US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The Onion has gotten a bit stale with material, but this guy hasn't it seems.

ua ges dtbbt.

What?

[Galloism]

I would bet money there are. Whether they'll make it into the light of day or not I don't know.

Donald has been on camera for many years, but there's strong contracts surrounding a lot of it. I mean, hopefully more get released, but I'm not sure there will be, given how litigious he is.

I hope they do so they can realize he's been a scummy dirt bag repeatedly.

I mean, the election has proved that conclusively, but you know, for some people no amount of evidence is sufficient.

You know, when Donald said he could shoot someone and not lose a single voter...

Well, does it bother you to think he might not have actually been wrong?

[Major-Tom]

Glen Beck speaks out and effectively says Hillary is the better choice.

The bastard. What did Hillary ever do to him?

Holy fucking shit? Beck?evryones favoite conservstive commentator? Thi s election is somtjing ese.

[Major-Tom]

ua ges dtbbt.

What?

I dont remember are we talking about Borowitz?

[Galloism]

The bastard. What did Hillary ever do to him?

Holy fucking shit? Beck?evryones favoite conservstive commentator? Thi s election is somtjing ese.

Go home Tom, you're drunk.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What?

I dont remember are we talking about Borowitz?

Yea, at least on the comment you replied on, yea.

[Dushan]

I hope they do so they can realize he's been a scummy dirt bag repeatedly.

I mean, the election has proved that conclusively, but you know, for some people no amount of evidence is sufficient.

You know, when Donald said he could shoot someone and not lose a single voter...

Well, does it bother you to think he might not have actually been wrong?

But that was when the Trump Train had full speed and inertia and was unstoppable. Recently it has been going more... slower. Especially with Election Day closing, stuff like Pussygate has more severe consequences.

[Eol Sha]

The bastard. What did Hillary ever do to him?

Holy fucking shit? Beck?evryones favoite conservstive commentator? Thi s election is somtjing ese.

Actually, Beck hates Trump and has hated him this whole cycle.

[Ebliania]

I mean, the election has proved that conclusively, but you know, for some people no amount of evidence is sufficient.

You know, when Donald said he could shoot someone and not lose a single voter...

Well, does it bother you to think he might not have actually been wrong?

But that was when the Trump Train had full speed and inertia and was unstoppable. Recently it has been going more... slower. Especially with Election Day closing, stuff like Pussygate has more severe consequences.

Slower? I think it's derailing.

[Corrian]

Holy fucking shit? Beck?evryones favoite conservstive commentator? Thi s election is somtjing ese.

Go home Tom, you're drunk.

There's not even a debate going on right now!

I guess this whole election season is a good excuse to drink, though.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, the election has proved that conclusively, but you know, for some people no amount of evidence is sufficient.

You know, when Donald said he could shoot someone and not lose a single voter...

Well, does it bother you to think he might not have actually been wrong?

But that was when the Trump Train had full speed and inertia and was unstoppable. Recently it has been going more... slower. Especially with Election Day closing, stuff like Pussygate has more severe consequences.

Seriously now, saying he could murder someone gets a pass, but saying that he'd grab women by the pussy and he can get away with it because he's rich doesn't?

What the fuck, America. One would think they're both equally horrible phrases to say for a president, and yet the latter is the one he's being criticized on.

[Costa Fierro]

Like, come on people, just because the village idiot thinks that something is a good idea, that doesn't mean the rest of the idiots have to jump and make the point that they, too, are horrible people.

Or for better clarification: Just because the popular idiot jumps off a bridge that doesn't mean we all have jumped off any bridges.

No one remotely suggested that everyone else should do it, because there's already enough issues with false rape claims as is without adding any physical contact whatsoever to "things people on the internet find sexist".

Also, this "horrible people" thing is ridiculous. So men cannot comment among other men about the physical appearance of a woman and whether or not he'd like to have sex with them? I bet there are plenty of women, even the majority, who talk about men in similar fashion and about who they would have sex with. It's just what we do, among other things.

[USS Monitor]

Actual sports team, who are, you know, commonly in locker rooms, says they've never heard Trump's comment in "locker room talk"

Good to know the Seahawks have some common decency.

[Galloism]

Like, come on people, just because the village idiot thinks that something is a good idea, that doesn't mean the rest of the idiots have to jump and make the point that they, too, are horrible people.

Or for better clarification: Just because the popular idiot jumps off a bridge that doesn't mean we all have jumped off any bridges.

No one remotely suggested that everyone else should do it, because there's already enough issues with false rape claims as is without adding any physical contact whatsoever to "things people on the internet find sexist".

Also, this "horrible people" thing is ridiculous. So men cannot comment among other men about the physical appearance of a woman and whether or not he'd like to have sex with them? I bet there are plenty of women, even the majority, who talk about men in similar fashion and about who they would have sex with. It's just what we do, among other things.

I'd say a woman saying she can grab any man by the dick and there's nothing he can do because she's famous should be considered similarly deplorable.

