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Marco Rubio, and Joe Heck save lives after car crash.

Postby Arumbia67 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:21 am

West Virginia, Senator Marco Rubio, and Congressman Joe Heck were coming from an event when a semi lost control, and hit 3 cars. Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety, while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid. All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap: . Maybe the media can pay a little more attention to this, instead of making fun of Rubio for drinking water.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:23 am

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:23 am

Arumbia67 wrote:West Virginia, Senator Marco Rubio, and Congressman Joe Heck were coming from an event when a semi lost control, and hit 3 cars. Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety, while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid. All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap: . Maybe the media can pay a little more attention to this, instead of making fun of Rubio for drinking water.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/ ... index.html


Good for them.

However, I'll think less of them if they try to milk this for political gain.

And I am a bit glum about Heck being involved, because he's running opposite Harry Reid, currently leading, and so this could cost the Democrats a Nevada Senate seat. I mean, he did the right thing, I just wish the price wasn't potentially a Senate seat going red.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:28 am

Good for Rubio and Heck. It's nice to see them doing something worthwhile.

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Postby Arumbia67 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:29 am

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Arumbia67 wrote:West Virginia, Senator Marco Rubio, and Congressman Joe Heck were coming from an event when a semi lost control, and hit 3 cars. Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety, while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid. All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap: . Maybe the media can pay a little more attention to this, instead of making fun of Rubio for drinking water.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/ ... index.html


Good for them.

However, I'll think less of them if they try to milk this for political gain.

And I am a bit glum about Heck being involved, because he's running opposite Harry Reid, currently leading, and so this could cost the Democrats a Nevada Senate seat. I mean, he did the right thing, I just wish the price wasn't potentially a Senate seat going red.

He was already going to win anyway. Once he picked up the endorsement of the Asian American business council, he shot upwards in the polls. Last one I saw had him up 7. Masto is a crappy candidate, and there's no Sharron Angle to save her.
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Postby Arumbia67 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:32 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Good for Rubio and Heck. It's nice to see them doing something worthwhile.

Indeed. Maybe they should focus on trying to rename post offices, and claiming to care about the poor, but barely giving to charity like a certain white haired senator *nods*.
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Postby The Trump Galactical Empire » Sat Oct 01, 2016 1:52 am

I have regained respect for Rubio after his disastrous POTUS bid. I like to see him do more of this.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:27 am

Arumbia67 wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Good for Rubio and Heck. It's nice to see them doing something worthwhile.

Indeed. Maybe they should focus on trying to rename post offices, and claiming to care about the poor, but barely giving to charity like a certain white haired senator *nods*.


I'm puzzled by what relationship you must think that he has to the topic.

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Postby SUNTHREIT » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:35 am

Good on them both. Great to see people helping people in situations when it's needed.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:05 am

Sunthreit wrote:Good on them both. Great to see people helping people in situations when it's needed.

Meh, looks like standard civic duty to me. Ain't going to wet myself for so little.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:17 am

The CNN report in full:

Washington (CNN) Sen. Marco Rubio and Rep. Joe Heck, two Republicans in two key Senate races, pulled over Thursday night traveling back from an event to help with the aftermath of a multi-car crash.
Rubio, of Florida, and Heck, who represents Nevada's 3rd congressional district and is a combat surgeon, were driving to their hotel in Wheeling, West Virginia, when they witnessed a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars, according to WTRF. (1)

The two helped the victims until first responders arrived and provided information to authorities, according to Rubio's campaign office. (2) One of the victims, identified by WTRF as a 62-year-old man, died as a result of his injuries.

"Jeanette and I send our prayers and condolences to the family of the individual who tragically lost their life in Thursday night's accident in West Virginia," Rubio said in a statement. "I want to thank all of the first responders who arrived quickly and did their jobs with swift professionalism. Please join me in praying for all those affected."

"Lisa and I want to join the Rubios in offering prayers and condolences to those grieving and wish a speedy recovery to the injured," Heck said in a statement. "As always, we have great respect for the first responders who handle such cases every day."


1 WTRF report linked, in full:
WHEELING -

UPDATE: Noon - Friday, Sept. 30. New details have been released on a fatal accident in Ohio County that occurred late Thursday night.

Police say the victim was 62-year-old Bernard Howard Bachmann of Washington.

According to Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler, a semi was headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars headed eastbound.

Bachmann was pronounced dead at the scene.

No drugs or alcohol appear to be a factor, but they are waiting for reports.

Sheriff Butler says the semi truck driver may have hydroplaned.

ORIGINAL: 10:19 p.m. - Thursday, Sept. 29.

Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler has confirmed that one person was killed in an accident near Exit 10 on I-70 in Ohio County on Thursday night.

Butler said the crash involved multiple vehicles, and that a large amount of police and first responders are on the scene.

