[DRAFT] Automatic Weapons Act [I redid it]

[Republic of Tacos]

Believing that civilians do need firearms to protect themselves, and that these firearms should be distributed in a responsible manner.

Defining an automatic weapon as a machine that can fire a Lethal Projectile, and go through automatic-cycling without help from a Human, Animal, or Another Machine, and continue firing until its Ammunition is depleted or the Trigger or Firing Button is released.

Noting that possession of such a device is acceptable when possessed by military personnel during war or peacetime.

Also noting that member states may take this law further into effect by banning ownership of an automatic weapon by civilians.

Encouraging member states that allow ownership of such weapons to enforce background checks before purchase of such weaponry.

Emphasizing that those who are about to purchase or receive an automatic weapon must go through a background check by the state.
a. Further Emphasizing that the age to apply for such a background check is eighteen.

Hereby

Criminalizes all un-licensed ownership of automatic weapons by civilians.

Ensures that member states background checks upon those who own or are purchasing such weapons.

Keeps automatic weapons in the hands of those who pass such background checks and receive licenses.

Thoughts?

[Calladan]

Calladan already has a blanket ban on all guns (from pistols through to RPGs) for any civilian, so this would really have no affect on us. (Or no effect - always get those two mixed up).

However I think there are fair to good odds you will find nations who think it is their citizens' divine right to carry whatever weapon they want and will not have The WA interfering with the said right. Whether that is a stick sharpened to a point or a tactical nuclear weapon launcher, they will want to defend their citizens' right to carry it and will very much oppose any attempt by The WA to strip them of that right.

So while I entirely agree with everything you wrote in this proposal, I suspect you might not get anywhere with it - sorry

[Republic of Tacos]

Calladan already has a blanket ban on all guns (from pistols through to RPGs) for any civilian, so this would really have no affect on us. (Or no effect - always get those two mixed up).

However I think there are fair to good odds you will find nations who think it is their citizens' divine right to carry whatever weapon they want and will not have The WA interfering with the said right. Whether that is a stick sharpened to a point or a tactical nuclear weapon launcher, they will want to defend their citizens' right to carry it and will very much oppose any attempt by The WA to strip them of that right.

So while I entirely agree with everything you wrote in this proposal, I suspect you might not get anywhere with it - sorry

Never to fear! We will get this through! We just need more support!

[Excidium Planetis]

Believing that no civilian needs an automatic weapon in their home or anywhere for that matter.

"I certainly don't believe that. You should try to fight off hostile alien life forms with anything less than an automatic weapon."

Defining an automatic weapon as a weapon that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"This is a terrible definition of automatic weapon."

Dismayed that possession of an automatic weapon by non-military personnel in all member states is not criminalized in member states already.

"You shouldn't be dismayed by that."

Ensures that member states buy back automatic weapons from those currently in possession.

"This would bankrupt our nation. Private corporations possess trillions of credits in automatic weapons."

[Republic of Tacos]

Believing that no civilian needs an automatic weapon in their home or anywhere for that matter.

"I certainly don't believe that. You should try to fight off hostile alien life forms with anything less than an automatic weapon."

Defining an automatic weapon as a weapon that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"This is a terrible definition of automatic weapon."

Dismayed that possession of an automatic weapon by non-military personnel in all member states is not criminalized in member states already.

"You shouldn't be dismayed by that."

Ensures that member states buy back automatic weapons from those currently in possession.

"This would bankrupt our nation. Private corporations possess trillions of credits in automatic weapons."

I'm sorry to here such a clash, however there is always a solution! A clause could be added in which government distributed automatic weapons would be allowed if war were to ever enter the country.

[The Traansval]

My nation relies on gun ownership for the common defense of our territory! Yes, we have a national military, but in situations of dire conditions the regular Boer (Name for my people) can be called up into our National Militia, The Boer Commandos Militia Corp. We can focus funds on training these Citizen Soldiers because we wouldn't have to pay for Arming them, they already carry Rifles and other fire arms.

