NATION

PASSWORD

[Draft] An Island is Born

A place to spoil daily issues for those who haven't had them yet, snigger at typos, and discuss ideas for new ones.
User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

[Draft] An Island is Born

Postby Fachumonn » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:02 pm

Description: Recent satellites have shown the formation of a new rocky, barren island outside of [@@NAME@@] waters. You sent your coast guard to go and claim the island, there’s just one problem. It’s inside Maxtopian territorial waters.

Option 1: A representative from Maxtopia shows up at your front door. “It’s ours! How dare you take such a sacred piece of land with such a um… storied past. Give the island to us, and I assure you there will be peaceful and swift proceedings. We don't want any trouble now, do we? If you rascals keep it… bad things may occur.”

Effect Line: land is given up for the purpose of furthering international relations

Option 2: An insane general of your navy, shows up and boots the representative of your lawn. “Non-shense!” he screams. “You may never take this from us! Set up a military base and claim all the territorial waters outside [@@NAME@@]. We discovered it first, and we will not relent! The Maxtopians will never get away! I will see to it! I didn't go to lunatic asylum for nothing!" he steams off, and hits the tree next to the sidewalk in your front yard.

Effect Line: negotiation proceedings involve a screaming military general

Option 3: As you are walking to your office for the day, a random man on the sidewalk confronts you. “Now now” he remarks. “I’m sure we can compromise. We could split the island in two! One half goes to [@@NAME@@], and the other half could go to Maxtopia. Sure, it might be a little awkward, but it will only improve our relations when we have each other side by side. In fact, I could see Maxtopia as being a very useful partner in the future! It’s the only way to agree here!” as you look back to respond to him, he’s already gone.

Effect Line: the border of the island is split by meaningless rocks

Option 4: As you are being escorted away in your limo, your security agent sparks up a conversation. “You know, I’ve been hearing about that island. Maybe you could put a hotel there and turn it in to a vacation destination. I know there ain’t plant life there yet, but there will be soon. Umm… relatively soon? This is a tough job, you know. We have to protect you from crazy people on the sidewalk and deranged military officials that storm your front door. We could really use a break."

Effect Line: vacationers are shocked to see their paradise is a completely barren rock
Last edited by Fachumonn on Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:14 am, edited 11 times in total.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Vive Salem
Attaché
 
Posts: 72
Founded: Jan 12, 2024
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Vive Salem » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:05 pm

Option 3 is what I'll take.
"I am Jeru-i mean,Vive Salem."
-Kingdom Of God.

Vive Salem is an oppressive/controlling nation,that has survived two global catastrophes during its timeline,and is now the only nation on Earth.You could call Vive Salem as a fallout nation.

I ain't a communist,so don't call me that.Oh,and don't say that my flag looks like a wifi symbol.

Class 0.7778 based on this viewtopic.php?f=23&t=453617.

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:13 am

Vive Salem wrote:Option 3 is what I'll take.


Thanks for replying :)

I appreciate your comment but I am more looking for feedback on the issue proposal at the moment.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:26 pm

Bump.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Arakhkhar
Minister
 
Posts: 3048
Founded: Jan 03, 2024
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Arakhkhar » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:28 pm

If I may make a suggestion, could there be a crazy general who suggests turning it into a naval base?
”In a civilized society, there are always people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded."
Imperial Principality of Arakhkhar
Founder of the International Security Directorate.


Wherever applicable, factbooks/dispatches take precedence over stats for RP.

User avatar
Varnash
Secretary
 
Posts: 35
Founded: Jan 26, 2024
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Varnash » Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:24 pm

key
green = things you should add
red = things you should remove
(blue) = comments


[quote="Fachumonn";p="41401014"][box]Description: Recent volcanic activity off the coast of [@@NATION@@] has formed a new island. Your coast guard has gone and claimed the island, but no formal decision has been made on what to do with it. In the wake of this being reported, avid environmentalists and tourists alike have swarmed your office, begging for you to listen to them.

Option 1: [@@RANDOMNAME@@], a famed [@@DEMONYM@@] environmental advocate, has breached your security and burst into your office. "You have to understand sir - wildlife have flocked to this island! You can't take away their precious home! Their habitat is already shrinking, especially here on the mainland. Do you want to shrink it even more, or provide a tropical oasis for this wildlife to thrive? The choice is pretty obvious to me." he yells, before being escorted away by the security guards that have finally tracked him down.

Effect: nobody is allowed onto the island, to protect the "rights" of all living things

Option 2: 'Nonsense!" exclaims your exacerbated Minister of Tourism. "This could become a tropical vacation paradise, don't you realize!" he remarks, seemingly in a dream-like state. "Just destroy a few trees, build a few roads - nothing major. We could even leave a little bit of it for the birds, and make a wildlife exhibit for the tourists! Soon, we could create a luxurious resort straight out of heaven! Imagine the money that would create for our great nation!" he exclaims, and then adds "aAhem, towards my salary that is."

