed a policy of wait and see with Lazarus. Lazarus is after all not as democratically open as the Humane Republic was, nor does it have an open defender stance, or a treaty with either region. Though it is possible that relations may smooth over time, due to open participation of citizens of both regions within Lazarus, and over how the administration develops their political system.

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:38 pm

Don’t forget that Curious Observations was right.

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It’s interesting background to how the whole affair started.

Edit: Some more resources

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:23 pm

In other news, I’d think I’d like to attempt to compile a list of all known GCR Delegates (In the six ancient GCRs). Does anyone have any knows or happen to know any enlightening resources on the topic? Besides the Wayback Archive and various things I have in TRR.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:30 pm

Fauxia wrote:In other news, I’d think I’d like to attempt to compile a list of all known GCR Delegates (In the six ancient GCRs). Does anyone have any knows or happen to know any enlightening resources on the topic? Besides the Wayback Archive and various things I have in TRR.

There's a few compilations hanging around in this very thread, should be able to find them with a decent thread search

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Postby Fauxia » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:37 pm

Also - was there a blip in Francos Spain’s delegacy?

The nation does not seem to have been Delegate on October 1, 2003.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:13 pm

Fauxia wrote:Also - was there a blip in Francos Spain’s delegacy?

The nation does not seem to have been Delegate on October 1, 2003.

I forget the exact date off the top of my head, but there was a game glitch that cost a ton of delegates their seats for a day, including Francos. Said glitch is also the origin of the edict from Max to the mods that in the event of a game glitch unseating a delegate, mods are to consider it an act of God and not intervene. The mod team was still in our collective infancy at that point and we concluded that it would not be appropriate for the anti-Francos faction to basically win through a glitch so we'd stepped in.

And you can just imagine the screaming that one caused in the Moderation forum back then. Holy crap. Nobody walked away from that one happy: anti-Francos folks because we cost them their one really ideal perfect shot to topple him and even after the ruling from on high for mods to not intervene in future glitch related incidents, the big boss also didn't revert what we'd done; raiders because "LOOK AT THAT BIAS TOWARD FENDAS/NATIVES!!!11oneshift+one!"; mods because at the time most of us also would have preferred to see Francos toppled and for being screamed at for something where we had been truly flying blind and were trying to act in the fairest manner we could come up with for an unprecedented situation... bleah.

Come to think of it, October would line up. I had brushfire concerns in October 2003 around the same time that whole shitstorm went down so I was ridiculously short-fused from severe sleep deprivation. (Let's just say getting a grand total of maybe 7 hours of sleep over a very high-anxiety week due to said stress is NOT pretty.)
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Postby Flanderlion » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:32 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Fauxia wrote:Also - was there a blip in Francos Spain’s delegacy?

The nation does not seem to have been Delegate on October 1, 2003.

I forget the exact date off the top of my head, but there was a game glitch that cost a ton of delegates their seats for a day, including Francos. Said glitch is also the origin of the edict from Max to the mods that in the event of a game glitch unseating a delegate, mods are to consider it an act of God and not intervene. The mod team was still in our collective infancy at that point and we concluded that it would not be appropriate for the anti-Francos faction to basically win through a glitch so we'd stepped in.

And you can just imagine the screaming that one caused in the Moderation forum back then. Holy crap. Nobody walked away from that one happy: anti-Francos folks because we cost them their one really ideal perfect shot to topple him and even after the ruling from on high for mods to not intervene in future glitch related incidents, the big boss also didn't revert what we'd done; raiders because "LOOK AT THAT BIAS TOWARD FENDAS/NATIVES!!!11oneshift+one!"; mods because at the time most of us also would have preferred to see Francos toppled and for being screamed at for something where we had been truly flying blind and were trying to act in the fairest manner we could come up with for an unprecedented situation... bleah.

Come to think of it, October would line up. I had brushfire concerns in October 2003 around the same time that whole shitstorm went down so I was ridiculously short-fused from severe sleep deprivation. (Let's just say getting a grand total of maybe 7 hours of sleep over a very high-anxiety week due to said stress is NOT pretty.)

I can say that almost 17 years later, it was the right call to keep the NPO in power.

