Why bring a child into our world, when it going to be worse?

[Southeastern Xiatao]

Let me rephrase this.

Why bring a child or children into this world when everything is so horrible in some or most places. Why bring children into this world, when things in the future are going to be very bad.

For instance (Whether you believe in this or not, or care or not), with things like climate change/global warming happening and the sea level eventually rising flooding coastal cities and islands (like oh yeah the Pacific Islands and the Maldives), and with that happening with ice melting into the sea, that could mess up the ocean currents and perhaps trigger a small or big new ice age. Like think about if massive amounts of ice melts from Greenland and goes into the Atlantic, that could fucking screw up the Gulf Stream and make Europe colder.

Also things like droughts, famines, and desertification happening, sad to say that many countries like the Middle East, North Africa, and even sadly Australia (since most of it almost covered in a desert), is just going to get more droughts and famines due to expanding deserts.

Why bring a child into this world when for instances wars are happening and might happen anywhere, and when worse of all... Nobody or not everyone wants war and yet most people die for that, including children... And speaking of war, why would someone want to bring a child or children into this world when World War III could happen any day, whether if it is today, tomorrow, weeks from now, a month, or a year. World War III can happen at anytime unexpected and it doesn't matter who or what or how or why it started, in the end more innocents are going to end up dead anyway...

As much as this may sound very nihilist, it really does bring a point. Or better yet instead of procreating why not instead adopt children, or better yet, why not adopt children from third-world countries.

Because to be fair, bringing a child into this world at this point of time (SURE you all can say, "every time in human history was horrible, and people had children regardless)? I mean for all we know humanity could destroy itself at anytime and so it would be fucking pointless to bring a child into this world.

Idiotic or uncivilized comments will be ignored. Doesn't matter if it is from the left side or the right side of the political spectrum.

[Celistiant]

Well... it's either give up, and let all the word's problems (political or otherwise) get worse.
Or have babies and try to have a new generation fix the problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham%27s_law#Application dictates Bads drive out Goods, so having Goods needs to be a standard.
People slacking off and letting Bads just take over and autopilot the future is want got things as they are now.

So either try to fix things, or things Will get worse, with or without your help.

[Thalasus]

"Things are bad, so lets start killing off humanity by refusing to reproduce."
What

[Valrifell]

Because you can't really conclude it's going to be any worse because linear trends and projections don't really apply in the real world?

[Taburstan]

Why bother raising the third-world child if everybodies going to die anyway.

[Benuty]

Because humans tend to think on the small scale unless serious effort is put forth for a global view?

[Giovenith]

People in struggling countries often have children for the sake of helping financially support the family by having more people working.

[New Axiom]

Why have sex of your partner can be a dick (no pun intended) and charge rape just to be a dick?

Why drive a car when the engine can explode, or get hit by another car?

Why be a soldier if your probably gonna get shot?

Why be a pilot if you might get hijacked, or the plane might crash becuase of engine failure?

Why see the world if you might pick up zika or Ebola or something just as scary sounding?

Why cut lunch meat if you might cut off your finger?

Why play grand theft auto V even though your Xbox has a slight chance of catching on fire?

[Benuty]

"Things are bad, so lets start killing off humanity by refusing to reproduce."
What

Someone could manufacture a sterility plague. So yes it could be worse.

[Lychgate]

"I'm not exactly sure if the future is going to be okay, so I'll jump up and say that the only solution is to stop procreation because...something bad might happen and its not fair to all those children to raise them in an age where something bad might happen."

Throughout history there has always been a chance of something catastrophic happening. Just because the odds are now higher and/or the possible destruction is greater doesn't mean that having a kid is a disservice to all of humankind.


How does ranting about all the possible bad things that can happen somehow bring a point to prove your point that abstinence is the only solution?

Also, the Middle East and North Africa aren't countries...

[Socialist Nordia]

"Things are bad, so lets start killing off humanity by refusing to reproduce."
What

Someone could manufacture a sterility plague. So yes it could be worse.

I wonder who that someone would be...

[New Axiom]

Someone could manufacture a sterility plague. So yes it could be worse.

I wonder who that someone would be...

Trump.

[Benuty]

Someone could manufacture a sterility plague. So yes it could be worse.

I wonder who that someone would be...

I am doing a mercy you should be thankful. Your kind doesn't know the horror that awaits in the final battle.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Are you going through a dark existential crisis or domething, OP? This is the second doom and gloom thrrad you've started in less than 2 days.

[Greed and Death]

Because my kid has the best available education and trust funds. He will be able to live a more comfortable life even if the world gets better.