Effect: an extra 10-figure sum is transported to your Minister of Tourism every month

Option 3: "Now now," remarks your grandma as you speak to her. "I'm sure we can compromise. One half of the island can be used for tourism purposes, and the other half we can leave alone for the trees and the birds and the whatever is on that rock anyway. A compromise always works honey." She tells you as she kisses your cheek. "If you brought this up, I'm sure everyone would agree with you!" as she proceeds to forget the next thing she was going to tell you.

Effect: tourists are shocked to see a massive dividing line in the middle of the island

Option 4: "Why don't you address something closer to home?" A disgruntled teenager on the sidewalk asks. "Like lowerin' the rent round' here. Heck, I can't even find myself a place to stay cause of these prices. Maybe you should actually help the people, and not some distant faraway island nobody cares nothin' bout. Besides, ain't there a volcano on that thing? Must be dangerous, man."

Effect: news outlets are shocked to hear... nothing


i don't really think you need option 4 cuz it's basically just the 'dismiss issue' button, but you can keep it if you want
Last edited by Varnash on Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-varnash

<3

User avatar
Umbratellus
Diplomat
 
Posts: 575
Founded: Aug 22, 2021
Tyranny by Majority

Postby Umbratellus » Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:24 am

A brand new volcanic island is going to be a barren rock for years and years after the fact; it takes several generations of pioneering species to make an area hospitable for "flocks of wildlife." In the immediate aftermath it's going to look a lot more like this:
Image

Not exactly a "tropical oasis." More or less, the entire microbiome has to be established from scratch before even lichens can start growing, followed successively by grasses and shrubs, then maybe in a few decades (more likely centuries) you would see trees start growing in large numbers - not a couple days after the fact. Animals don't tend to just arbitrarily "flock" to new islands either; there's a reason they tend to function as evolutionary/genetic bottlenecks, it's difficult to get there! Here's a pretty good idea of what the ecological development of a new volcanic island looks like: link. Note; it took two years before the first vegetation of any kind was found, and over 30 years before the first bushes showed up!
Last edited by Umbratellus on Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:36 am, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:39 pm

Umbratellus wrote:A brand new volcanic island is going to be a barren rock for years and years after the fact; it takes several generations of pioneering species to make an area hospitable for "flocks of wildlife." In the immediate aftermath it's going to look a lot more like this:

Not exactly a "tropical oasis." More or less, the entire microbiome has to be established from scratch before even lichens can start growing, followed successively by grasses and shrubs, then maybe in a few decades (more likely centuries) you would see trees start growing in large numbers - not a couple days after the fact. Animals don't tend to just arbitrarily "flock" to new islands either; there's a reason they tend to function as evolutionary/genetic bottlenecks, it's difficult to get there! Here's a pretty good idea of what the ecological development of a new volcanic island looks like: link. Note; it took two years before the first vegetation of any kind was found, and over 30 years before the first bushes showed up!


Maybe I could say it has just been discovered (although satellites make this weird)
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Khardsland
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jun 10, 2022
New York Times Democracy

Postby Khardsland » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:31 am

For comedic effect, I would suggest that you name this issue "It's An Island!" to make a parody of "It's A Boy!". Just a thought...
“When I feed the poor they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry they call me a communist” -Hélder Câmara
"We liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it" -Marshal Zhukov

Equality > Freedom
From the river to the shining sea, the natives shall be free!
My LeftValues Score

All NS Policies canon except AI Personhood, Affirmative Action, Metricism, Human Sacrifice and AI Planning
A Class 1.14 nation according to this index
Population: 371,508
No NS Stats are considered canon

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:30 am

This has been completely reworked into basically a new issue.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
West Barack and East Obama
Diplomat
 
Posts: 815
Founded: Apr 20, 2022
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby West Barack and East Obama » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:32 am

@@RANDOMNATION@@ is not a macro, you need to select a fixed NPC nation. Change Fachumonn and @@YOURNATION@@ to @@NAME@@.
Sonnel is the place.

7x Issues Author | Political Figures | Sports Stuff

██████████

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:12 pm

West Barack and East Obama wrote:@@RANDOMNATION@@ is not a macro, you need to select a fixed NPC nation. Change Fachumonn and @@YOURNATION@@ to @@NAME@@.

Thanks!
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Socialismia
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 153
Founded: Nov 19, 2023
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Socialismia » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:41 am

Option 1: A representative from Maxtopia shows up at your front door. “It’s ours! How dare you take such a sacred piece of land with such a um… storied past. Give the island to us, and I assure you there will be peaceful proceedings. Otherwise… bad things may occur.”

I know it's petty, but there's an extra (and probably accidental) quote.
*gasp* I have a signature now!

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:42 am

Socialismia wrote:
Option 1: A representative from Maxtopia shows up at your front door. “It’s ours! How dare you take such a sacred piece of land with such a um… storied past. Give the island to us, and I assure you there will be peaceful proceedings. Otherwise… bad things may occur.”

I know it's petty, but there's an extra (and probably accidental) quote.