At the scene of what we have heard is a fatal auto accident, I-70 EB near Dallas Pike. Avoid the area. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016

All lanes of I-70 eastbound are closed while the accident is being cleaned up and investigated.

According to Ohio County EMA Director Lou Vargo, it all happened when a Semi Truck and three other vehicles collided.

One car flipped on its side; other with tarp out of respect for deceased. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016


This gives foundation to the CNN claim "a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars" but there is nothing in the local news about Rubio or Heck, to substantiate "they witnessed a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control".

With no other sources mentioned, presumably the claim that Rubio and Heck "witnessed" the accident take place comes from Senator Rubio's office. Some un-named person at his office, who is quoted here: (2). Tweets from Rubio and Heck (called "statements" by CNN) acknowledge they were there, but neither tweet gives any indication they were anything more than observers. Both praise first responders.

So we have

  1. Rubio and Heck witnessed an accident take place, according to CNN according to an unknown source at Rubio campaign HQ.
  2. Rubio and Heck helped survivors to safety, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67
  3. Heck administered first aid to survivors, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67

One part exaggerated fact, two parts bullshit by a blatantly partisan poster on NSG. This is the stuff that great threads are made of, to be sure.
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Postby Herador » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:42 am

Ailiailia wrote:-snip-

Oh well, OP tried. Gold Star for effort.
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Postby Arumbia67 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:50 am

Ailiailia wrote:The CNN report in full:

Washington (CNN) Sen. Marco Rubio and Rep. Joe Heck, two Republicans in two key Senate races, pulled over Thursday night traveling back from an event to help with the aftermath of a multi-car crash.
Rubio, of Florida, and Heck, who represents Nevada's 3rd congressional district and is a combat surgeon, were driving to their hotel in Wheeling, West Virginia, when they witnessed a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars, according to WTRF. (1)

The two helped the victims until first responders arrived and provided information to authorities, according to Rubio's campaign office. (2) One of the victims, identified by WTRF as a 62-year-old man, died as a result of his injuries.

"Jeanette and I send our prayers and condolences to the family of the individual who tragically lost their life in Thursday night's accident in West Virginia," Rubio said in a statement. "I want to thank all of the first responders who arrived quickly and did their jobs with swift professionalism. Please join me in praying for all those affected."

"Lisa and I want to join the Rubios in offering prayers and condolences to those grieving and wish a speedy recovery to the injured," Heck said in a statement. "As always, we have great respect for the first responders who handle such cases every day."


1 WTRF report linked, in full:
WHEELING -

UPDATE: Noon - Friday, Sept. 30. New details have been released on a fatal accident in Ohio County that occurred late Thursday night.

Police say the victim was 62-year-old Bernard Howard Bachmann of Washington.

According to Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler, a semi was headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars headed eastbound.

Bachmann was pronounced dead at the scene.

No drugs or alcohol appear to be a factor, but they are waiting for reports.

Sheriff Butler says the semi truck driver may have hydroplaned.

ORIGINAL: 10:19 p.m. - Thursday, Sept. 29.

Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler has confirmed that one person was killed in an accident near Exit 10 on I-70 in Ohio County on Thursday night.

Butler said the crash involved multiple vehicles, and that a large amount of police and first responders are on the scene.

At the scene of what we have heard is a fatal auto accident, I-70 EB near Dallas Pike. Avoid the area. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016

All lanes of I-70 eastbound are closed while the accident is being cleaned up and investigated.

According to Ohio County EMA Director Lou Vargo, it all happened when a Semi Truck and three other vehicles collided.

One car flipped on its side; other with tarp out of respect for deceased. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016


This gives foundation to the CNN claim "a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars" but there is nothing in the local news about Rubio or Heck, to substantiate "they witnessed a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control".

With no other sources mentioned, presumably the claim that Rubio and Heck "witnessed" the accident take place comes from Senator Rubio's office. Some un-named person at his office, who is quoted here: (2). Tweets from Rubio and Heck (called "statements" by CNN) acknowledge they were there, but neither tweet gives any indication they were anything more than observers. Both praise first responders.

So we have

  1. Rubio and Heck witnessed an accident take place, according to CNN according to an unknown source at Rubio campaign HQ.
  2. Rubio and Heck helped survivors to safety, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67
  3. Heck administered first aid to survivors, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67

One part exaggerated fact, two parts bullshit by a blatantly partisan poster on NSG. This is the stuff that great threads are made of, to be sure.