[Valaran]

Why bring a child into this world when for instances wars are happening and might happen anywhere, and when worse of all... Nobody or not everyone wants war and yet most people die for that, including children... And speaking of war, why would someone want to bring a child or children into this world when World War III could happen any day, whether if it is today, tomorrow, weeks from now, a month, or a year. World War III can happen at anytime unexpected and it doesn't matter who or what or how or why it started, in the end more innocents are going to end up dead anyway...

A war is very unlikely to happen where I live or plan to live, and the possibility of WWWIII is remote. Moreover, should nuclear armageddon occur, there is nothing I can do about it, so I might as well carry on with the assumption that it won't happen. No point living in fear and constricting your life about something you can't control.

Thus, these aren't espcially compelling reasons for me not to want children.

[USS Monitor]

Back in my day there was this thing called the War Between the States and a lot of people didn't even live to adulthood, even in peacetime, because of all the crappy medical care.

What exactly is the next generation going to face that is going to be worse than living through the Civil War with Civil War medicine?

[Greed and Death]

Back in my day there was this thing called the War Between the States and a lot of people didn't even live to adulthood, even in peacetime, because of all the crappy medical care.

What exactly is the next generation going to face that is going to be worse than living through the Civil War with Civil War medicine?

President Trump outlawed antibiotics and pain killers except for the 1%.

[Thalasus]

To give a more serious answer than "???", I'll post some nice idealism to brighten your day.

Life is worth preserving and continuing. There's a reason people like seeing children and are willing to go to great lengths to protect them, and it isn't just an evolutionary habit. Not only is bringing life into this world it's own little miracle, it makes sense from a cold practical point of view. Your kid could grow up to be a scientific genius that helps solve the technological secret to a world crisis. Your kid could grow up to be a military commander that saves the world from tyranny and horror. Your kid could grow up to be a world leader who helps to establish a better world. Even if you ignore the possibility that your kid could be a hero (admittedly, those odds are small), it is very realistic that your kid could help the world in some way: he could be a military official who's participation helps stop a terrorist attack, he could be a scientist or businessman who's contributions help make the world better, and he could be among the many colonists who could leave Earth if it came to that. One way or another, your child would have an impact on the future, and if you raised him/her right, it could be a very good one.

The thing children ultimately represent is hope. If you decide to give up on bringing children into the world solely because of how bad things are now and how bad they may become in the future, ultimately you are giving up any sort of hope that anything could ever get better. Hope is always something worth holding onto.

[Community Values]

Why do we do anything, when we know that things are going to get worse, and eventually we are going to die alone, with no friends?

Because not everyone is this pessimistic to think the world is "going to get a lot worse"

[PaNTuXIa]

Because "muh family values."

[Free Missouri]

"Things are bad, so lets start killing off humanity by refusing to reproduce."
What

Someone could manufacture a sterility plague. So yes it could be worse.

fucking salarians.

[Salus Maior]

Why bring a child into this world when for instances wars are happening and might happen anywhere, and when worse of all... Nobody or not everyone wants war and yet most people die for that, including children... And speaking of war, why would someone want to bring a child or children into this world when World War III could happen any day, whether if it is today, tomorrow, weeks from now, a month, or a year. World War III can happen at anytime unexpected and it doesn't matter who or what or how or why it started, in the end more innocents are going to end up dead anyway...

Because to be fair, bringing a child into this world at this point of time (SURE you all can say, "every time in human history was horrible, and people had children regardless)? I mean for all we know humanity could destroy itself at anytime and so it would be fucking pointless to bring a child into this world.

That's needless fear-mongering.

Wars haven't stopped happening since the dawn of civilization, and the world has endured a lot of climate change through the centuries. It sounds like you just want the world to be perfect for future generations and that's just not a possibility. We live in a flawed world full of flawed human beings, we can't just give up on our species just because the future looks bleak (Hell, at least we're not expecting world-wide nuclear holocaust any day like our parents did at the height of the Cold War).

Hell, humanity has had plenty of chances to screw itself over into extinction before this point, and we endured. I expect the same in the future.

[Ethel mermania]

Because the OP is a steaming pile of shit. (The post, not the poster).

There is more oppertunity now for more people than ever before, people Really living longer happier lives, more college degrees are earned than ever before. More scientific achievements are happening now than ever, and personal freedom is better than ever.

If the OP (poster), thinks life sucks now he should have tried being alive 300 years ago.

[Aelex]

Yeah, no. The world is definitely less shitty today than it was one century ago and it's also definitely going to continue to become better, at least in the West, as science continue to progress. If anything, as someone who LOVE children, that just make me want to have kids even more.
Also, about your second point, I'm wondering why would one want to raise a child that's not his own when they are very well able to procreate themselves? That's something I've never been able to understand.