Out of curiosity, what was the first April Fools event? I've been here for the more recent ones, but when did the events start?
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:37 pm

Flanderlion wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:I forget the exact date off the top of my head, but there was a game glitch that cost a ton of delegates their seats for a day, including Francos. Said glitch is also the origin of the edict from Max to the mods that in the event of a game glitch unseating a delegate, mods are to consider it an act of God and not intervene. The mod team was still in our collective infancy at that point and we concluded that it would not be appropriate for the anti-Francos faction to basically win through a glitch so we'd stepped in.

And you can just imagine the screaming that one caused in the Moderation forum back then. Holy crap. Nobody walked away from that one happy: anti-Francos folks because we cost them their one really ideal perfect shot to topple him and even after the ruling from on high for mods to not intervene in future glitch related incidents, the big boss also didn't revert what we'd done; raiders because "LOOK AT THAT BIAS TOWARD FENDAS/NATIVES!!!11oneshift+one!"; mods because at the time most of us also would have preferred to see Francos toppled and for being screamed at for something where we had been truly flying blind and were trying to act in the fairest manner we could come up with for an unprecedented situation... bleah.

Come to think of it, October would line up. I had brushfire concerns in October 2003 around the same time that whole shitstorm went down so I was ridiculously short-fused from severe sleep deprivation. (Let's just say getting a grand total of maybe 7 hours of sleep over a very high-anxiety week due to said stress is NOT pretty.)

I can say that almost 17 years later, it was the right call to keep the NPO in power.

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:58 am

Fauxia wrote:Also - was there a blip in Francos Spain’s delegacy?

The nation does not seem to have been Delegate on October 1, 2003.


There were a few blips. Later that year he even left TP to attend a raid and put his second-in-command in charge temporarily (I strongly suspect - as others have - that he switched his WA so he could try to coup another GCR).

I believe Reploid may also be referring to an incident in October 27:

On October 27, 2003, a fire at the United Nations Headquarters removed Francos Spain's delegate powers for a 24-hour period, thereby permitting a liberation force led by Corinthe to enter the Pacific, but such liberation force failed to remove Francos Spain by two endorsements, largely due to a temporary Moderator ruling declaring such liberation force to be the exploitation of a glitch. Whereas this temporary Moderator ruling was subsequently overturned by [violet], but the portion of the aforementioned ruling providing for the recreation of the glitch was also overturned.


This prompted cries of hypocrisy since Francos himself had taken advantage of a server error to close his endorsement cap in August (and moderators ruled it was fair game). Then the admins reversed the ruling, permitting the liberation, but the initial ruling put a hold on operations.

The Oct 27 event was a massive crapfest and the closest anyone got to liberating The Pacific.

Honestly if the Oct 27 error happened again (Poor Balder hah), I have no idea what would be legal and what would not be. I’m not sure how today’s NS Moderation would rule. I recall a few years ago, McMasterdonia (then TNP’s Del) lost his endorsements in some kind of server error, and the game admin restored his endorsements through a cool process whereby his endorsements were restored one by one in live time.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 am

Unibot III wrote:Honestly if the Oct 27 error happened again (Poor Balder hah), I have no idea what would be legal and what would not be. I’m not sure how today’s NS Moderation would rule. I recall a few years ago, McMasterdonia (then TNP’s Del) lost his endorsements in some kind of server error, and the game admin restored his endorsements through a cool process whereby his endorsements were restored one by one in live time.

He got booted from the WA for being a WA multi, which was an error on the part of moderation rather than a generic server issue. See here.
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Postby Unibot III » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:41 am

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Unibot III wrote:Honestly if the Oct 27 error happened again (Poor Balder hah), I have no idea what would be legal and what would not be. I’m not sure how today’s NS Moderation would rule. I recall a few years ago, McMasterdonia (then TNP’s Del) lost his endorsements in some kind of server error, and the game admin restored his endorsements through a cool process whereby his endorsements were restored one by one in live time.

He got booted from the WA for being a WA multi, which was an error on the part of moderation rather than a generic server issue. See here.