Yes, It's incredible you found that.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:51 am

A bump is born.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:50 am

Another bump is born.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Bhadeshistan
Bureaucrat
 
Posts: 55
Founded: Feb 10, 2024
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Bhadeshistan » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:07 pm

Fachumonn wrote:Another bump is born.

Try putting a validity for which policies there.

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:04 am

Bhadeshistan wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Another bump is born.

Try putting a validity for which policies there.

Could you explain what you mean by this?
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Tinhampton
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13721
Founded: Oct 05, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:26 am

Fachumonn wrote:
Bhadeshistan wrote:Try putting a validity for which policies there.

Could you explain what you mean by this?

Bhadeshistan wants you to limit this issue to certain nations. Please be advised that you are not required to do this if you do not see the case for it: some issues can, and perhaps should, be delivered to all nations.
The Self-Administrative City of TINHAMPTON (pop. 329,537): Saffron Howard, Mayor (UCP); Alexander Smith, WA Delegate-Ambassador

Authorships & co-authorships: SC#250, SC#251, Issue #1115, SC#267, GA#484, GA#491, GA#533, GA#540, GA#549, SC#356, GA#559, GA#562, GA#567, GA#578, SC#374, GA#582, SC#375, GA#589, GA#590, SC#382, SC#385*, GA#597, GA#607, SC#415, GA#647, GA#656, GA#664, GA#671, GA#674, GA#675, GA#677, GA#680, Issue #1580, GA#682, GA#683, GA#684, GA#692, GA#693, GA#715
The rest of my CV: Cup of Harmony 73 champions; Philosopher-Queen of Sophia; *author of the most popular SC Res. ever; anti-NPO cabalist in good standing; 48yo Tory woman w/Asperger's; Cambridge graduate ~ currently reading Possession by A.S. Byatt

User avatar
Fachumonn
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1582
Founded: Apr 11, 2021
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Fachumonn » Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:44 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Could you explain what you mean by this?

Bhadeshistan wants you to limit this issue to certain nations. Please be advised that you are not required to do this if you do not see the case for it: some issues can, and perhaps should, be delivered to all nations.

I mean; an Island can be born anywhere? So I do not see a need to, personally.
GA Authorship Leaderboard | Guide to Campaigning | Other Resources

-11th Delegate of LSC. (May 31 2021-October 16 2022, June 9 2023-August 21 2023, November 1 2023-)

WA Ambassador: The People | Pronouns: He/Him/His| RL Ideology: Libertarian Socialism/Anarcho-Communism | GP Alignment: Independent |

User avatar
Khardsland
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1205
Founded: Jun 10, 2022
New York Times Democracy

Postby Khardsland » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:45 am

Fachumonn wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Bhadeshistan wants you to limit this issue to certain nations. Please be advised that you are not required to do this if you do not see the case for it: some issues can, and perhaps should, be delivered to all nations.

I mean; an Island can be born anywhere? So I do not see a need to, personally.

In the description, it says that the island was detected by @@name@@'s satellites. Nations without a space program shouldn't be able to see it then.
“When I feed the poor they call me a saint, but when I ask why the poor are hungry they call me a communist” -Hélder Câmara
"We liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it" -Marshal Zhukov

Equality > Freedom
From the river to the shining sea, the natives shall be free!
My LeftValues Score

All NS Policies canon except AI Personhood, Affirmative Action, Metricism, Human Sacrifice and AI Planning
A Class 1.14 nation according to this index
Population: 371,508
No NS Stats are considered canon

User avatar
Fauxia
Senator
 
Posts: 4858
Founded: Dec 22, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Fauxia » Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:05 pm

I'm not seeing how this issue is more than a blatant power grab by @@NAME@@, in which case it seems less interesting to me (as we have issues about colonialism, expansion, etc). In any case, although it may seem relatively minor, the description contains a player autonomy violation. The leader of a liberal, sensible nation like Fauxia would not lay claim to an island in someone else's territorial waters, and so regardless of whether the Coast Guard unilaterally went to go claim the island, @@LEADER@@ would not have ordered them to do so.

Come to think of it, that perhaps might make for a slightly more interesting issue—Coast Guard immediately went for the island because they thought it was of strategic interest for some reason, or it happens to be right where @@NAME@@'s territory meets Maxtopia's... something that makes it more than just "should we steal this island that rightfully belongs to Maxtopia?"
Reploid Productions wrote:Unfortunately, Max still won't buy the mods elite ninja assassin squads to use, so... no such luck.
Sandaoguo wrote:GP is a den of cynics and nihilists
My opinions do not represent any NS governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), any RL governments I may happen to be in (yeah right), the CIA, the NSA, the FBI. the Freemasons, the Illuminati, Opus Dei, the Knights Templar, the Organization for the Advancement of Cultural Marxism, Opus Dei, or any other organization. Unless I say they do, in which case, there is a nonzero chance.


Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Got Issues?

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bowmanium Commonwealth

Advertisement

Remove ads