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Jolthig
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Secret Police In Your Nation?

Postby Jolthig » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:05 am

Does your nation have secret police?

If so, whom do they go after?

In the Federative State of Jolthig, the Secret Police tends to go after whomever speaks out against the government. Especially after a violent protest in the capital of Lafida.
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Ceolophysia
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Postby Ceolophysia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:09 am

Yes there are "secret police".
The secret police go after socialists and radical fascists.
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Pallacia
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Postby Pallacia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:11 am

"In Pallacia, the Shadows take care of those most intolerable criminals and the few rebels that are able to survive with a more or less wholesome mind despite a life of addiction to Rotten Blood. The fact that the Shadows are essentially reanimated corpses possessed by patriotic spirits, or spraghs, only adds to their cunning and fierceness." - the Scholarly Protector.
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Lupolska
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Postby Lupolska » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:18 am

Jolthig wrote:Does your nation have secret police?

If so, whom do they go after?

In the Federative State of Jolthig, the Secret Police tends to go after whomever speaks out against the government. Especially after a violent protest in the capital of Lafida.


No, we have no secret police.

None.

Meaning that there is no one monitoring what my citizens do at all.

And there is most certainly no one who records the actions of individuals and then abducts them at precisely 2:07 AM and takes them to a room in the basement of the police building for a secret trial with no jury in which the punishment is water torture and then deportation to alpine prison camps.

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Imperium Sidhicum
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:08 am

The Imperium's equivalent of a secret police is Domestic Security - which isn't really that secret, being a rather visible paramilitary police force.

DomSec is tasked with operating the mass surveillance network throughout the Imperium, running correctional facilities, and prosecuting high crimes Imperium-wide. Unlike Urban Security forces, which only have authority in their respective jurisdictions, Domestic Security has unlimited Jurisdiction throughout the Imperium.

Among the areas of focus for Domestic Security are political crimes - sedition, promotion of un-Sidh views and ideas, and other subversive activities.

Despite having a reputation of ruthlesness, Domestic Security mostly handles cases of political dissent in a rather civil, even dull, manner. A suspected dissident is summoned to the local precinct to explain his certain actions or remarks, explained why such thoughts or deeds are undesirable to society, and kindly asked to refrain from such words or actions in the future. In most cases, that is more than enough to convince would-be heretics to fall back in line with the official view - few are stubborn, brave or just plain stupid enough to test the patience of Domestic Security after their first warning.

As an organization, Domestic Security is in fact keenly interested in reforming rather than destroying dissenters, labour camps and executions being reserved for the most stubborn and unrepentant subversives. Most others can be cowed into obedience in a much more civil manner - if persuasion alone doesn't convince a dissenter to reform and renounce his heresies, then blackmail most often will. Keeping extensive records on every citizen, Domestic Security usually has enough dirt on most subversives to shut them up.
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Finaglia
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Postby Finaglia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:39 am

Jolthig wrote:Does your nation have secret police?

If so, whom do they go after?

In the Federative State of Jolthig, the Secret Police tends to go after whomever speaks out against the government. Especially after a violent protest in the capital of Lafida.

Finaglia does not like the term Secret Police. We prefer the term Internal Affairs. This of course under the Department of Homeland Security. We must save the proletariat from degenerative bourgeoisie practices. All agencies go after these subversives.

Bureau 1 deals with infiltrating and protecting the local Police forces from subversives with appropriate surveillance measures as needed.
Bureau 13 seeks out foreign spies where ever they may be found within Finaglia.
Bureau 86 deals with infiltrating and protecting the local government Administration (other than police) from subversives with appropriate surveillance measures as needed.
Bureau 369 deals with infiltrating and protecting the Educators at all levels from subversives with appropriate surveillance measures as needed.
We have as many bureaus as there are organizations to protect.
As of this date we have 462 active Bureaus.

Bureau X is the surveillance system that infiltrates and protects the other bureaus.
Bureau 0 is the surveillance system that infiltrates and protects Bureau X from subversives.
and
Bureau Z is infiltrates and protects Bureau 0 the very Politburo itself.

This helps make the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of Finaglia the most secure and productive Workers Paradise imaginable.
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Estalusia
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Postby Estalusia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:27 pm

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Queen Yuno
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Postby Queen Yuno » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:40 pm

Everyone is each other's secret police..
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Chadtonia
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Postby Chadtonia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:45 pm

Chadtonia hasn't had any secret police since 2010. This year 2017 The Federal Council signed an Act prohibiting the government from creating a secret police force for a.minimum of at least 10 years.

Also, the Department of Diplomatic Endeavors For Chadtonia does hire private detectives from time to time, but these are not working directly for the government and are not a division of the Department.
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South Aztlan
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Postby South Aztlan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:49 pm

Jolthig wrote:Does your nation have secret police?

If so, whom do they go after?