I oppose any bill to ban or limit guns that is passed in the WA. That should be up to individual nations.

[Rahul Raghuraman]

The wonderful Liberal Utopia has banned all guns.

[Alicorn Princess Twilight Sparkle]

Defining an automatic weapon as a weapon that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"I'm a bit concerned about this definition. If I enchant an object with a Come to Life spell, does that make it an automatic weapon? How does this affect living weapons?" Twilight Sparkle asks. "Am I a weapon, if I can fire without work from an outside source?"

[Excidium Planetis]

I'm sorry to here such a clash, however there is always a solution! A clause could be added in which government distributed automatic weapons would be allowed if war were to ever enter the country.

"Such a provision does not help civilians during peacetime. Hostile life forms and pirates still attack even when we are not at war."

[Republic of Tacos]

My nation relies on gun ownership for the common defense of our territory! Yes, we have a national military, but in situations of dire conditions the regular Boer (Name for my people) can be called up into our National Militia, The Boer Commandos Militia Corp. We can focus funds on training these Citizen Soldiers because we wouldn't have to pay for Arming them, they already carry Rifles and other fire arms.

I oppose any bill to ban or limit guns that is passed in the WA. That should be up to individual nations.

I'm proposing a ban on unnecessary weaponry! Citizens will be able to carry firearms as always, just not overly-excessive ones.

I'm sorry to here such a clash, however there is always a solution! A clause could be added in which government distributed automatic weapons would be allowed if war were to ever enter the country.

"Such a provision does not help civilians during peacetime. Hostile life forms and pirates still attack even when we are not at war."

Sorry to hear! Now, is there any way to add such a provision to this resolution that could benefit you?

[Republic of Tacos]

Defining an automatic weapon as a weapon that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"I'm a bit concerned about this definition. If I enchant an object with a Come to Life spell, does that make it an automatic weapon? How does this affect living weapons?" Twilight Sparkle asks. "Am I a weapon, if I can fire without work from an outside source?"

Ugh. Well, would it be better if I changed such a provision to firearm?

[The Traansval]

My nation relies on gun ownership for the common defense of our territory! Yes, we have a national military, but in situations of dire conditions the regular Boer (Name for my people) can be called up into our National Militia, The Boer Commandos Militia Corp. We can focus funds on training these Citizen Soldiers because we wouldn't have to pay for Arming them, they already carry Rifles and other fire arms.

I oppose any bill to ban or limit guns that is passed in the WA. That should be up to individual nations.

I'm proposing a ban on unnecessary weaponry! Citizens will be able to carry firearms as always, just not overly-excessive ones.

"Such a provision does not help civilians during peacetime. Hostile life forms and pirates still attack even when we are not at war."

Sorry to hear! Now, is there any way to add such a provision to this resolution that could benefit you?

What exactly is a "Unnecessary" Weapon? You currently propose a ban on Automatic Weapons (Which, might i add, you've defined terribly) which would mean that men and women drafted into our National Militia would not have Automatic Weapons, which are a staple of Modern Armies.

The problem is, if a enemies army sets foot upon Traansval Territory, our Citizens become apart of our Army.

Policies on Banning Guns should be taken up by individual nationstates, not the WA...

[Republic of Tacos]

I'm proposing a ban on unnecessary weaponry! Citizens will be able to carry firearms as always, just not overly-excessive ones.

Sorry to hear! Now, is there any way to add such a provision to this resolution that could benefit you?

What exactly is a "Unnecessary" Weapon? You currently propose a ban on Automatic Weapons (Which, might i add, you've defined terribly) which would mean that men and women drafted into our National Militia would not have Automatic Weapons, which are a staple of Modern Armies.

The problem is, if a enemies army sets foot upon Traansval Territory, our Citizens become apart of our Army.

Policies on Banning Guns should be taken up by individual nationstates, not the WA...