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Postby Goobergunchia » Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:11 pm

Unibot III wrote:I believe Reploid may also be referring to an incident in October 27:

On October 27, 2003, a fire at the United Nations Headquarters removed Francos Spain's delegate powers for a 24-hour period, thereby permitting a liberation force led by Corinthe to enter the Pacific, but such liberation force failed to remove Francos Spain by two endorsements, largely due to a temporary Moderator ruling declaring such liberation force to be the exploitation of a glitch. Whereas this temporary Moderator ruling was subsequently overturned by [violet], but the portion of the aforementioned ruling providing for the recreation of the glitch was also overturned.


This prompted cries of hypocrisy since Francos himself had taken advantage of a server error to close his endorsement cap in August (and moderators ruled it was fair game). Then the admins reversed the ruling, permitting the liberation, but the initial ruling put a hold on operations.


Yeah, the news post that eventually ruled against Francos is still up.

I'm still kicking myself over this one, as I probably could have done a bit more to encourage some less-plugged-in nations to hop in and endorse Corinthe and given the narrow margin it would have made the difference. (The moderator ruling didn't come until pretty late at night Eastern Time, so a lot of people had moved in, endorsed, and then logged off without seeing either Neut's ruling that people needed to stop or the later admin ruling letting people back in. I know I didn't find out about either ruling until I logged in the next day to find Francos still in power.)

As for October 1, I don't remember but if the delegate wasn't either Francos, Poskrebyshev, or InfernoIce than I'm guessing it was some kind of data issue with the listing... although now that I think about it, there was also an incident where Francos accidentally got deleted and restored in a very short period of time. (I thought that was in August/September though? It's been a while.) [Edit: That was September 7th.]
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Postby Ananke II » Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:55 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:I'm still kicking myself over this one, as I probably could have done a bit more to encourage some less-plugged-in nations to hop in and endorse Corinthe and given the narrow margin it would have made the difference. (The moderator ruling didn't come until pretty late at night Eastern Time, so a lot of people had moved in, endorsed, and then logged off without seeing either Neut's ruling that people needed to stop or the later admin ruling letting people back in. I know I didn't find out about either ruling until I logged in the next day to find Francos still in power.)

It was the first time I participated in gameplay. In hindsight I should just have ignored the first ruling and stayed put in The Pacific, but Neutered Sputnik was kinda intimidating, so I moved out when he told everyone to leave on the RMB.

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:He got booted from the WA for being a WA multi, which was an error on the part of moderation rather than a generic server issue. See here.


Oh yes!! I forgot that! Thank you.

The poor moderation team had to add the endorsements back manually iirc. The incident also occurred to a raider point during a raid, as further detailed in that thread. Caused a minor stir, as defenders had moved in once the raider lead got ejected.
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Very interesting old forum posts. The port messed up formatting so it's a little more annoying to read. [v] wishing to see FS fall was a highlight, and posters back then seem to be fighting over very similar viewpoints.

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Flanderlion wrote:[...] Thanks LD for the April Fools answer. What was the 2005 one? News post doesn't say much: https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html

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Postby Daytime to Night » Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:15 am

Fauxia wrote:In other news, I’d think I’d like to attempt to compile a list of all known GCR Delegates (In the six ancient GCRs). Does anyone have any knows or happen to know any enlightening resources on the topic? Besides the Wayback Archive and various things I have in TRR.


Topid has already done this from NS History a long time ago but there are a lot missing if you wanted to help fill the blanks. I have tried to add additional info where I know it, but haven't brought this up to date for any regions except TSP (the data is all on the History tabs of each region for more recent changes).

A lot of this information is from Kringalia, Unibot, Minoa, Sydia etc

Topid wrote:I used NSHistoryto make this.

Note: The exact dates were inaccurate, if NationX became delegate on September 3, but NSHistory didn't save the information of the region until the 6th, the date appears on this list as the sixth. These are approximate days, so I left them off entirely, I just did months (But even then, the months could be off, because if a delegate lost the seat on the 30th it may not show the change till the 4th or so of the next month). Also, there may be delegates not on this list. I can think of at least three cases where a person was delegate for only a day or two and because NSHistory didn't save the information before they lost the delegacy they were left out. Finally, the information only goes back to mid-2003. Having said all of that, here are the list of delegate spans for each GCR, excluding Warzones and the two new sinkers:
Before becoming a feeder:
- Hitler the Great (May have been delegate of TEP after its creation, sometime between April 21-27 2003.)
- Reubenlucy (Routinely delegate, between April 21 - May 11 2003)
Unclear who was delegate of TEP on May 05 after the fall of the Iraq invasion - Reubenlucy is not delegate on May 05, but none of the other likely options are delegate on either May 05 or May 06.
- Heinekenbier (May 11 - May 12 2003) - also known as HC Eredivisie

