[DEAFEATED] Repeal "Condemn the Pacific" (by DrWinner)

[Luxdonia]

Against. The Pacific rightly deserve their condemnation.

[The Church of Satan]

Thank you for pointing that out. I hadn't realized. But does it invalidate the rest of my statement? I had nothing to do with what happened in the past. If something happens again, you can condemn anew knowing that everyone was involved. But i don;t believe you should vote against the repeal. Once again, thank you.

You forget that The NPO, the governing body of The Pacific, has historically had direct involvement in 3 GCR coups. By virtue of that, this repeal is in no way deserved.

[Myrth]

Thank you for pointing that out. I hadn't realized. But does it invalidate the rest of my statement? I had nothing to do with what happened in the past. If something happens again, you can condemn anew knowing that everyone was involved. But i don;t believe you should vote against the repeal. Once again, thank you.

You forget that The NPO, the governing body of The Pacific, has historically had direct involvement in 3 GCR coups. By virtue of that, this repeal is in no way deserved.

I'd say we deserve a commendation for casting light on how poorly governed those GCRs were.

[The Church of Satan]

If that attitude is prevalent within The Pacific then it only proves this repeal should fail.

[RiderSyl]

I don't think that proof was needed. This thing has been on the way to failing for a long while.

[Pergamon]

If that attitude is prevalent within The Pacific then it only proves this repeal should fail.

Noone can deny some factual errors within the original proposal. THIS alone should be reason enough to repeal it.

Edit: Plus SilverSentinel is Deleted - he was the original author of this condemnation. If I were you, I wouldn't wish to upkeep the proposal of a deleted member of the community.

[Cormactopia II]

If that attitude is prevalent within The Pacific then it only proves this repeal should fail.

Noone can deny some factual errors within the original proposal. THIS alone should be reason enough to repeal it.

Indeed, the prevailing view in the World Assembly has been that flawed resolutions such as this should at the very least be repealed and replaced. I'm not advocating replacement of this condemnation, but even proponents of condemnation should be in favor of repealing this condemnation and replacing it with a more factual condemnation that might be more durable.

I suspect fear of being unable to pass a replacement condemnation is driving some to overlook the flaws in this condemnation. As long as The Pacific remains condemned, who cares if the resolution is accurate, right?

[Flanderlion]

If that attitude is prevalent within The Pacific then it only proves this repeal should fail.

Noone can deny some factual errors within the original proposal. THIS alone should be reason enough to repeal it.

Edit: Plus SilverSentinel is Deleted - he was the original author of this condemnation. If I were you, I wouldn't wish to upkeep the proposal of a deleted member of the community.

Silver Sentinel is DOS now rather than DEATed. But the debate isn't on whether the repeal will or won't pass now, that boat has long sailed. It's now on where we go from here. We tried to make amends, opening our hand in friendship to the world. Certain regions plastered on their fake smiles, and preached friendship to our faces while muttering fake lies to one another, and rubbed glass into our outstretched palms. Either we could continue to try to appease those who only wish to spit in our faces, or we could choose another path.

[Dorsendo]

A founder nation shouldn`t be condemned.The Pacific doesn`t deserve this

[Arpak]

Fellow WA ambassadors,

It is the Arpakian People's greatest pride and honor to vote AGAINST this repeal. Their condemnation is rightly reserved, as the NPO is the greatest oppressor of nations in the WORLD, the greatest representative of imperialism and the greatest threat to nations' sovereignty WORLDWIDE!!! Having liberated our glorious nation from their arrogant, COLONIALIST rule, Arpak now stands tall, with a strong military staunchly defending its borders but the Arpakian People cannot help but think about the thousands of Pacific protectorates and colonies and their people subjugated by the dictatorial Pierconium and its allies, which fancy themselves as a new and vast Empire, enslaving working people and exploiting them for their own benefit, suppressing their culture and forcing their own rotten nationalist propaganda on them instead. As if that enormous mass of SLAVES wasn't enough for them, the leadership of the Pacific has continuously attempted to enslave other regions, to drain the blood and sweat of an even greater mass of Working People, either by planning out and performing coups or by poisoning their beliefs with imperialist propaganda, luring them into a "supposed capitalist utopia" which turns out to be nothing more but a NIGHTMARISH FASCIST TRAP.

