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Postby Goobergunchia » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:46 pm

As this resolution is inconsistent with the World Assembly's commitment to freedom of religion, we respectfully urge a vote against. The Moderately Liberal Unitary Republic will not single out any religious holiday for the purposes of, ah, "bringing joy" regardless of any Security Council direction to that effect.

We are also curious as to why such directive to member nations excludes non-citizen residents of said states.

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Postby Picairn » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:47 pm

The Ambis wrote:I said I would, so here’s another Ambis Essay (TM) on this proposal

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Iu ... HcE5c/edit

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Samicana
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Postby Samicana » Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:32 pm

If this resolution does not pass, the delegation of the Arctic Confederation of Samicana would like to make it clear that it will exit the World Assembly and encourage all other moral nations to do the same.

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Postby Terra Magnifica Gloria » Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:35 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:As this resolution is inconsistent with the World Assembly's commitment to freedom of religion, we respectfully urge a vote against. The Moderately Liberal Unitary Republic will not single out any religious holiday for the purposes of, ah, "bringing joy" regardless of any Security Council direction to that effect.

We are also curious as to why such directive to member nations excludes non-citizen residents of said states.

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Postby Kunskil » Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:36 pm

Goobergunchia wrote:As this resolution is inconsistent with the World Assembly's commitment to freedom of religion, we respectfully urge a vote against. The Moderately Liberal Unitary Republic will not single out any religious holiday for the purposes of, ah, "bringing joy" regardless of any Security Council direction to that effect.

We are also curious as to why such directive to member nations excludes non-citizen residents of said states.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:19 am

November is a bit too early for singing the Christmas carols, don't ya think? :lol2:
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:51 am

Outer Sparta wrote:November is a bit too early for singing the Christmas carols, don't ya think? :lol2:

Well I mean, if the shopping malls are of any indication, this is appropriate. :P
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Postby Liberza » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:13 am

A MESSAGE FROM THE WORLD ASSEMBLY BRANCH OF THE LIBERZAN OUTSIDE-OF-ROLEPLAY DEPARTMENT

“The Liberzan Empire is, frankly, disgusted that the World Assembly bothered to put this on our plate, instead of anything remotely related to the NationStates community, such as the upcoming “Condemn Tinhampton” proposal. As many have said, this proposal is forcing a religious holiday, albeit one that Liberza celebrates, on nations that may not be religious, or at least Christian. Now, our main point is that this is simply worthless. It is not funny, clever, or helpful. And also, the lyrics are corny. Like, seriously? ‘No more fights over C and C, R and D and RNTs’? ‘More citizens to say cheese’?


After the passage of ‘Injunct Bozarkia’ we cannot possibly be surprised that the Security Council is voting in favor of this proposal. However, this means nothing—the sense-making community has already made its choice.”
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Zetronis
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Postby Zetronis » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:35 am

Personally methinks it's absolutely ridiculous. Not only do I hate Mariah Carey with a passion, but that song makes me want to bang my head to a wall and cry into my pillow. I'm voting against it. And what point do you think this will make? Make everyone enjoy making the Christmas tree? Ha. Pathetic.
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Postby Tranquilizer-o7 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:44 am

The Ambis wrote:Absolutely brilliant. Here is my pledge:
If this passes, I will sing it. And I can actually sing, so it won’t be some rando screeching out lyrics. Unless you want that ;)


I'd be willing to sing as well, already practiced beforehand, and thus I vote for :p
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Vershkosik
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Postby Vershkosik » Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:39 am

Ok this is a close match this needs to get passed its very important for “security purposes” :p

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Zetronis
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Postby Zetronis » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:25 am

Can we take a minute to realise how absolutely drool-mouthed and go-be-stupid society is? Like the dumbness of society is so sheerly blunt and the sharper one's of us just sink back into the blunt, because that's what everyone wants you to do. Screw society.
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Croxoco
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Point of Order

Postby Croxoco » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:42 am

Forgive me, but is this resolution not illegal on the following grounds?:

1. It refers to a real life holiday/religious observance, whereas any ingame references to a similar holiday typically refer to "Maxxmas", not "Christmas".

2. I'm aware Max Barry, nearly 20 years ago, received a cease and desist order from the United Nations in response to his using of the name, "United Nations" for what was eventually renamed the "World Assembly". Given previous brushes with Copyright Law concerning the World Assembly, I question the wisdom of adoping, or even bringing to a vote, the current resolution, given that Mariah Carey's artistic work has been used (albeit re-worded to better suit NationStates) without any attribution to her, and presumebly without her knowledge or permission.

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Postby Improper Classifications » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:57 am

Croxoco wrote:Snipped.

While I'm not knowledgeable enough to provide information on the first item, Ambassador, as I recall copyright law permits people to create parodies of songs without running into legal trouble by default. If parody was illegal, after all, I would not be receiving eighteen thousand YouTube recommendations for her song with various effects added, like every other beat removed or some such.
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Postby The Ambis » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:38 am

Picairn wrote:
The Ambis wrote:I said I would, so here’s another Ambis Essay (TM) on this proposal

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15Iu ... HcE5c/edit

"Sed G. Istan" I died :rofl:

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Postby Verdant Haven » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:46 am

Goobergunchia wrote:As this resolution is inconsistent with the World Assembly's commitment to freedom of religion, we respectfully urge a vote against. The Moderately Liberal Unitary Republic will not single out any religious holiday for the purposes of, ah, "bringing joy" regardless of any Security Council direction to that effect.

We are also curious as to why such directive to member nations excludes non-citizen residents of said states.

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Goobergunchian WA Ambassador


"This, in particular, rubs me the wrong way as well. The WA has no business endorsing religious holidays over non-religious holidays, nor one specific religion and its observances over any other given religion. This is not an acceptable use of WA, nor SC, delegate time and resources."

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Eternal Algerstonia
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:51 am

NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER. NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER! NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER!

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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:03 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER. NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER! NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER!

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Novi Slavia
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No No No

Postby Novi Slavia » Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:38 am

We still have a month left.

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Postby Boilanzandia » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:04 am

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Zetronis
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Postby Zetronis » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:12 am

Boilanzandia wrote:FULL SUPPORT

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Postby Socialistic Britain » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:13 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER. NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER! NO CHRISTMAS CAROLS UNTIL DECEMBER!

we can't stop it

each year Christmas is gonna creep closer and closer into the months behind it.. eventually it's gonna be Christmas all year round :(
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Postby Castelia » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:40 am

I've been hearing this song since September, and I hear it every year.

And now it's followed me here.

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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:55 am

I have voted against this proposal.
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Postby Boilanzandia » Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:43 am

Zetronis wrote:
Boilanzandia wrote:FULL SUPPORT

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