She's describing sexual assault. Just like Donald did.

[Wisconsin9]

I mean, the election has proved that conclusively, but you know, for some people no amount of evidence is sufficient.

You know, when Donald said he could shoot someone and not lose a single voter...

Well, does it bother you to think he might not have actually been wrong?

But that was when the Trump Train had full speed and inertia and was unstoppable. Recently it has been going more... slower. Especially with Election Day closing, stuff like Pussygate has more severe consequences.

Seems to me more like it hit an 80 degree turn at 80 miles an hour.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Like, come on people, just because the village idiot thinks that something is a good idea, that doesn't mean the rest of the idiots have to jump and make the point that they, too, are horrible people.

Or for better clarification: Just because the popular idiot jumps off a bridge that doesn't mean we all have jumped off any bridges.

No one remotely suggested that everyone else should do it, because there's already enough issues with false rape claims as is without adding any physical contact whatsoever to "things people on the internet find sexist".

Also, this "horrible people" thing is ridiculous. So men cannot comment among other men about the physical appearance of a woman and whether or not he'd like to have sex with them? I bet there are plenty of women, even the majority, who talk about men in similar fashion and about who they would have sex with. It's just what we do, among other things.

Actual sports team, who are, you know, commonly in locker rooms, says they've never heard Trump's comment in "locker room talk"

Commenting on how attractivr a woman is is locker room talk. Saying you grab em by the pussy is just straight up sexual assault, and i ait even being lo key here ok.

^ the above is an opinion I actually share on all this.

I talk about liking a woman and wanting them in a sexual way. However, I am not entirely sure I've ever heard any man go about what they'd like to do to a woman, such as, but not limited to "grabbing them by the pussy".

[Bombadil]

Like, come on people, just because the village idiot thinks that something is a good idea, that doesn't mean the rest of the idiots have to jump and make the point that they, too, are horrible people.

Or for better clarification: Just because the popular idiot jumps off a bridge that doesn't mean we all have jumped off any bridges.

No one remotely suggested that everyone else should do it, because there's already enough issues with false rape claims as is without adding any physical contact whatsoever to "things people on the internet find sexist".

Also, this "horrible people" thing is ridiculous. So men cannot comment among other men about the physical appearance of a woman and whether or not he'd like to have sex with them? I bet there are plenty of women, even the majority, who talk about men in similar fashion and about who they would have sex with. It's just what we do, among other things.

Physically making contact with someone else's genitals without consent is sexual assault. Period.

[Galloism]

No one remotely suggested that everyone else should do it, because there's already enough issues with false rape claims as is without adding any physical contact whatsoever to "things people on the internet find sexist".

Also, this "horrible people" thing is ridiculous. So men cannot comment among other men about the physical appearance of a woman and whether or not he'd like to have sex with them? I bet there are plenty of women, even the majority, who talk about men in similar fashion and about who they would have sex with. It's just what we do, among other things.

Commenting on how attractivr a woman is is locker room talk. Saying you grab em by the pussy is just straight up sexual assault, and i ait even being lo key here ok.

^ the above is an opinion I actually share on all this.

I talk about liking a woman and wanting them in a sexual way. However, I am not entirely sure I've ever heard any man go about what they'd like to do to a woman, such as, but not limited to "grabbing them by the pussy".

I gotta admit, the first time I heard it, I received a very unpleasant mental image of what that might look like.

[Major-Tom]

Holy fucking shit? Beck?evryones favoite conservstive commentator? Thi s election is somtjing ese.

Go home Tom, you're drunk.

ok mom.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

^ the above is an opinion I actually share on all this.

I talk about liking a woman and wanting them in a sexual way. However, I am not entirely sure I've ever heard any man go about what they'd like to do to a woman, such as, but not limited to "grabbing them by the pussy".

I gotta admit, the first time I heard it, I received a very unpleasant mental image of what that might look like.

My first response mentally was, and I am not joking here, "how the fuck do you grab a woman by their pussy?"

But even more seriously after that, it was like "I don't really need to know what your sexual fantasies are, Donald, nor did I wanted to know".

[Gauthier]

Trump... you fucking bastard.

An extraordinary backstage confrontation between Donald J. Trump’s campaign and the staff of the Presidential Commission on Debates unfolded just minutes before the debate on Sunday night after Mr. Trump tried to give seats in his V.I.P. box to a group of women who have accused former President Bill Clinton of making unwanted sexual advances.

The situation de-escalated only after the commission threatened to call security to remove the women if they tried to sit in the box, where they would have been right next to Mr. Clinton and in Hillary Clinton’s line of sight from the stage — a spectacle that Mr. Trump and his top advisers tried to engineer for maximum shock effect just as tens of millions of people would be tuning in from around the world.

With little other option to avoid a physical scuffle, however, the Trump campaign relented.

The episode was the latest in a string of threats, taunts and gamesmanship over the debates from both campaigns.