It is the duty of all Free, Democratic and Independent nations of the world not only to vote against this repeal, but to support and makes sure this condemnation tarnishes the Pacific's reputation UNTIL the FASCIST LEADERSHIP of Pierconium and his allies such as Aleisyr and other imperialist states has been overthrown by the glorious rebellion of the free, working class people of the enslaved nations of the Pacific. The Patriotic Socialist Party of Arpak, staying true to its Socialist ideology, will continue to support IN ANY WAY it can ANY FORM of resistance and revolution AGAINST the NPO. We salute the revolutionaries working against the NPO's machinations, REFUSING to become an addition to their tragic circus of colonies and puppet states and working hard to BREAK the chains of IMPERIALIST TYRANNY! We want them to know, the Arpakian People are on their side, they are their COMRADES and BROTHERS IN ARMS in the War against Imperialism, and will not rest until the Pacific is a vast region of free, sovereign states true to the values of Independence, Democracy and Social Justice.We also salute Lazarus and every region defying, defending and liberating themselves from the NPO's oppressive rule.

On behalf of the Party , I have to inform the NPO that the Party won't rest until every last one of those imperialist DESPOTS have fallen from power in the Pacific, passing the rule to its rightful owners, the masses of the Workers of the Pacific Nations. NPO, Pierconium, Aleisyr, know that the Proletarians of the World have raised their fists in defiance of your corrupt, arrogant and oligarchic leadership. They will not allow the repeal of this condemnation until you step down from power. Until then, it will remain there, marking you forever, leaving an indelible stain of the blood you've spilled within and outside of your region.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

[Pierconium]

Good luck with that.

[Arpak]

Good luck with that.

Empires rise and fall, Pierconium...your turn will come as well...and we think that's not that far from now...

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Good luck with that.

Empires rise and fall, Pierconium...your turn will come as well...and we think that's not that far from now...

People have been predicting that for all of the 12+ years I've been playing this game.

Sorry to see this repeal failing.

[DrWinner]

Fellow WA ambassadors,

It is the Arpakian People's greatest pride and honor to vote AGAINST this repeal. Their condemnation is rightly reserved, as the NPO is the greatest oppressor of nations in the WORLD, the greatest representative of imperialism and the greatest threat to nations' sovereignty WORLDWIDE!!! Having liberated our glorious nation from their arrogant, COLONIALIST rule, Arpak now stands tall, with a strong military staunchly defending its borders but the Arpakian People cannot help but think about the thousands of Pacific protectorates and colonies and their people subjugated by the dictatorial Pierconium and its allies, which fancy themselves as a new and vast Empire, enslaving working people and exploiting them for their own benefit, suppressing their culture and forcing their own rotten nationalist propaganda on them instead. As if that enormous mass of SLAVES wasn't enough for them, the leadership of the Pacific has continuously attempted to enslave other regions, to drain the blood and sweat of an even greater mass of Working People, either by planning out and performing coups or by poisoning their beliefs with imperialist propaganda, luring them into a "supposed capitalist utopia" which turns out to be nothing more but a NIGHTMARISH FASCIST TRAP.

It is the duty of all Free, Democratic and Independent nations of the world not only to vote against this repeal, but to support and makes sure this condemnation tarnishes the Pacific's reputation UNTIL the FASCIST LEADERSHIP of Pierconium and his allies such as Aleisyr and other imperialist states has been overthrown by the glorious rebellion of the free, working class people of the enslaved nations of the Pacific. The Patriotic Socialist Party of Arpak, staying true to its Socialist ideology, will continue to support IN ANY WAY it can ANY FORM of resistance and revolution AGAINST the NPO. We salute the revolutionaries working against the NPO's machinations, REFUSING to become an addition to their tragic circus of colonies and puppet states and working hard to BREAK the chains of IMPERIALIST TYRANNY! We want them to know, the Arpakian People are on their side, they are their COMRADES and BROTHERS IN ARMS in the War against Imperialism, and will not rest until the Pacific is a vast region of free, sovereign states true to the values of Independence, Democracy and Social Justice.We also salute Lazarus and every region defying, defending and liberating themselves from the NPO's oppressive rule.