What reason do we have to assume they lied? That's a pretty ridiculous story to tell. Also, the report itself said they helped. "The two helped the victims until first responders arrived and provided information to authorities, according to Rubio's campaign office. (2) One of the victims, identified by WTRF as a 62-year-old man, died as a result of his injuries." Or did you miss that part?
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:22 am

Arumbia67 wrote:West Virginia, Senator Marco Rubio, and Congressman Joe Heck were coming from an event when a semi lost control, and hit 3 cars. Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety, while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid. All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap: . Maybe the media can pay a little more attention to this, instead of making fun of Rubio for drinking water.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/ ... index.html

To be perfectly honest I fail to see why people should care about either.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:25 am

So the story as I understand it is "some peeps may or may not have helped save some peeps"?

Good for the peeps if that happened.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:42 am

Arumbia67 wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:The CNN report in full:



1 WTRF report linked, in full:
WHEELING -

UPDATE: Noon - Friday, Sept. 30. New details have been released on a fatal accident in Ohio County that occurred late Thursday night.

Police say the victim was 62-year-old Bernard Howard Bachmann of Washington.

According to Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler, a semi was headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars headed eastbound.

Bachmann was pronounced dead at the scene.

No drugs or alcohol appear to be a factor, but they are waiting for reports.

Sheriff Butler says the semi truck driver may have hydroplaned.

ORIGINAL: 10:19 p.m. - Thursday, Sept. 29.

Ohio County Sheriff Pat Butler has confirmed that one person was killed in an accident near Exit 10 on I-70 in Ohio County on Thursday night.

Butler said the crash involved multiple vehicles, and that a large amount of police and first responders are on the scene.

At the scene of what we have heard is a fatal auto accident, I-70 EB near Dallas Pike. Avoid the area. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016

All lanes of I-70 eastbound are closed while the accident is being cleaned up and investigated.

According to Ohio County EMA Director Lou Vargo, it all happened when a Semi Truck and three other vehicles collided.

One car flipped on its side; other with tarp out of respect for deceased. @WTRF7News
— Kurt Weinschenker (@KurtBW_WTRF) September 30, 2016


This gives foundation to the CNN claim "a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control, went across the median and hit three cars" but there is nothing in the local news about Rubio or Heck, to substantiate "they witnessed a semi-truck headed westbound when he lost control".

With no other sources mentioned, presumably the claim that Rubio and Heck "witnessed" the accident take place comes from Senator Rubio's office. Some un-named person at his office, who is quoted here: (2). Tweets from Rubio and Heck (called "statements" by CNN) acknowledge they were there, but neither tweet gives any indication they were anything more than observers. Both praise first responders.

So we have

  1. Rubio and Heck witnessed an accident take place, according to CNN according to an unknown source at Rubio campaign HQ.
  2. Rubio and Heck helped survivors to safety, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67
  3. Heck administered first aid to survivors, according to anonymous poster Arumbia67

One part exaggerated fact, two parts bullshit by a blatantly partisan poster on NSG. This is the stuff that great threads are made of, to be sure.


What reason do we have to assume they lied? That's a pretty ridiculous story to tell. Also, the report itself said they helped. "The two helped the victims until first responders arrived and provided information to authorities, according to Rubio's campaign office. (2) One of the victims, identified by WTRF as a 62-year-old man, died as a result of his injuries." Or did you miss that part?


I never said Rubio or Hack lied. Their tweets however do not claim that they helped.

"Jeanette and I send our prayers and condolences to the family of the individual who tragically lost their life in Thursday night's accident in West Virginia," Rubio said in a statement. "I want to thank all of the first responders who arrived quickly and did their jobs with swift professionalism. Please join me in praying for all those affected."
"Lisa and I want to join the Rubios in offering prayers and condolences to those grieving and wish a speedy recovery to the injured," Heck said in a statement. "As always, we have great respect for the first responders who handle such cases every day."

CNN claimed that. Without a source, that's what I described as "one part exaggerated fact".

Arumbia67 wrote: Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety


Lie #1

Arumbia67 wrote: while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid.


Lie #2

No source for either of these. You lied.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Oct 01, 2016 5:34 am

Politicians doing something that saves lives?

Well, now I've seen everything.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:12 am

The Holy Therns wrote:So the story as I understand it is "some peeps may or may not have helped save some peeps"?

Good for the peeps if that happened.


Pretty much. Which makes this thread rather pointless, since the only reason I can see behind its posting is for political advertisement. Strange, I guess integrity doesn't exist in everyone after all.

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Trump has announced he will drop out of the race and Marco Rubio will be running in his place.
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Good on him. I like to think anyone would have done that in the circumstances, but perhaps not. Now all he needs to do is dump Trump and I can respect him.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:12 am

Arumbia67 wrote:West Virginia, Senator Marco Rubio, and Congressman Joe Heck were coming from an event when a semi lost control, and hit 3 cars. Both men left their vehicle, and helped carry passengers to safety, while Heck a former combat surgeon, provided first aid. All I can say is :clap: :clap: :clap: . Maybe the media can pay a little more attention to this, instead of making fun of Rubio for drinking water.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/30/politics/ ... index.html

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