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French Church Attack: Priest Dead, IS Responsible

Postby Aemen » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:04 am

A priest has been killed in an attack by two armed men at his church in a suburb of Rouen in northern France.

The attackers entered the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray during Mass, taking the priest, Fr Jacques Hamel, 84, and four other people hostage.

Police later surrounded the church and French TV said shots were fired. Both hostage-takers are now dead. President Francois Hollande said the men claimed to be from so-called Islamic State (IS).

Speaking in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, he said the attackers had committed a "cowardly assassination" and France would fight IS "by all means". The IS-linked Amaq news agency said "two soldiers of the Islamic State" had carried out the attack.

Pope Francis decried the "pain and horror of this absurd violence".

French interior ministry spokesman, Pierre-Henri Brandet, said one of the hostages had been critically wounded. He said the hostage-takers had been "neutralised" after coming out of the church. Police were now searching the church for explosives. Police sources said it appeared the attackers had slit the priest's throat with a knife.

The area has been cordoned off and police have told people to stay away. Mr Brandet said the investigation into the incident would be led by anti-terrorism prosecutors. One of the men was known to the French intelligence services, French TV channel M6 has reported.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has expressed his horror at the "barbaric attack"

"The whole of France and all Catholics are wounded. We will stand together," he wrote on Twitter.

The Archbishop of Rouen, Dominique Lebrun, who was attending a Catholic gathering in Poland, said: "I cry out to God with all men of goodwill. I would invite non-believers to join in the cry.
"The Catholic Church cannot take weapons other than those of prayer and brotherhood among men."


Read the rest here.

Apologies if this is being discussed elsewhere, I couldn't see anything related after a quick search.

So it's another day, another awful and vile attack that claimed the life of an innocent man getting on with his job. It's worrying to see this sort of spike in terrorist activity around western Europe as well as the knock on effect it's going to have with the popularity of far-right movements. I expect the National Front will be able to point at July 2016 at the French presidential elections next year and wave it around like some proud justification that they were right all along.

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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:05 am

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:06 am

I don't even know what to say anymore.
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Postby Vlamistaatti » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:08 am

Note to self, carry a hidden weapon if or when visiting France/Germany.

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Postby Hesse Darmstadt » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:08 am

France I guess is the honorary Israel of Europe.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:08 am

Nariterrr wrote:Stop the world, I'm getting off.

Nope you are stuck in this ride with me, and the other immortals.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:09 am

Hesse Darmstadt wrote:France I guess is the honorary Israel of Europe.

Do not be silly Israel hasn't existed in quite some time.


More like France is the honorary France of Europe.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:12 am

Vlamistaatti wrote:Note to self, carry a hidden weapon if or when visiting France/Germany.

Might get shot by the police doing something like that.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vlamistaatti wrote:Note to self, carry a hidden weapon if or when visiting France/Germany.

Might get shot by the police doing something like that.

A great irony if anything.
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Postby Aelex » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:13 am

Putain de barbus de merde.
Once fucking more attack. This is just depressing and disgusting.
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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:14 am

Aelex wrote:Putain de barbus de merde.
Once fucking more attack. This is just depressing and disgusting.

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It is.
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Postby Dahon » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:15 am

I can see where this is going. One side will shout "To hell with immigrants!", the other will retort "To hell with YOU!!!".

Me? "Stop. Stop. Fuck it, stop. Enough. Fucking enough. ENOUGH!!!"
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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:16 am

Dahon wrote:I can see where this is going. One side will shout "To hell with immigrants!", the other will retort "To hell with YOU!!!".

Me? "Stop. Stop. Fuck it, stop. Enough. Fucking enough. ENOUGH!!!"

No matter how much we try, popularism is on the rise.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:16 am

Benuty wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Might get shot by the police doing something like that.

A great irony if anything.

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:16 am

Dahon wrote:I can see where this is going. One side will shout "To hell with immigrants!", the other will retort "To hell with YOU!!!".

Me? "Stop. Stop. Fuck it, stop. Enough. Fucking enough. ENOUGH!!!"

Complaining won't end it. You cannot just escape the horrors by wishing for them to stop.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:17 am

Dahon wrote:I can see where this is going. One side will shout "To hell with immigrants!", the other will retort "To hell with YOU!!!".

Me? "Stop. Stop. Fuck it, stop. Enough. Fucking enough. ENOUGH!!!"

No I refuse to stop since the internet wont.

Besides there is more than black, and white to this debate.
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Postby Xadufell » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:18 am

Aemen wrote:
A priest has been killed in an attack by two armed men at his church in a suburb of Rouen in northern France.

The attackers entered the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray during Mass, taking the priest, Fr Jacques Hamel, 84, and four other people hostage.

Police later surrounded the church and French TV said shots were fired. Both hostage-takers are now dead. President Francois Hollande said the men claimed to be from so-called Islamic State (IS).

Speaking in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, he said the attackers had committed a "cowardly assassination" and France would fight IS "by all means". The IS-linked Amaq news agency said "two soldiers of the Islamic State" had carried out the attack.

Pope Francis decried the "pain and horror of this absurd violence".