On behalf of the Party , I have to inform the NPO that the Party won't rest until every last one of those imperialist DESPOTS have fallen from power in the Pacific, passing the rule to its rightful owners, the masses of the Workers of the Pacific Nations. NPO, Pierconium, Aleisyr, know that the Proletarians of the World have raised their fists in defiance of your corrupt, arrogant and oligarchic leadership. They will not allow the repeal of this condemnation until you step down from power. Until then, it will remain there, marking you forever, leaving an indelible stain of the blood you've spilled within and outside of your region.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Two things:

1. I'm a slave? That is indeed news to me, good sir.
2. Fine. Let us keep our badge of honor. After all, it's a great force for national unity. Every time we discuss it on the RMB, people flock in droves to endorse Pierconium and become more lasting members of our community in the Pacific. Honestly, if you wanted Pier gone, removing this badge should be your first step, as all it is doing is uniting the nations of the Pacific against those nations who are truly belligerent imperialists..

[Kaboomlandia]

Well, seems like this repeal, vote-wise, is looking much the same as the first try. Guess Cormac not being on it didn't sway that many people to change their vote...

[DrWinner]

Well, seems like this repeal, vote-wise, is looking much the same as the first try. Guess Cormac not being on it didn't sway that many people to change their vote...

Hm, indeed. But at least the Pacific now knows who her enemies are, and who we can cut diplomatic ties with.

[Arpak]

Fellow WA ambassadors,

It is the Arpakian People's greatest pride and honor to vote AGAINST this repeal. Their condemnation is rightly reserved, as the NPO is the greatest oppressor of nations in the WORLD, the greatest representative of imperialism and the greatest threat to nations' sovereignty WORLDWIDE!!! Having liberated our glorious nation from their arrogant, COLONIALIST rule, Arpak now stands tall, with a strong military staunchly defending its borders but the Arpakian People cannot help but think about the thousands of Pacific protectorates and colonies and their people subjugated by the dictatorial Pierconium and its allies, which fancy themselves as a new and vast Empire, enslaving working people and exploiting them for their own benefit, suppressing their culture and forcing their own rotten nationalist propaganda on them instead. As if that enormous mass of SLAVES wasn't enough for them, the leadership of the Pacific has continuously attempted to enslave other regions, to drain the blood and sweat of an even greater mass of Working People, either by planning out and performing coups or by poisoning their beliefs with imperialist propaganda, luring them into a "supposed capitalist utopia" which turns out to be nothing more but a NIGHTMARISH FASCIST TRAP.

It is the duty of all Free, Democratic and Independent nations of the world not only to vote against this repeal, but to support and makes sure this condemnation tarnishes the Pacific's reputation UNTIL the FASCIST LEADERSHIP of Pierconium and his allies such as Aleisyr and other imperialist states has been overthrown by the glorious rebellion of the free, working class people of the enslaved nations of the Pacific. The Patriotic Socialist Party of Arpak, staying true to its Socialist ideology, will continue to support IN ANY WAY it can ANY FORM of resistance and revolution AGAINST the NPO. We salute the revolutionaries working against the NPO's machinations, REFUSING to become an addition to their tragic circus of colonies and puppet states and working hard to BREAK the chains of IMPERIALIST TYRANNY! We want them to know, the Arpakian People are on their side, they are their COMRADES and BROTHERS IN ARMS in the War against Imperialism, and will not rest until the Pacific is a vast region of free, sovereign states true to the values of Independence, Democracy and Social Justice.We also salute Lazarus and every region defying, defending and liberating themselves from the NPO's oppressive rule.