As a GCR/feeder (15th May 2003):

Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
12th May 200331st May 2003Lotlanthanderamore
31st May 20037th June 20031 Infinite Loop
8th June 20038th June 2003PapalExhibitionism
8th June 2003May 200611 Infinite Loop
May 2006August 2008Gnidrah
April 2010September 2010Lady Edea
December 2008January 2009A Slanted Black Stripe
January 2009March 2010Todd McCloud
April 2010September 2010Lady Edea
October 2010April 2011South Allegheny
April 2011PresentTodd McCloud
1April 2, 2004: No delegate listed for TEP, Loop is listed as delegate again by the 5th


There were delegates before Mikestonia, but according to Sydia in 2004 these were lost to history so little chance of identifying them now.

Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??????Mikestonia
??????Cote De Tombolo
??? (became delegate by May 2003)May 2003Nastic
May 2003June 2003United Individuals
June 2003July 2003Zeropositive
June 2003July 2003Nastic
August 2003September 2003Treenudity
September 2003November 2003The Twoslit Experiment
December 2003December 2003Nastic 2
January 2004January 2004The Twoslit Experiment
January 2004January 2004Wilkshire
January 2004February 2004The Twoslit Experiment
February 2004April 2004Wilkshire
April 2004April 2004Blackshear
April 200417th June 2004Magicality
17th June 20044th July 2004Ups Rail
4th July 200428th July 2004Great Bight
28th July 200431st July 2004Better Times
31st July 2004September 2004Thel DRan
September 2004October 2004Sydia
October 2004May 2005Pixiedance
May 2005August 2005Stars of Sky
August 2006November 2006Flemingovia
November 2006February 2006Former English Colony
February 2006May 2006Hepzibah II
May 2006August 2006Former English Colony
August 2006August 2006Unterwasserseestaat
September 2006February 2007Great Bights Mum
February 2007February 2007Emperor Matthuis
February 2007August 2007Chodean Kal
August 2007October 2007Great Bights Mum
October 2007October 2007Emperor Matthuis
October 2007January 2008Great Bights Mum
January 2008May 2008Lewis and Clark
May 2008June 2008Great Bights Mum
June 2008October 2008Zemnaya Svoboda
October 2008February 2009The Tresville Element
February 2009September 2009Sydia
October 2009March 2010Durkadurkiranistan
March 2010July 2010New Kervoskia
July 2010July 2010Shoeless Joe
August 2010September 2010Ermarian
October 2010October 2010Durkadurkiranistan II
October 2010January 2011Flemingovia
January 2011March 2011Chodean Kal
March 2011September 2011Blackshear41
October 2011???Grosseschnauzer


Begining of ReignEnd of ReignName
At least by March 2003???Sudetenland
???May 2003InfernoIce
May21st May 2003-Ukraine-
21st May 2003June 2003Olongapo
June 2003July 2003Thedoc
July 2003August 2003The Savage Lands
August 2003August 2003Thedoc
August 2003August 2003The Savage Lands
August 200328th August 2003Thedoc
28th August 2003September 2003Francos Spain
September 2003October 2003Poskrebyshev
October 2003December 2003Francos Spain
December 2003January 2004Poskrebyshev
January 2004July 2004Francos Spain
July 2004August 2004Poskrebyshev
August 2004July 2005Unlimited
July 2005December 2005Mammothistan
January 2006March 2006Unlimited
March 2006June 2006Blackadder Goes Forth
June 2005October 2006Pierconium
October 2006May 2009Moo-Cows With Guns
May 2009???Krulltopia





Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
January 2003February 2003?Bong Load
??????Katland
??????New Ali
April 2003May 2003Killer Monkeys
May 2003May 2003New Ali
May 20032nd June 2003Killer Monkeys
2nd June 2003June 2003Goddessness
June 200318th June 2003The XYZ Affair
18th June 20037th July 2003The Fathoms Below
7th July 200314th July 2003Alpha C
14th July 200317th July 2003Garylandia
17th July 200319th July 2003Gatren
19th July 200331st October 2003LadyRebels
31st October 200323rd December 2003The Matt- Duck
23rd December 200321st July 2004LadyRebels
21st July 200420th February 2005The Shaft
20th February 20053rd March 2006Caer Rialis
3rd March 20069th April 2006Goddessness
9th April 20065th July 2006Caer Rialis
5th July 200631st December 2009Fudgetopia
1st January 201022nd May 2011Southern Bellz
22nd May 201124th May 2011Devonitians
24th May 201114th June 2011Southern Bellz
14th June 201128th August 2011Daynor
28th August 201113th December 2011South Pacific Belschaft
13th December 201125th December 2012Hileville
25th December 20123rd March 2013Milograd
3rd March 201314th April 2013Brutland and Norden
14th April 201330th April 2013Milograd
30th April 201327th June 2013Burtland and Norden
27th June 201326th August 2013Southern Bellz
26th August 201327th December 2013South Pacific Belschaft
27th December 201310th April 2014Escade
10th April 20141st December 2014Kringalia
1st December 20144th August 2015Tsunamy
4th August 20151st December 2015Feirmont
1st December 20159th February 2016Hileville
9th February 201627th July 2017Tsunamy
27th July 20174th February 2018Drugged Monkeys
4th February 20181st August 2018Erinor
1st August 201831st January2019Tsunamy
31st January 201927th August 2019Erinor
27th August 201931st August 2019Aumeltopia
31st August 201931st August 2019Erinor
31st August 201910th August 2020Aumeltopia
10th August 2020PresentAmerion



Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (at least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Commercial Affairs
May 2003May 2004Norion
May 2004December 2004Berhampore
January 2005January 2005Lake Lanier
January 2005May 2005Zetaone
May 2005October 2005Minineenee
November 2005September 2006Wickedly evil people
September 2006May 2007Shasoria
June 2007March 2008TAOs UN Nation
March 2008April 2008Lots of Ants
May 2008May 2008Wickedly evil people
May 2008October 2008Biteland
October 2008December 2008The Faeyas
January 2009April 2009Wickedly evil people
May 2009April 2010ROLHEATH
May 2010November 2010Darkesia
November 2010November 2010Wickedly evil people
December 2010September 2011Punk Reloaded
September 2011October 2011Wickedly evil people
October 2011???Enlightened Defenders


Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
May 2004July 2004Lies Incorporated
July 2004November 2004New Omnivaro
November 2004November 2004Vesoul
December 2004December 2004Lies Incorporated
December 2004March 2005Baribeau
March 2005March 2005Peaceloving Sex Fiends
March 2005July 2005Baribeau
July 2005October 2005Spectacor
October 2005October 2005British Special Boats
November 2005November 2005Killer Kitty
December 2005December 2005The Free Confederates
January 2006January 2006Iguodala
January 2006February 2006The Free Confederates
February 2006July 2006North Harmoneia
July 2006November 2006Killer Kitty
November 2006November 2006Elric of Melnibone
November 2006January 2007North Harmoneia
January 2007February 2008Dezzland
February 2008May 2008Northern-Chittowa
May 2008November 2008Harmoneia
November 2008November 2008Killer Kitty
November 2008November 2008Viceroy Victorious
December 2008January 2009Killer Kitty
January 2009May 2009Razril Island
May 2009June 2009Freesatania
June 2009September 2010Griffin Somerset
September 2010March 2011Harmoneia
March 2011???Drop Your Pants


Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (At least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Sagar
May 2003June 2003Gres
June 2003June 2003Mrnonchalant
June 2003October 2003Kandarin
October 2003October 2003Jennivier
October 2003August 20112Kandarin
August 2011November 2011Sedgistan
November 2011???Guy
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Somehow NSHistory missed every single time Kandy was removed for a couple days, giving him an uninterupted delegacy for eight years as far as NS History is concerned.

Also, this list doesn't take into account any nation passing, obviously.
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