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Islamic media tirade chases atheist journalist out of land

Postby Novoslaviensko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:37 am

An unbiased and straight forward version to the last thread, scoped to the regular format of news related threads in this subforum.


Bosnian journalist Lejla Colak told BIRN on Monday that she had received a series of threats of violence after criticising Islamic garments like the burka and niqab in a post she wrote on Facebook.

In her post on August 26, Colak, an atheist, compared wearing such garments in public to wearing a “strap-on dildo in the streets”.

“Religion should be intimate, just like sexuality. Keep it to yourself and the like-minded. Do not impose it on others,” Colak wrote.

After local Islamic news portal Saff.ba published criticism of her post, Colak began receiving threats via Facebook Messenger and in the comments section of the post.

“Are there any volunteers to rape lovely Lejla? … I will personally pay for it???” wrote one man, whose online profile says that he is a member of the Bosnian Army.

Two female social media users called for Colak to be run over by a car, soaked in petrol and burned.


https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/bosn ... her-murder

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/706 ... a-religion

http://pamelageller.com/2016/09/bosnian ... urka.html/

It is pathaetic to see that not just the common people (which on it's own is bad enough) but an entire media complex is persecuting (sadly, with success) a person for telling their opinion.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:44 am

I can imagine exactly the same reaction here in the states to such a statement.

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Postby Implacable Death » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:46 am

It's the same with anything anti-islamic. You're called a racist, deplorable, fascist, xenophobe, SS member, and so on. Really, it's nothing new at all. Even if your critique is well founded (islam's positioning of women in society, for instance, or the slave trade that continues to this very day in islamic countries in Africa and the Arabian world) you will get chewed out as if you are mere moments away from grabbing the reins of an industrial nation and instituting a final solution. Sigh.
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Postby Novoslaviensko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:50 am

Khadgar wrote:I can imagine exactly the same reaction here in the states to such a statement.


True, overly zealous populations will feel threatened if a single person expresses an opionion contrary to theirs, they will see it as a full blown "war" against them. In the US, some zealots will see the very existance of atheists as a war against christians, while, as I recall, the discrimination against atheists there is such that they can't hold office in several states...

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Bully gets bullied by a bunch of bullies. Everyone involved needs a good slap on the wrist.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:51 am

So is there anything here aside from "why aren't you treating Islam as the evilest thing in history?"
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Postby Dalviric UIA » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:51 am

Philjia wrote:Bully gets bullied by a bunch of bullies. Everyone involved needs a good slap on the wrist.

I'll get the soap.
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Philjia wrote:Bully gets bullied by a bunch of bullies. Everyone involved needs a good slap on the wrist.


"Bully"

A woman expressing her personal opinion over her private account is equal to several people threatening to rape her, drive her over, kill her, and even rape her with barb wire, along with several media outlets (controlled by the same people) also taking part in assaulting her?

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Novoslaviensko wrote:
Philjia wrote:Bully gets bullied by a bunch of bullies. Everyone involved needs a good slap on the wrist.


"Bully"

A woman expressing her personal opinion over her private account is equal to several people threatening to rape her, drive her over, kill her, and even rape her with barb wire, along with several media outlets (controlled by the same people) also taking part in assaulting her?

'Course she is.
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Vassenor wrote:So is there anything here aside from "why aren't you treating Islam as the evilest thing in history?"


Reductio ad absurdum. You are missing the point, it is about how, in general, uneducated religious masses tend to be chauvinistic, this is a trait especially prevalent in islam sadly.

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Novoslaviensko wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So is there anything here aside from "why aren't you treating Islam as the evilest thing in history?"


Reductio ad absurdum. You are missing the point, it is about how, in general, uneducated religious masses tend to be chauvinistic, this is a trait especially prevalent in islam sadly.


So if it's a problem with all religions, where is the howling indignation whenever Christians do reprehensible things?
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Postby Philjia » Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:57 am

Novoslaviensko wrote:
Philjia wrote:Bully gets bullied by a bunch of bullies. Everyone involved needs a good slap on the wrist.


"Bully"

A woman expressing her personal opinion over her private account is equal to several people threatening to rape her, drive her over, kill her, and even rape her with barb wire, along with several media outlets (controlled by the same people) also taking part in assaulting her?


She didn't deserve the abuse. Nobody deserves abuse on that level. This does not detract from the fact that her statements were stupid and unpleasant.
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Vassenor wrote:
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Reductio ad absurdum. You are missing the point, it is about how, in general, uneducated religious masses tend to be chauvinistic, this is a trait especially prevalent in islam sadly.


So if it's a problem with all religions, where is the howling indignation whenever Christians do reprehensible things?