On behalf of the Party , I have to inform the NPO that the Party won't rest until every last one of those imperialist DESPOTS have fallen from power in the Pacific, passing the rule to its rightful owners, the masses of the Workers of the Pacific Nations. NPO, Pierconium, Aleisyr, know that the Proletarians of the World have raised their fists in defiance of your corrupt, arrogant and oligarchic leadership. They will not allow the repeal of this condemnation until you step down from power. Until then, it will remain there, marking you forever, leaving an indelible stain of the blood you've spilled within and outside of your region.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Two things:

1. I'm a slave? That is indeed news to me, good sir.
2. Fine. Let us keep our badge of honor. After all, it's a great force for national unity. Every time we discuss it on the RMB, people flock in droves to endorse Pierconium and become more lasting members of our community in the Pacific. Honestly, if you wanted Pier gone, removing this badge should be your first step, as all it is doing is uniting the nations of the Pacific against those nations who are truly belligerent imperialists..

You're right. You're not a slave. You're an imperial propagandist that does nothing else but preach the sermon of Pierconium and his rotten New Pacific Order. In other words, you're not being exploited, you EXPLOIT other nations instead. You and your gang of Despotic Allies. No worries though,it won't be long until the working class tears your New Pacific Order into shreds, and the People of the Pacific Nations, the RIGHTFUL RULERS of the Region will rise up against the Emperor's rule and his lackeys, kicking you out of the region and right where you belong. Until then , the condemnation badge will serve as a warning to other honorable libertarian and democratic nations considering to join your corrupt region, in order for them to realize the fraud the NPO is.

And by the way, we're not surprised at all that the brainwashed populace of the Pacific supports Pierconium so enthusiastically...poor people...led astray by your silver tongue. We admit, the Empire's ministry of Propaganda is definitely something... Cormac failed, so they choose someone more green-collar than him to submit the proposal...too bad the Democratic People of the World are way smarter than that.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Can I recommend that you take a chill pill? You're going to burst a blood vessel or two if you carry on like that.

No need to shout either, none of us are deaf.

[Karenus]

Two things:

1. I'm a slave? That is indeed news to me, good sir.
2. Fine. Let us keep our badge of honor. After all, it's a great force for national unity. Every time we discuss it on the RMB, people flock in droves to endorse Pierconium and become more lasting members of our community in the Pacific. Honestly, if you wanted Pier gone, removing this badge should be your first step, as all it is doing is uniting the nations of the Pacific against those nations who are truly belligerent imperialists..

You're right. You're not a slave. You're an imperial propagandist that does nothing else but preach the sermon of Pierconium and his rotten New Pacific Order. In other words, you're not being exploited, you EXPLOIT other nations instead. You and your gang of Despotic Allies. No worries though,it won't be long until the working class tears your New Pacific Order into shreds, and the People of the Pacific Nations, the RIGHTFUL RULERS of the Region will rise up against the Emperor's rule and his lackeys, kicking you out of the region and right where you belong. Until then , the condemnation badge will serve as a warning to other honorable libertarian and democratic nations considering to join your corrupt region, in order for them to realize the fraud the NPO is.

And by the way, we're not surprised at all that the brainwashed populace of the Pacific supports Pierconium so enthusiastically...poor people...led astray by your silver tongue. We admit, the Empire's ministry of Propaganda is definitely something... Cormac failed, so they choose someone more green-collar than him to submit the proposal...too bad the Democratic People of the World are way smarter than that.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Wow...I'm honestly surprised by the sheer ignorance of this post. I was once a newb in TP. I decided to stick with them because why not. In a matter of a month I was helping out because the community is amazing. No one is obliged to do anything there, but everyone can enjoy themselves. Exploitation? Propaganda? I wonder who's really brainwashed here. Have you ever taken at least two minutes to observe The Pacific's RMB? How about the offsite forums? Have you tried our Skype group? Who are you to make such preposterous accusations? As the Quaestor of The Pacific I am honestly offended by your baseless spouting and will mark your name on my book, for future reference. Thank you.