In the Federative State of Jolthig, the Secret Police tends to go after whomever speaks out against the government. Especially after a violent protest in the capital of Lafida.

In the Galactic Empire of South Aztlan, the Shadow Guard, who are tasked with eliminating those that oppose the government.
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Jersey Republic
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Postby Jersey Republic » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:51 pm

No, because we don't need any

Everyone in jersey pretty cool with each other
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Vallermoore
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Postby Vallermoore » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:55 pm

No, although we do have a secret service and in a dire emergency they can arrest people-however they must hand them over to the police and the law courts as soon as possible.

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Aterria
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Postby Aterria » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:51 pm

The old Internal Security was technically banned in 1985, although officers still go around. These days though, they are simply investigators.
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Eahland
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Libertarian Police State

Postby Eahland » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:26 pm

To quote myself in a thread from less than a month ago:
Eahland wrote:We do not now have nor have we ever had secret police. Keeping your actions secret is only needful when your actions are shameful.
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Impireacht
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Postby Impireacht » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:22 pm

Of course we don't, that's corrupt and goes against our values!"
OOC: Of course we do. Any government that says they don't is a disgusting love-fest doomed to meet a gruesome end or they're lying. The secret security services remove undesirables quietly and stealthily, and thanks to this we have far less "civil rights issues" than other nations. Nobody's found it curious that every time somebody prominent starts promoting "rights" not supported by the nation, that person "dies of natural causes" or "abandons the cause" soon after.

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The United Lands of Ash
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Postby The United Lands of Ash » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:26 pm

Yes, we have the MoI (Ministry of Information) which was founded right after the Revolution, disbanded after the attempted coup with the Ministry of Morale, permanently disbanded, then reformed after the upper staff was taken out.

They only go after [REDACTED BY ORDER OF THE MOI] and operate [REDACTED BY ORDER OF THE MOI].
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United Eurasian Socialist States
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Postby United Eurasian Socialist States » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:28 pm

Of course, the secret police are needed to keep counterrevolutionaries from overthrowing our system. They don't know what true communism is.*
*they actually most likely do and that's why we hunt them down and destroy them
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Cuprum
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Postby Cuprum » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:28 pm

We don't know, it's secret after all.

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Theodosiya
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Postby Theodosiya » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:29 pm

Not really a Secret Police, but the Police did have an intelligence and special operation body. Most of the time, they deal with terrorist, though. They worked together with armed force and state intelligence body.
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The Pacifican Islands
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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:39 pm

In Pacifica, the closest is a government organization only known as Sector 31. A offshoot of the Department of Defense, the Department for National Security, has a largely unknown offshoot, the Department for Internal Affairs. Buried in the dozens of fake organizations lies Sector 31. Sector 31 is rumoured to have a office building somewhere in Pearl City, disguised as a normal office building. It is also rumoured to have many "special purpose" ships, supposedly warships and command centres disguised as normal civilian ships. Many stories surround the operations of the organization, such as that they silence people against the government, or even that they have a alien research bureau. Hundreds of conspiracies come out every day, and most of them are fake, but a surefire way to tell the real and the fake ones apart, is that the authors of the real ones never log in to their accounts any more...

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The Althing Confederacy
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Postby The Althing Confederacy » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:41 pm

The Althing have no secret police, as the government and its regular police act openly

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Postby Crysuko » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:45 pm

there are "acquisition teams" run by MRS4, designed to make people stirring up ideas opposed to the government and other trouble vanish.
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Praetorianus
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Postby Praetorianus » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:10 pm

Does your nation have secret police?
Yes; any powerful nation has secret police.
Ours is the Milites ex Occulto Foederati Imperium et Securitatem Opus Pro Habenae (MOFISOPH) or just Moffs.


If so, whom do they go after?
Governmental enemies, atheists, Muslims, opposition, communists, democrats, liberals, and homosexuals (because by law, they're banned).
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:21 pm

We do not have a secret police and have no reason to establish one.
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Dushan
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Postby Dushan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:27 pm

Does your nation have secret police?

Yes. Actually a few, very small in size but very effectively. They're efficient, discreet and ruthless.

They're only answering the Head of Government (Usually the Prime Minister, currently the Royal Council) and the Regency.

In its own definition the Secret Police is not Shield and Sword but the Dagger of the Crown not used for widespread oppression, intimidation or torture but a discreet way to deal with hostile Elements who cannot be convinced or neutralized otherwise.

The Secret Police is deliberatly kept small in size as their objective is to deal with Enemies of the State and not going after the general Population.

They're doing the dirty, unfortunate but necessary work.

If so, whom do they go after?

Their main Target are People who pose a iminent danger to the State and Nation. This includes naturally Terrorists, militant oppositionals, activists and other aggressive troublemakers.

It should be noted though that the Principality prefers other methods to deal with hostile elements.
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