Calexit: Could it Happen?

[New-California]

With brexit occurring last year many people have begun to talk about an independent California.
If California were independent it would have somewhere between the 6th and 9th largest economy in the world, it has more economic power than France. It's home to more people than Canada and multiple other countries. California also has many differences politically with the rest of the US states. So I'll leave it you to debate, should California become its own country?

[Please Understand]

I honestly think Texas has a better chance of breaking from 'Merica

[USS Monitor]

If the majority of Californians want independence, then they should be allowed to have it. If they want to stay in the Union, they should be allowed to stay.

[Yamakaze]

Should it? Yes.

Will it? No.

They seem more than content just to whine about the rest of the country.

[Please Understand]

With brexit occurring last year many people have begun to talk about an independent California.
If California were independent it would have somewhere between the 6th and 9th largest economy in the world, it has more economic power than France. It's home to more people than Canada and multiple other countries. California also has many differences politically with the rest of the US states. So I'll leave it you to debate, should California become its own country?

It would be SO INTERESTING seeing a United State become a country/uber territory

[Marydale]

No.

[Ifreann]

From what I understand, only a tiny proportion of Californians want to be independent, so I'm gonna go with "No".

[Cyrisnia]

We have this same stupid topic every few months with California, Texas, or some other state. The answer is always no.

[Oil exporting People]

If the majority of Californians want independence, then they should be allowed to have it. If they want to stay in the Union, they should be allowed to stay.

The majority of the South wanted independence, and held votes to that effect. You argued they were traitors literally just a few days ago. Doesn't this stance seem hypocritical of you?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Anyway, Callafornia should be part of Canada. You guys and BC would get along fine.

[Ifreann]

If the majority of Californians want independence, then they should be allowed to have it. If they want to stay in the Union, they should be allowed to stay.

The majority of the South wanted independence, and held votes to that effect. You argued they were traitors literally just a few days ago. Doesn't this stance seem hypocritical of you?

I don't see anything hypocritical about it.

[Valgora]

Legally, California can not leave the United States.

Another thing to look at is: could California support itself if it did become independent? If I remember correctly, it would need to receive less money from the US government than it sends to it (for every dollar it sends, how much does it get back; for example: $1 is sent and it gets back $1.50 from the federal government) to even think about being able support itself.

[Skjorvekenland]

As stated in the U.S. constitution, a state is legally unable to leave the union in order to preserve the union. While arguments can be made with the first 13 states of the union, all of the other U.S. states and other possesions are unable to leave the union.

Because of this, the other way to leave the U.S. is to engage in a violent revolution. This can be seen as wildly difficult, although not as difficult as Texas or a second confederacy, due to the U.S. being the strongest military power in the world as well as in all of history. However, with California holding 1 out of 10 citizens of the U.S. as well as multiple nuclear missiles, an argument can be made that any conflict between the United States and a rebelious California would be a violent and bloody one.

[Oil exporting People]

I don't see anything hypocritical about it.

"If it's me and mine, it's fine."

[Ifreann]

It's not really true that US states can't leave the Union. They can't just unilaterally secede, but they could, in theory, ask Congress to let them leave.

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I don't see anything hypocritical about it.

"If it's me and mine, it's fine."

[Thermodolia]

We have this same stupid topic every few months with California, Texas, or some other state. The answer is always no.

This. The Union is eternal. There is no way no how that California or Texas is leaving

[Skjorvekenland]

Legally, California can not leave the United States.

Another thing to look at is: could California support itself if it did become independent? If I remember correctly, it would need to receive less money from the US government than it sends to it (for every dollar it sends, how much does it get back; for example: $1 is sent and it gets back $1.50 from the federal government) to even think about being able support itself.

Kek. It's going to be all fine for an independent California until the water supply dries out.

[Mefpan]

Yes, they should. That way the annoying "but muh popular vote" crowd loses its leg to stand on, most likely.

But no, they won't leave. To the detriment of all involved.

[Barchadi]

Personally I think that any opponents of the federal government in California, including anyone wanting to secede form the U.S., should be imprisoned or "disappeared".

[Ifreann]

Legally, California can not leave the United States.

Another thing to look at is: could California support itself if it did become independent? If I remember correctly, it would need to receive less money from the US government than it sends to it (for every dollar it sends, how much does it get back; for example: $1 is sent and it gets back $1.50 from the federal government) to even think about being able support itself.

Kek. It's going to be all fine for an independent California until the water supply dries out.

Why would an independent California not be able to get water from the US, like it does now? Countries trade all the time.

[Please Understand]

We have this same stupid topic every few months with California, Texas, or some other state. The answer is always no.

[starts cracking up]

[Thermodolia]

Personally I think that any opponents of the federal government in California, including anyone wanting to secede form the U.S., should be imprisoned or "disappeared".

Fuck no. If you want that go live in North Korea

[Thermodolia]

Kek. It's going to be all fine for an independent California until the water supply dries out.

Why would an independent California not be able to get water from the US, like it does now? Countries trade all the time.

The US might not recognize California as a nation.

[Peoples Republic of the German States]

Kek. It's going to be all fine for an independent California until the water supply dries out.

Why would an independent California not be able to get water from the US, like it does now? Countries trade all the time.

It'd be a lot more expensive, for one, since its not part of the Union anymore. And it requires a LOT of water, as the recent drought has proven.

[New Acardia]

I say good riddance
Let them pay for there welfare state themselves
But if they did they would want to come back in to the United States with in a month .