Why don't you go to a thread about a black person being shot by the police and write: "So if it's a problem with all police, where is the howling indignation whenever a white person is shot?"

Things like these need to be covered, that being said tho, the last comparison might not be that fitting. You will recieve far less problems with being an atheist in majority christian nations than in muslim ones. For all I know, no christian nation lashes you for disbelief. Of course, I am not defending christianity as a whole, am just saying christian populations are more tolerant of it.

All in all, criticism against islam is far worse recieved than the one against christianity.

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Postby Novoslaviensko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:03 am

Philjia wrote:
Novoslaviensko wrote:
"Bully"

A woman expressing her personal opinion over her private account is equal to several people threatening to rape her, drive her over, kill her, and even rape her with barb wire, along with several media outlets (controlled by the same people) also taking part in assaulting her?


She didn't deserve the abuse. Nobody deserves abuse on that level. This does not detract from the fact that her statements were stupid and unpleasant.


Sad as it is, stubidity is not illegal, and besides, all of life is unpleasant at moments, you can not evade from it. People have the right to express their thought as long as it isn't proper hate speech (ie. calls for extermination or whatever).

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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:05 am

So by extension a crucifix is like a nipple clamp?
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Frank Zipper wrote:So by extension a crucifix is like a nipple clamp?


Pretty much.
Those are private things to be kept at home or not exposed.

All tho, technically, a crucifix is less visiable and provocative as a head covering (the size ratio being 1:1000 or far more)

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Postby Implacable Death » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:19 am

Vassenor wrote:
Novoslaviensko wrote:
Reductio ad absurdum. You are missing the point, it is about how, in general, uneducated religious masses tend to be chauvinistic, this is a trait especially prevalent in islam sadly.


So if it's a problem with all religions, where is the howling indignation whenever Christians do reprehensible things?


You must have missed the shitstorm that broke out over Kony, who is a Christian. Or over the Westboro Baptist Church.
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Postby Jumhuriyah Hindustan » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:23 am

What's a jurnalist? Something related to a jury, I presume?
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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:23 am

"Man, atheists are just a bunch of cock suckers that will burn in Hell, right?

Wow man, why are you mad? I'm just expressing my opinion"

I guess that's what it's like to call a burqa a "Strap-on"
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Postby Novoslaviensko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:24 am

Implacable Death wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So if it's a problem with all religions, where is the howling indignation whenever Christians do reprehensible things?


You must have missed the shitstorm that broke out over Kony, who is a Christian. Or over the Westboro Baptist Church.


Kony was a genocidal maniac using childsoldiers and the WBC is such that the KKK had to highlight that they opposse them.
The "doing of reprehenisble things" from the side of Christians in this context was propably meant in the volume as the muslim media and uneducated folk reacted in this case, that is, negative outlash of Christians against someone criticising them.

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Postby Community Values » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:24 am

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:What's a jurnalist? Something related to a jury, I presume?


It's when you don't get mad due to another person's spelling or grammar, and instead focus on the topic that it addresses.
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Postby Novoslaviensko » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:29 am

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:What's a jurnalist? Something related to a jury, I presume?


Oh no, I left out a letter, please don't take me to grammar Dachau...

Community Values wrote:"Man, atheists are just a bunch of cock suckers that will burn in Hell, right?

Wow man, why are you mad? I'm just expressing my opinion"

I guess that's what it's like to call a burqa a "Strap-on"


Ah yes, saying that a person will spend eternity in agony and endless pain (ie. claiming them to be as evil as rapists, murderers etc) is equal to comparing one object to another. Great.

Besides, islam does not dictate the burqa, the burqa is an element worn by those who spread foreign savage culture as well as being directly linked to extremism (not to forget that a burqa is an immense security issue).

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:30 am

Community Values wrote:"Man, atheists are just a bunch of cock suckers that will burn in Hell, right?

Wow man, why are you mad? I'm just expressing my opinion"

I guess that's what it's like to call a burqa a "Strap-on"


Except there is no comparison being made in your example. Try again.
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EDIT: Wrong thread, oops.
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Postby Auristania » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:32 am

Philjia wrote:
Novoslaviensko wrote:
"Bully"

A woman expressing her personal opinion over her private account is equal to several people threatening to rape her, drive her over, kill her, and even rape her with barb wire, along with several media outlets (controlled by the same people) also taking part in assaulting her?


She didn't deserve the abuse. Nobody deserves abuse on that level. This does not detract from the fact that her statements were stupid and unpleasant.

She says Sharia is stupid and evil and the Shariahists want to rape her with barbed wire. Ipso facto, she has proven that Sharia is stupid and evil.

During Danish cartoon Fatwah, there was a poster "Death to those who say Islam is violent."

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