[DrWinner]

Two things:

1. I'm a slave? That is indeed news to me, good sir.
2. Fine. Let us keep our badge of honor. After all, it's a great force for national unity. Every time we discuss it on the RMB, people flock in droves to endorse Pierconium and become more lasting members of our community in the Pacific. Honestly, if you wanted Pier gone, removing this badge should be your first step, as all it is doing is uniting the nations of the Pacific against those nations who are truly belligerent imperialists..

You're right. You're not a slave. You're an imperial propagandist that does nothing else but preach the sermon of Pierconium and his rotten New Pacific Order. In other words, you're not being exploited, you EXPLOIT other nations instead. You and your gang of Despotic Allies. No worries though,it won't be long until the working class tears your New Pacific Order into shreds, and the People of the Pacific Nations, the RIGHTFUL RULERS of the Region will rise up against the Emperor's rule and his lackeys, kicking you out of the region and right where you belong. Until then , the condemnation badge will serve as a warning to other honorable libertarian and democratic nations considering to join your corrupt region, in order for them to realize the fraud the NPO is.

And by the way, we're not surprised at all that the brainwashed populace of the Pacific supports Pierconium so enthusiastically...poor people...led astray by your silver tongue. We admit, the Empire's ministry of Propaganda is definitely something... Cormac failed, so they choose someone more green-collar than him to submit the proposal...too bad the Democratic People of the World are way smarter than that.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Again, I have but two things to question.

1) I'm an "imperial propagandist" you say. Interesting, considering I hold no power within the Pacific, and am a mere citizen, one of those honorable libertarian nations, actually. Or, more accurately, as someone else pointed out to me this morning, a socialist like yourself. You don't see me preaching about the 'horrors' of living here, blardy blardy, do you? That's because these horrors you imagine don't exist.

2) You say the condemnation is driving people away? I say you're wrong on that. Since we've had these repeal proposals en vote, recruitment is way up, and Pierconium is just getting stronger. But wait, let me guess, these are all corrupt members of the Pacific returning home or something, right? No way these are people attracted by the stability and prosperity brought about by the NPO, oh no!

[Funkadelia]

Just because a public apology was made does not excuse the horrible things they did. That's incredibly weak, especially where the Lazarus-related parts are the entire crux of the original resolution.

[DrWinner]

Just because a public apology was made does not excuse the horrible things they did. That's incredibly weak, especially where the Lazarus-related parts are the entire crux of the original resolution.

I invite you, sir, to look at the previous iteration of this thread, and see the counters to your statement, as I will not go find them for you.

[Arpak]

You're right. You're not a slave. You're an imperial propagandist that does nothing else but preach the sermon of Pierconium and his rotten New Pacific Order. In other words, you're not being exploited, you EXPLOIT other nations instead. You and your gang of Despotic Allies. No worries though,it won't be long until the working class tears your New Pacific Order into shreds, and the People of the Pacific Nations, the RIGHTFUL RULERS of the Region will rise up against the Emperor's rule and his lackeys, kicking you out of the region and right where you belong. Until then , the condemnation badge will serve as a warning to other honorable libertarian and democratic nations considering to join your corrupt region, in order for them to realize the fraud the NPO is.

And by the way, we're not surprised at all that the brainwashed populace of the Pacific supports Pierconium so enthusiastically...poor people...led astray by your silver tongue. We admit, the Empire's ministry of Propaganda is definitely something... Cormac failed, so they choose someone more green-collar than him to submit the proposal...too bad the Democratic People of the World are way smarter than that.

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Again, I have but two things to question.

1) I'm an "imperial propagandist" you say. Interesting, considering I hold no power within the Pacific, and am a mere citizen, one of those honorable libertarian nations, actually. Or, more accurately, as someone else pointed out to me this morning, a socialist like yourself. You don't see me preaching about the 'horrors' of living here, blardy blardy, do you? That's because these horrors you imagine don't exist.