The incident in St. Louis on Sunday night, reported earlier by The Washington Post, rose to the highest levels of the Trump campaign and the debate commission. Moments before the kerfuffle over seating, Mr. Trump and his campaign chief executive, Stephen K. Bannon, had surprised reporters by staging an impromptu news conference with the Republican nominee and three women who have claimed that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton minimized and belittled their claims of sexual misconduct. Among them were Paula Jones, whose sexual harassment lawsuit against Mr. Clinton helped force his impeachment, and Juanita Broaddrick, who has accused the former president of raping her in 1978. A fourth woman, who said she was raped as a child by a man Hillary Clinton defended at trial in 1975, also appeared at the impromptu panel.

The Trump campaign, which paid for the women to travel to St. Louis, kept the news conference tightly under wraps, going so far as to tell the reporters they took into the room, where Ms. Jones, Ms. Broaddrick and the others were waiting, that they were about to witness Mr. Trump’s debate preparations.

There was little the debate commission could do to stop Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon’s news conference. But when the co-chairman of the commission, Mr. Fahrenkopf, a former Republican National Committee chairman, got word that the campaign was going to try to put the women in the Trump V.I.P. box just as the last of the audience members were taking their seats, he objected.

“He said I will get security and yank them out of there,” said one Republican with firsthand knowledge of the episode.

From the Trump campaign’s perspective, it was utilizing its four seats in the V.I.P. box as it should. But Mr. Fahrenkopf insisted that the agreement with the commission and the two campaigns allowed only family members in those seats. The commission denied the Clintons’ request that Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri be seated in their box.

Kellyanne Conway, Mr. Trump’s campaign manager, said in an interview with CBS News on Monday morning that she still did not understand why Mr. Fahrenkopf would not allow the women to be seated where Mr. Trump wanted them.

“I was surprised that they thwarted that, only because it did not say family box, it said V.I.P. box,” Ms. Conway said. “These women want to be heard.”

Before the first debate at Hofstra University on Long Island last month, the Clinton and Trump campaigns bickered over their guests. Mrs. Clinton’s aides invited Mark Cuban, the reality TV entrepreneur and frequent Trump antagonist, and said he would be sitting in the front row.

Mr. Trump, never one to be upstaged in creating a flamboyant diversion, threatened to invite another woman from Mr. Clinton’s past, Gennifer Flowers, and seat her in the front row. Ms. Flowers, who has said she carried on a long-running affair with the former president, did not attend. Mr. Trump, it appeared, let the cooler heads inside his campaign prevail.

But by Sunday night, all bets were off.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/us/po ... ebate.html

Ok, this is just bad all the way around. Let's do a hypothetical both ways:

Let's suppose the claims of these women against Bill are true. You're going to seat them next to their rapist?

Let's suppose the claims of these women against Bill are not true. You're going to force Bill to sit next to someone who has falsely accused him of rape?

Trump, you're a bastard of the highest order.

Round Three, Hillary needs to pop some Tic Tacs and offer some to Donald.

[Corrian]

I can't believe this is a topic that has to come up on an election thread of all places.

By the way, and I know I am actually a weird breed in this regard, I have never talked about people I am attracted to in the level of "Yeah, I'd have sex with that". I have commented on being attracted to people, though, but that's about as far as I ever go. Partially because I even find commenting on the more "extreme" but actually "tolerable" comments to be too much for me. And Trump's goes even beyond that.

[Galloism]

I gotta admit, the first time I heard it, I received a very unpleasant mental image of what that might look like.

My first response mentally was, and I am not joking here, "how the fuck do you grab a woman by their pussy?"

But even more seriously after that, it was like "I don't really need to know what your sexual fantasies are, Donald, nor did I wanted to know".

I might have a better imagination than you.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I can't believe this is a topic that has to come up on an election thread of all places.

By the way, and I know I am actually a weird breed in this regard, I have never talked about people I am attracted to in the level of "Yeah, I'd have sex with that". I have commented on being attracted to people, though, but that's about as far as I ever go. Partially because I even find commenting on the more "extreme" but actually "tolerable" comments to be too much for me. And Trump's goes even beyond that.

I mean, I will be honest, me and my dad talk in a crude manner about all kinds of topics. We are Latinos though, and so our manner of speaking about topics are usually colored by that particular outlier.

But Donald's comments are something that left both of us cringing and going "holy shit is this guy for real?"

[Galloism]

I can't believe this is a topic that has to come up on an election thread of all places.

By the way, and I know I am actually a weird breed in this regard, I have never talked about people I am attracted to in the level of "Yeah, I'd have sex with that". I have commented on being attracted to people, though, but that's about as far as I ever go. Partially because I even find commenting on the more "extreme" but actually "tolerable" comments to be too much for me. And Trump's goes even beyond that.

I mean, I will be honest, me and my dad talk in a crude manner about all kinds of topics.

But Donald's comments are something that left both of us cringing and going "holy shit is this guy for real?"

And perhaps more to the point, you and your dad are not running for president, someone viewed as a role model for children.