French interior ministry spokesman, Pierre-Henri Brandet, said one of the hostages had been critically wounded. He said the hostage-takers had been "neutralised" after coming out of the church. Police were now searching the church for explosives. Police sources said it appeared the attackers had slit the priest's throat with a knife.

The area has been cordoned off and police have told people to stay away. Mr Brandet said the investigation into the incident would be led by anti-terrorism prosecutors. One of the men was known to the French intelligence services, French TV channel M6 has reported.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has expressed his horror at the "barbaric attack"

"The whole of France and all Catholics are wounded. We will stand together," he wrote on Twitter.

The Archbishop of Rouen, Dominique Lebrun, who was attending a Catholic gathering in Poland, said: "I cry out to God with all men of goodwill. I would invite non-believers to join in the cry.
"The Catholic Church cannot take weapons other than those of prayer and brotherhood among men."


Read the rest here.

Apologies if this is being discussed elsewhere, I couldn't see anything related after a quick search.

So it's another day, another awful and vile attack that claimed the life of an innocent man getting on with his job. It's worrying to see this sort of spike in terrorist activity around western Europe as well as the knock on effect it's going to have with the popularity of far-right movements. I expect the National Front will be able to point at July 2016 at the French presidential elections next year and wave it around like some proud justification that they were right all along.


These fucking attacks are only going to keep happening if Europe doesn't start doing something.

For Christ's sake... These are going to happen every other day, it's going to be like Israel.
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Postby Vlamistaatti » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:18 am

Ifreann wrote:
Vlamistaatti wrote:Note to self, carry a hidden weapon if or when visiting France/Germany.

Might get shot by the police doing something like that.

As said, awfully ironic. :p

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:19 am

Xadufell wrote:
Aemen wrote:
A priest has been killed in an attack by two armed men at his church in a suburb of Rouen in northern France.

The attackers entered the church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray during Mass, taking the priest, Fr Jacques Hamel, 84, and four other people hostage.

Police later surrounded the church and French TV said shots were fired. Both hostage-takers are now dead. President Francois Hollande said the men claimed to be from so-called Islamic State (IS).

Speaking in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, he said the attackers had committed a "cowardly assassination" and France would fight IS "by all means". The IS-linked Amaq news agency said "two soldiers of the Islamic State" had carried out the attack.

Pope Francis decried the "pain and horror of this absurd violence".

French interior ministry spokesman, Pierre-Henri Brandet, said one of the hostages had been critically wounded. He said the hostage-takers had been "neutralised" after coming out of the church. Police were now searching the church for explosives. Police sources said it appeared the attackers had slit the priest's throat with a knife.

The area has been cordoned off and police have told people to stay away. Mr Brandet said the investigation into the incident would be led by anti-terrorism prosecutors. One of the men was known to the French intelligence services, French TV channel M6 has reported.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls has expressed his horror at the "barbaric attack"

"The whole of France and all Catholics are wounded. We will stand together," he wrote on Twitter.

The Archbishop of Rouen, Dominique Lebrun, who was attending a Catholic gathering in Poland, said: "I cry out to God with all men of goodwill. I would invite non-believers to join in the cry.
"The Catholic Church cannot take weapons other than those of prayer and brotherhood among men."


Read the rest here.

Apologies if this is being discussed elsewhere, I couldn't see anything related after a quick search.

So it's another day, another awful and vile attack that claimed the life of an innocent man getting on with his job. It's worrying to see this sort of spike in terrorist activity around western Europe as well as the knock on effect it's going to have with the popularity of far-right movements. I expect the National Front will be able to point at July 2016 at the French presidential elections next year and wave it around like some proud justification that they were right all along.


These fucking attacks are only going to keep happening if Europe doesn't start doing something.

For Christ's sake... These are going to happen every other day, it's going to be like Israel.


Now the Hebrew State actually has some competent defenses to be honest.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:20 am

Are people calling for ethnic cleansing yet?
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:21 am

Well this kind of news has definitely lost it's shock factor, for me at least. Eventually I assume these attacks won't be noticeable enough to make the Breaking News.

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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:21 am

Vassenor wrote:Are people calling for ethnic cleansing yet?

Just look at twitter.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:21 am

Vassenor wrote:Are people calling for ethnic cleansing yet?

Humanity has always called for ethnic cleansing.
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Postby Dahon » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:21 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:
Dahon wrote:I can see where this is going. One side will shout "To hell with immigrants!", the other will retort "To hell with YOU!!!".

Me? "Stop. Stop. Fuck it, stop. Enough. Fucking enough. ENOUGH!!!"

Complaining won't end it. You cannot just escape the horrors by wishing for them to stop.


I'm not only really complaining at this point -- I'm pleading to God, to Allah, to the gods, to anyone, anywhere, please stop this madness before people lose their fucking minds and commit the indefensible in the name of defending what they hold dear to the exclusion and expulsion of every fucking else.
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:22 am

Sad news about another attack. My sympathies too the relatives and friends of those killed.

Looking forward to the day when this barbaric force of reactionary, theocratic Jihadism as represented by Islamic State is utterly destroyed, I think IS's days are numbered, I hope it comes soon.


But I do think we need to have a discussion about the role of faith and religion in these atrocities.
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