2) You say the condemnation is driving people away? I say you're wrong on that. Since we've had these repeal proposals en vote, recruitment is way up, and Pierconium is just getting stronger. But wait, let me guess, these are all corrupt members of the Pacific returning home or something, right? No way these are people attracted by the stability and prosperity brought about by the NPO, oh no!

*Ambassador Dortman stands up obviously infuriated and red with anger*

Don't you even DARE TARNISH the name of Socialism by associating it with IMPERIALIST PUPPETS SUCH AS YOUR NATION!!! No true Socialist answers to an EMPEROR, an ABSOLUTE MONARCH!! If you truly had the faintest idea about Socialism you would know that.

*calms down and clears his throat*
Of course you're a newbie in the Pacific, no better agent to disemminate NPO propaganda than the nation with a clean slate in the WA. That's why i referred to your nation as a green collar previously. The RMB??? Ha!!! Don't make me laugh, our Ministry of State Security has been watching over your region for some time now, regional forum, RMB and all. The Pacific was the first region to be added to our Ministry's dossier, as it is a region we have great interest in, since we believe that the NPO's leadership poses a great threat to our nation and the Confederacy we belong to. Your region has the rightfully earned reputation of a Grand raider region staging coups in numerous other regions, after all. Indeed, the RMB seems as innocent as it can be, and of course it does so, as if there was a way Pierconium and his puppet lackeys would post their dirt in there. All great propaganda in all, which is why even more nations keep flooding the Pacific, as they are completely oblivious of all the closed-doors dealings and schemes as well as the top secret raiding plans. It is quite obvious that all the imperialist schemes and plans would be discussed BETWEEN PIERCONIUM AND TRUSTED MEMBERS via TELEGRAMS, PMs or other, maybe even encrypted means of communication. The RMB and forum serve as the public face of the Pacific, which despite its operations of conquest against other regions and nations, insists on presenting itself as a peace loving, democratic region. It's a pity some of your *ehem* "not so bright* members, such as Myrth spoil it all and shed light on your region's TRUE SELF when they arrogantly say they should even receive a commendation by the WA for raiding and enslaving other "quote"-poorly governed- "end quote" regions. So spoke Myrth.

Fellow Dr.Winner Ambassador...we thought you were one of the NPO's lackeys and still believe you are one...but your last speech made me think of another possibility as well. Maybe you're not. Maybe your nation is just another nation misguided by Pierconium's silver tongue and long, epic speeches of sovereignty, prosperity and power. Maybe you were seduced by his promises of regional pride and domination, as well as democracy...blinded by the flashy forum and regional board, the opulence of banners and flags...these delusions of grandeur...and played right into the NPO's hands. In no time, you were turned into nothing more but a mindless protectorate, praising and hailing Pierconium, his supposed "virtues and wisdom" and praising The Pacific's New Order as one of "freedom, justice, equality and democracy"...just like all these other young nations. Maybe you truly believe and are hypnotized by all this rubbish, maybe your nation hopes that if it spreads the NPO's propaganda enough and carries out its agenda will climb up the leadership ladder, slowly and steadily. If that's the case, we sympathize with your People and pity your nation and its leadership. We suggest to your government to wake up from this maddening dream and face the ugly truth...before it's too late for your People...

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

[Arpak]

Again, I have but two things to question.

1) I'm an "imperial propagandist" you say. Interesting, considering I hold no power within the Pacific, and am a mere citizen, one of those honorable libertarian nations, actually. Or, more accurately, as someone else pointed out to me this morning, a socialist like yourself. You don't see me preaching about the 'horrors' of living here, blardy blardy, do you? That's because these horrors you imagine don't exist.

2) You say the condemnation is driving people away? I say you're wrong on that. Since we've had these repeal proposals en vote, recruitment is way up, and Pierconium is just getting stronger. But wait, let me guess, these are all corrupt members of the Pacific returning home or something, right? No way these are people attracted by the stability and prosperity brought about by the NPO, oh no!

