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TURTLESHROOM II
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[Appeal] Signature Related complaint [Split]

Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:31 pm

Good afternoon.

I recently received a Telegram which I was unable to reply to due to an anonymous Moderator's sending.

It explained that my signature had failed to meet the eight-line limit and claimed that it was sixteen lines. It was not sixteen lines long. I wasn't counting, but there's no way I could have made it pass ten or eleven, which, while exceeding the policy, is hardly worth threatening to ban me from ever using a signature again and totally blanking my signature.

The normal policy for signature violations is that signatures in violation of the bylaws are edited by the Moderators for compliance, and that the user is alerted to their mistake and asked to keep watch next time. Last I checked, forbidding the user from having a signature and banning their ability to edit an existing signature is the epitome of overkill.

I get it that you guys really don't like me, but isn't something as petty as a signature being a line or two off something that should only be fixed by alerting the user or simply changing the signature instead of threatening overkill punishments?
I'd have gladly changed my signature if I was asked, and of course I accept the change that was made in the signature.

I ask that you understand that this was an innocent mistake and not some attempt to flaunt or violate the rules. Let it also be noted that my signature has been viewed by everyone on this Forum, including the Moderators, and it has not once been called to my attention that anything was wrong with my signature. I write to you to explain my position and mistakes.


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Postby Frisbeeteria » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:36 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:isn't something as petty as a signature being a line or two off something that should only be fixed by alerting the user or simply changing the signature instead of threatening overkill punishments?

As I'm sure you're aware, our patience is not unlimited, and warnings accumulate. I'll do two free edits, then a warning, then a sig edit ban. I figure if you ignore the first few warnings, your oversize sig is deliberate flouting of our sig rules.

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Let it also be noted that my signature has been viewed by everyone on this Forum, including the Moderators, and it has not once been called to my attention that anything was wrong with my signature.

I have sigs disabled and depend entirely on reports in the Sig Reporting thread. Once yours was reported, I acted. I don't know if you'd been using that sig for one day or one year. Doesn't matter. You got standard treatment.

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:I get it that you guys really don't like me

You get exactly the same treatment as any other player with a history of warnings and violations. Knock off the martyr crap. Nobody is gunning for you.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:47 pm

Having read the telegram in question, I'm not seeing any threats of overkill action, merely listing some of the common possible solutions should sig length become enough of a repeat issue and explaining precisely how your sig hit 16 lines. In addition, although we will try to preserve sig content when we need to trim oversized ones, there are occasions where this cannot be done due to running up on the 800 character limit, complex/messy BBCoding, or both. From the sounds of it, yours was trending toward the latter category owing to an assortment of [hr] tags, a [pre] tag, and a mess of extraneous or otherwise badly-formatted [align] tags.

Honestly, given the oversized sig instances noted are nearly a year apart, the odds are rather slim of sig-blocking actually being deployed. We don't even record overlong sigs as *** warning *** warnings unless there's demonstrable malice/intent going on. For instance, somebody with an 800 line sig, or somebody who gets their sig shortened and then immediately goes and makes a much longer one. That clearly isn't the case here.

As there was no actual warning, there really isn't anything to appeal, though hopefully the explanation helps clarify the matter.

... Also, ninja'd by my much blunter colleague there. :oops: Long story short, be mindful of your blank lines, BBCodes (especially [pre], [box], [hr], [align] and [spoiler] tags) and odds are you'll be fine. And when in doubt, you can always hit up the sig workshop thread for feedback and coding tweaks.
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Reason: Whoops, forgot the align tag in the list of "tags to be mindful of"
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