Just a draft. If you have a better definition, please share it to better the resolution! Also, if the citizens are part of the military right? If so, citizens can carry automatic weapons as always!

[The Traansval]

What exactly is a "Unnecessary" Weapon? You currently propose a ban on Automatic Weapons (Which, might i add, you've defined terribly) which would mean that men and women drafted into our National Militia would not have Automatic Weapons, which are a staple of Modern Armies.

The problem is, if a enemies army sets foot upon Traansval Territory, our Citizens become apart of our Army.

Policies on Banning Guns should be taken up by individual nationstates, not the WA...

Just a draft. If you have a better definition, please share it to better the resolution! Also, if the citizens are part of the military right? If so, citizens can carry automatic weapons as always!

Well no. Their not apart of my military, their Citizens, but in the event of a invasion they can be called into service with the National Militia. This Militia relies on Civilians to provide their own Firearms so that funds can be used on other items.

[Wallenburg]

Believing that no civilian needs an automatic weapon in their home or anywhere for that matter.

"Self defense comes to mind, especially for civilians near the border."

Defining an automatic weapon as a firearm that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"By this definition, a semi-automatic pistol is an automatic weapon, a single-fire rifle is an automatic weapon, and a muzzle-loading musket is an automatic weapon."

Noting that possession of such a device is acceptable when possessed by military personnel during war or peace time.

"Well, duh."

Dismayed that possession of an automatic weapon by non-military personnel in all member states is not criminalized in member states already.

Encouraging member states to buy back automatic weapons from those in possession of them currently.

Hereby

Criminalizes all ownership of automatic weapons by civilians.

Ensures that member states buy back automatic weapons from those currently in possession.

"Absolutely unacceptable. The right to own arms and defend oneself is extremely important to Wallenburg."

Keeps assault weapons in the hands of the militaries.

"Assault weapons? What is an assault weapon? I will absolutely not stand for everything from a tank to a survival knife to be banned from civilian use, just because it is a weapon."

Thoughts?

"Should I get the flamethrower, or will you get it yourself?"

[The Traansval]

If you must continue with this Draft, i suggest that a Automatic Weapon be defined as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manually reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

[Republic of Tacos]

Just a draft. If you have a better definition, please share it to better the resolution! Also, if the citizens are part of the military right? If so, citizens can carry automatic weapons as always!

Well no. Their not apart of my military, their Citizens, but in the event of a invasion they can be called into service with the National Militia. This Militia relies on Civilians to provide their own Firearms so that funds can be used on other items.

They can arm themselves with semi-automatic weapons then!

Believing that no civilian needs an automatic weapon in their home or anywhere for that matter.

"Self defense comes to mind, especially for civilians near the border."

Defining an automatic weapon as a firearm that fires with little to no work from an outside source.

"By this definition, a semi-automatic pistol is an automatic weapon, a single-fire rifle is an automatic weapon, and a muzzle-loading musket is an automatic weapon."

Noting that possession of such a device is acceptable when possessed by military personnel during war or peace time.

"Well, duh."

Dismayed that possession of an automatic weapon by non-military personnel in all member states is not criminalized in member states already.


"Absolutely unacceptable. The right to own arms and defend oneself is extremely important to Wallenburg."

"Assault weapons? What is an assault weapon? I will absolutely not stand for everything from a tank to a survival knife to be banned from civilian use, just because it is a weapon."

"Should I get the flamethrower, or will you get it yourself?"

I will go through and answer and respond.

1. Semi-automatic weaponry will still be allowed in the hands of the civilians!

2. Rather than criticize the definition for what it is, why don't you write up a better one to better the resolution?

3. Glad that you agree.

4. Again, may I mention semi-automatic weaponry?

5. That was a misprint in the draft.

6. No need to be so rude, it is just a draft that can be bettered!

[Excidium Planetis]

If you must continue with this Draft, i suggest that a Automatic Weapon be defined as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manually reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

"That would simultaneously exclude many automatic weapons, and include many semi-automatic weapons. I suggest that the real definition of automatic weapon be used instead."