*Ambassador Dortman stands up obviously infuriated and red with anger*

Don't you even DARE TARNISH the name of Socialism by associating it with IMPERIALIST PUPPETS SUCH AS YOUR NATION!!! No true Socialist answers to an EMPEROR, an ABSOLUTE MONARCH!! If you truly had the faintest idea about Socialism you would know that.

*calms down and clears his throat*
Of course you're a newbie in the Pacific, no better agent to disemminate NPO propaganda than the nation with a clean slate in the WA. That's why i referred to your nation as a green collar previously. The RMB??? Ha!!! Don't make me laugh, our Ministry of State Security has been watching over your region for some time now, regional forum, RMB and all. The Pacific was the first region to be added to our Ministry's dossier, as it is a region we have great interest in, since we believe that the NPO's leadership poses a great threat to our nation and the Confederacy we belong to. Your region has the rightfully earned reputation of a Grand raider region staging coups in numerous other regions, after all. Indeed, the RMB seems as innocent as it can be, and of course it does so, as if there was a way Pierconium and his puppet lackeys would post their dirt in there. All great propaganda in all, which is why even more nations keep flooding the Pacific, as they are completely oblivious of all the closed-doors dealings and schemes as well as the top secret raiding plans. It is quite obvious that all the imperialist schemes and plans would be discussed BETWEEN PIERCONIUM AND TRUSTED MEMBERS via TELEGRAMS, PMs or other, maybe even encrypted means of communication. The RMB and forum serve as the public face of the Pacific, which despite its operations of conquest against other regions and nations, insists on presenting itself as a peace loving, democratic region. It's a pity some of your *ehem* "not so bright* members, such as Myrth spoil it all and shed light on your region's TRUE SELF when they arrogantly say they should even receive a commendation by the WA for raiding and enslaving other "quote"-poorly governed- "end quote" regions. So spoke Myrth.

Fellow Dr.Winner Ambassador...we thought you were one of the NPO's lackeys and still believe you are one...but your last speech made me think of another possibility as well. Maybe you're not. Maybe your nation is just another nation misguided by Pierconium's silver tongue and long, epic speeches of sovereignty, prosperity and power. Maybe you were seduced by his promises of regional pride and domination, as well as democracy...blinded by the flashy forum and regional board, the opulence of banners and flags...these delusions of grandeur...and played right into the NPO's hands. In no time, you were turned into nothing more but a mindless protectorate, praising and hailing Pierconium, his supposed "virtues and wisdom" and praising The Pacific's New Order as one of "freedom, justice, equality and democracy"...just like all these other young nations. Maybe you truly believe and are hypnotized by all this rubbish, maybe your nation hopes that if it spreads the NPO's propaganda enough and carries out its agenda will climb up the leadership ladder, slowly and steadily. If that's the case, we sympathize with your People and pity your nation and its leadership. We suggest to your government to wake up from this maddening dream and face the ugly truth...before it's too late for your People...

Sincerely,
WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People
Hans Dortman

Furthermore, socialists and other libertarians ARE NEVER EMPERORS, PRAETORS AND QUAESTORS. They answer to NO RULERS but to their pure Will, the Will of the People. Also, we never said the condemnation banner would stop nations from massively joining the Pacific, we merely said that we HOPE that it will warn them. Unfortunately, as we already said, Pierconium has his way with words and is fully versed in the arts of deception..

Sorry to burst your ears, fellow Bhang Bhang Duc Ambassador, we're really glad to see this repeal failing, unlike you we suppose...let me guess, you are a Pacific sympathizer aren't you?

And finally, "dear" Quaestor of the Pacific. You can write our name in whatever list you like. An acknowledgement that they are enemies of Despotic Rulers such as yourself and Pierconium, is a Medal of Honor and Pride to the Arpakian People.

WA Ambassador of the Arpakian People,
Hans Dortman

[Noveau-Nordicia]

Repeal