by Ipland » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:21 pm
by Luziyca » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:22 pm
by Ipland » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:24 pm
Luziyca wrote:Firstly, you cannot restrict thread participation to just a select few members. This ain't like the RP forums where you can pick and choose who participates. Here, anyone interested in such discussions can post in it.
Also, I feel that the OP needs to be a bit more fleshed out.
by New confederate ramenia » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:25 pm
by Pandeeria » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Neanderthaland » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Once the capitalist phase of development has been sufficiently achieved, Communism is the better option.
by Revitallia » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:27 pm
by Pandeeria » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:28 pm
Revitallia wrote:Frankly, Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've got. Communism just isn't practical in the real world.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Kinubanza » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:28 pm
by Engleberg » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:30 pm
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by Decorus Inperium » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:30 pm
Revitallia wrote:Frankly, Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've got. Communism just isn't practical in the real world.
And to be honest, if you're talking about the very ideals of them, 'pure' Capitalism and Communism, if you will, then I'm still on the side of Capitalism. I believe people should deserve what they get. I don't think everyone should get the same thing, especially if other had to work harder to do it.
by Revitallia » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:30 pm
by Trotza » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:32 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Once the capitalist phase of development has been sufficiently achieved, Communism is the better option.
by Revitallia » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:32 pm
Decorus Inperium wrote:Revitallia wrote:Frankly, Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've got. Communism just isn't practical in the real world.
And to be honest, if you're talking about the very ideals of them, 'pure' Capitalism and Communism, if you will, then I'm still on the side of Capitalism. I believe people should deserve what they get. I don't think everyone should get the same thing, especially if other had to work harder to do it.
But the sweatshop worker works harder than the CEO. And who gets more reward? The CEO. In capitalism people don't get what they deserve.
by Revitallia » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Once the capitalist phase of development has been sufficiently achieved, Communism is the better option.
by Pandeeria » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:34 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Decorus Inperium » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:35 pm
Revitallia wrote:Decorus Inperium wrote:
But the sweatshop worker works harder than the CEO. And who gets more reward? The CEO. In capitalism people don't get what they deserve.
In that scenario I'm talking about 'pure' Capitalism. By the book. Not practical Capitalism. But still between the two (practical Capitalism and practical Communism), Capitalism tends to work out better. A long way from perfect, but better nonetheless.
by Pandeeria » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:35 pm
Keomora wrote:I support capitalism, and on good terms with socialism. But no green light with communism
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Decorus Inperium » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:35 pm
Pandeeria wrote:Revitallia wrote: But really though. I know there hasn't been 'pure' Capitalism or 'pure' Communism, but in the examples that we have had so far in this world, Capitalism is the better course.
The only example we have of Communism is an attempt by bunch of unhealthy, semi-authoritarian Leninists trying to get Socialism in the poor, illiterate, dirt hole that was the Russian Empire. The same place where famine and disease were commonplace. All further revolts of the 20th century were merely outgrowths of the Bolshevik Revolution.
On the other hand, pure capitalism will still lead to a stratified, class society, with a strong state. It will lead to the same issues as before.
by Pandeeria » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:37 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???
by Trotza » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:40 pm
Decorus Inperium wrote:Revitallia wrote:Frankly, Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've got. Communism just isn't practical in the real world.
And to be honest, if you're talking about the very ideals of them, 'pure' Capitalism and Communism, if you will, then I'm still on the side of Capitalism. I believe people should deserve what they get. I don't think everyone should get the same thing, especially if other had to work harder to do it.
But the sweatshop worker works harder than the CEO. And who gets more reward? The CEO. In capitalism people don't get what they deserve.
by Decorus Inperium » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:41 pm
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