[Republic of Tacos]

If you must continue with this Draft, i suggest that a Automatic Weapon be defined as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manually reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

Thank you for being so cooperative!

[The Traansval]

If you must continue with this Draft, i suggest that a Automatic Weapon be defined as any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manually reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

"That would simultaneously exclude many automatic weapons, and include many semi-automatic weapons. I suggest that the real definition of automatic weapon be used instead."

That was the "Real Definition"

From the "Federal Law on Machine Guns & Automatic Firearms"
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/federal-law/classes-of-weapons-ammunition/machine-guns-automatic-firearms/

[The Traansval]

Now, i am searching, but there is no real "One Definite" definition of a Automatic Weapon. I will attempt to find a better definition.

[Excidium Planetis]

They can arm themselves with semi-automatic weapons then!

"They cannot, as your definition of automatic weapon includes all semi-auto weapons."

Rather than criticize the definition for what it is, why don't you write up a better one to better the resolution?

"It isn't Ambassador Ogenbond's job to write your resolution for you, especially as he has made it clear he opposes it entirely."

"That would simultaneously exclude many automatic weapons, and include many semi-automatic weapons. I suggest that the real definition of automatic weapon be used instead."

That was the "Real Definition"

"No, it was not. An automatic weapon is any weapon which can fire multiple times with a single trigger pull, no nonsense about the rate of fire."

From the "Federal Law on Machine Guns & Automatic Firearms"
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/federal-law/classes-of-weapons-ammunition/machine-guns-automatic-firearms/

OOC
Notice how that definition there is not at all what your wrote. The federal definition makes no mention of 5 rounds per second.

[The Traansval]

Ok, in light of constructive critism, i suggest that Automatic Weapons be defined as:

A Machine that can fire a Lethal Projectile, reload itself without help from a Human, Animal, or Another Machine, and continue firing until its Ammunition is depleted or the Trigger or Firing Button is released.

[The Traansval]

They can arm themselves with semi-automatic weapons then!

"They cannot, as your definition of automatic weapon includes all semi-auto weapons."

Rather than criticize the definition for what it is, why don't you write up a better one to better the resolution?

"It isn't Ambassador Ogenbond's job to write your resolution for you, especially as he has made it clear he opposes it entirely."

That was the "Real Definition"

"No, it was not. An automatic weapon is any weapon which can fire multiple times with a single trigger pull, no nonsense about the rate of fire."

From the "Federal Law on Machine Guns & Automatic Firearms"
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/federal-law/classes-of-weapons-ammunition/machine-guns-automatic-firearms/

OOC
Notice how that definition there is not at all what your wrote. The federal definition makes no mention of 5 rounds per second.

If you had noticed, i had updated that post. I had written the "5 Rounds per Second" definition before i had discovered that site. After finding it, i had edited my post. Anyway, i have proposed a new Definition.

[Republic of Tacos]

Ok, in light of constructive critism, i suggest that Automatic Weapons be defined as:

A Machine that can fire a Lethal Projectile, reload itself without help from a Human, Animal, or Another Machine, and continue firing until its Ammunition is depleted or the Trigger or Firing Button is released.

They can arm themselves with semi-automatic weapons then!

"They cannot, as your definition of automatic weapon includes all semi-auto weapons."

Rather than criticize the definition for what it is, why don't you write up a better one to better the resolution?

"It isn't Ambassador Ogenbond's job to write your resolution for you, especially as he has made it clear he opposes it entirely."

That was the "Real Definition"

"No, it was not. An automatic weapon is any weapon which can fire multiple times with a single trigger pull, no nonsense about the rate of fire."

From the "Federal Law on Machine Guns & Automatic Firearms"
http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/federal-law/classes-of-weapons-ammunition/machine-guns-automatic-firearms/

OOC
Notice how that definition there is not at all what your wrote. The federal definition makes no mention of 5 rounds per second.

I thank you for the help with the resolution!